CLASSIFICATION
Swallow ID:
8378
Partner Institution:
University of Calgary
Source Collection Title:
Robert Kroetsch fonds
Source Collection ID:
Source Collection Contributing Unit:
University of Calgary, Archives and Special Collections
Source Collection URI:
Source Collection Image URL:
ITEM DESCRIPTION
Title:
Fine Lines #87, Robert Kroetsch interviews Dennis Cooley
Title Source:
Transcribed from the artifact
Title Note:
Fine Lines program, listing contents of recording.
Language:
English
Production Context:
Broadcast
Identifiers:
[29.12]
Rights
Rights:
In Copyright (InC)
Notes:
Enters Public Domain at the end of 2052
CREATORS
Name:
Kroetsch, Robert
Dates:
1927-2011
CONTRIBUTORS
Name:
Cooley, Dennis
Dates:
-1944
MATERIAL DESCRIPTION
Recording Type:
Analogue
AV Type:
Audio
Material Designation:
Cassette
Physical Composition:
Magnetic Tape
Extent:
1/8 inch
Side:
A and B
Tape Brand:
Unknown acetate
Sound Quality:
Good
Physical Condition:
Good
DIGITAL FILE DESCRIPTION
Duration:
T01:02:49
Size:
1.01 GB
Dates
Date:
2002
Type:
Performance Date
Notes:
Dates supplied through research for copyright.
LOCATION
Address:
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Venue:
CFUV Radio, University of Victoria
CONTENT
Contents:
Jim Andrews
[00:00:00]
Introduces Robert Kroetsch and Dennis Cooley.
Robert Kroetsch
[00:04:08]
Begins Interview with and Dennis Cooley.
Dennis Cooley
[00:06:00]
Reads "Making Up" from Bloody Jack.
Dennis Cooley
[00:10:25]
Reads "You With the Stars in Your Eyes".
Dennis Cooley
[00:12:33]
Reads "Strobic Flies".
Dennis Cooley
[00:21:55]
Reads "A Curse on a Critic".
Dennis Cooley
[00:25:57]
END Side 1
Jim Andrews and second side.
Jim Andrews
[00:27:30]
Reads "Vernacular Muse".
Robert Kroetsch
[00:33:35]
Resumes interview.
Dennis Cooley
[00:35:36]
Reads "Sonia Orlauski".
Dennis Cooley
[00:44:15]
Reads "The Muse of Absence".
Notes:
- Introduction of Robert Kroetsch and Cooley by Jim Andrews.
- Discussion of his article “The Vernacular Muse.”
- Reading of “Making Up” from Bloody Jack to use as an argument in relation to “Vernacular.” The centrality of pun.
- Erotics between the poet and language, “You With the Stars…”. A great deal of silence in these poems, words surrounded by silence. Working off pauses and spaces.
- “Strobic”: sitting in a barber’s chair, observing. Hearing and seeing. To what extent is the poem about poetry? To some extent every poem as metapoetic/metaliterary.
- The range of subject matter in Cooley’s poems. What are the possible forms for poetry in our time? The challenge of writing is to find models to describe experience. Reading of other poems, that poems beget poems. Cooley argues that all poems are love poems (Robert Kroetsch wouldn’t go that far).
- “Curse”: Someone arguing that Cooley only sees women as machines in Bloody Jack, writing this poem in response to what he considers a “pretty simple-minded” reading.
- The poem almost forgetting its subject, getting caught up in the language
- Excerpt from Cooley’s essay “Vernacular Muse” read by Andrews.
- Crisis of audience in Canadian literature
- “Sonia”: gains power by virtue of her sexuality. The audience looking at the object of the jar is very much like the audience of the poem, compelled yet somewhat resisting.
- Connection between being a poet and working as an editor. Discussing small presses and the state of publishing in Canada.
- “Muse”: How do you write an elegy which resists consolation? Grief as silence.
- No acts are a-political, including literature.
NOTES
RELATED WORKS
Citation:
Bloody Jack