CLASSIFICATION
    
      
Swallow ID:
      
        8334
      
    
  
    
Partner Institution:
    
        University of Calgary
    
  
  
    
Source Collection Title:
    
      Robert Kroetsch fonds
    
  
     
     
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Source Collection Contributing Unit:
     
           University of Calgary, Archives and Special Collections
     
   
     
     
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  ITEM DESCRIPTION
  
    
Title:
    
      Narrative Traces: Talking with Robert Kroetsch
    
  
  
    
Title Source:
    
      Transcribed from the artifact
    
  
  
    
Language:
    
      English
    
  
  
    
Production Context:
    
      Studio recording
    
  
  
  
    
Identifiers:
    
      [29.2]
    
  
  
  Rights
  
    
Rights:
    
      In Copyright (InC)
    
  
  
    
Notes:
    
      Enters Public Domain at the end of 2037
    
  
  
  CREATORS
  
    
Name:
    
      Kroetsch, Robert
    
  
  
    
Dates:
    
      1927-2011
    
  
  
    
  CONTRIBUTORS
    
      
Name:
      
        Edwards, Brian
      
    
      
    
  MATERIAL DESCRIPTION
    
      
Recording Type:
      
        Analogue
      
    
    
      
AV Type:
      
        Audio
      
    
    
      
Material Designation:
      
        Cassette
      
    
    
      
Physical Composition:
      
        Magnetic Tape
      
    
    
      
Extent:
      
        1/8 inch
      
    
    
      
Side:
      
        A and B
      
    
    
      
Tape Brand:
      
        Unknown acetate
      
    
    
      
Sound Quality:
      
        Excellent
      
    
    
      
Physical Condition:
      
        Good
      
    
    
      
Other Physical Description:
      
        Very clear, studio recorded. Background conversation at 46:03.
      
    
    
  DIGITAL FILE DESCRIPTION
    
      
Duration:
      
        T00:47:25
      
    
    
      
Size:
      
        781.34 MB
      
    
    
  Dates
    
      
Date:
      
        1995
      
    
    
      
Type:
      
        Performance Date
      
    
    
      
Notes:
      
        Dates taken from item.
      
    
    
  LOCATION
    
      
Address:
      
        Deakin University Open Campus Program
      
    
    
      
Venue:
      
        University of Calgary Studio, Calgary, Canada
      
    
    
  CONTENT
    
      
Contents:
      
        Robert Kroetsch and Brian Edwards
[00:00:01] 
Discuss What the Crow Said (General Publishing, 1978) [as part of a course “Literary Processes” through Deakin University].
Robert Kroetsch
[00:28:55]
Mentions "Spending the Morning on the Beach". 
Robert Kroetsch  
[00:42:00]
Reads "What the Crow Said".
      
    
  
    
Notes:
    
      - Part of a course entitled “Literary Processes” through Deakin University.
- Discussion of Robert Kroetsch’s recent work. Crow served as inspiration during difficult writing period. Robert Kroetsch prefers magic realism instead of documentary style, finds documentary unnatural to him “because I don’t believe documents are documents, that they themselves are another version of unreality or imagination if you will.” Versions of narrative operating through time, recovery of intermingling voices.
- Stories of family are important, especially relationships with uncles and aunts because there is a necessary closeness and separation (don’t have the binding structures found with parents).
- Creative strategies: resisting authorized versions of Alberta (historical, political), recovering personal experience but mediated by words (oral tradition). A few words recover an entire narrative pattern.
- Interruption and intervention: question of “what is a reader?” The reader has enormous body of narrative in their head which can be tapped into by process of intervention.
- Influences: earlier texts use myths/stories. In Crow, attempt to let multiple narratives speak at once without privileging one. i.e. the perception of crows as negative in Western world, but is a smart, positive, trickster figure in Indigenous epistemologies.
- Story doesn’t exist until it is in the reader’s mind? Robert Kroetsch has abandoned romantic notion of the writer/artist. Meta-textualism. 
- Brian: post-modern privileges the reader, reader is invited into the text. Robert Kroetsch: It is difficult and dangerous to be the reader, because reading is no longer a controlled experience, but allows for the reader to explore. There is a sense of play or discovery.
- Structuring narrative through love and death. Behind comedy there is a notion of great mystery.
- Plays with the stereotype of active male and passive female
- The responsibilities of the writer, reader, and critic: It is a gift exchange that goes both ways between reader and writer. The critic extends the reading. Brian: Notion of ideal reading assumes ideal reader. Robert Kroetsch: agrees and resists the ideal reading, through the gift exchange has surrendered himself to the reader. There is no ideal context for reading.
- Robert Kroetsch writes poetry by resisting poetry. Deprivileging the word and the role of the writer. An interest in language. Poetry is concerned with more than words (he compares this to prose). It is not because of the high rhetoric, but the greater ability to focus on the language.
- What parts of Crow are distinctly Canadian? Recovering the vitality of the local; skepticism of the “universal.”
    
  
  
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  RELATED WORKS
    
      
Citation:
      
        Kroetsch, What the Crow Said (1978)