[{"id":"1260","cataloger_name":["Mahtab,Banihashemi"],"partnerInstitution":["Concordia University"],"collection_source_collection":["SGWU Reading Series-Concordia University Department of English fonds"],"source_collection_label":["SGWU Reading Series-Concordia University Department of English fonds"],"collection_contributing_unit":["Records Management and Archives"],"source_collection_uri":[""],"collection_image_url":[""],"collection_source_collection_description":["The fonds consists of some administrative records of the SGWU Department of English and the Concordia Department of English between 1971 and 2000. It also consists of some SGWU Department of English records related to student academic activities in the 1940s and to public readings and lectures, and a few interviews, produced between 1966 and 1972. The fonds mainly includes minutes of departmental meetings and some course timetables. It also includes some student papers in bound volumes and 63 sound recordings (80 audio reels) mainly composed of poetry readings (see the Concordia SpokenWeb project which uses this material) but also a few lectures given at SGWU. There are also loose typed sheets describing some of the SGWU poetry readings."],"collection_source_collection_id":["I086"],"persistent_url":["http://archives.concordia.ca/I086"],"item_title":["Robert Creeley at Sir George Williams University, The Poetry Series, 24 February 1967 "],"item_title_source":["Cataloguer"],"item_title_note":["\"ROBERT CREELEY I006/SR89.1\" written on sticker on the spine of the tape's box. I006-11-089.1 is written on a sticker on the tape reel"],"item_language":["English"],"item_production_context":["Documentary recording"],"item_series_title":["The Poetry Series"],"item_subseries_title":["Poetry 1"],"item_identifiers":["[]"],"access":["Streaming and download"],"creator_names":["Creeley, Robert"],"creator_names_search":["Creeley, Robert"],"creators":["[{\"url\":\"http://viaf.org/viaf/109562114\",\"name\":\"Creeley, Robert\",\"dates\":\"1926-2005\",\"notes\":\"American poet and essayist Robert Creeley was born in 1926 in Arlington, Massachusetts. His early life was marred by tragedy, as he lost his left eye in an accident and suffered the death of his father when he was four years old. Creeley then grew up on a farm, and felt repressed by his traditional Puritanical New England upbringing. After a year of Harvard University, Creeley joined the US Field Service in India and Burma. Returning again to Harvard, he married his first wife Ann MacKinnon, with whom he had three children, only to leave Harvard in his final semester. From 1948 to 1950, Creeley and his family moved to several locations including Provincetown, New Hampshire; Provenance, France; and Mallorca, Spain. Once in Mallorca, he set up The Divers Press with poet Denise Levertov. Creeley thus began correspondence with Charles Olson, and Olson offered Creeley a teaching position at the Black Mountain College in North Carolina, as well as a Bachelor’s degree in 1954. During his short time at Black Mountain, Creely edited Black Mountain Review, a journal known for its experimental writing. As well as many publications in poetry magazines, he published his first collection of short stories in The Gold Diggers in 1954 (Divers Press). After his marriage dissolved, Creeley headed West to San Francisco, meeting with Allen Ginsberg, Gary Snyder, and Kenneth Rexroth, as well as other Beat poets during the San Francisco Poetry Renaissance. Creeley then moved to Albuquerque, New Mexico, completed his M.A., and then took a position as professor of English. There, he met and married Bobbie Louise Hall, with whom he had two daughters and for whom he wrote most of his love poetry. His first major collection of poetry was For Love: Poems 1950-1960, published in 1962 (Scribner Press). Creeley subsequently published his novel, The Island (Scribner Press, 1963), and other poetry collections including Words (Scribner), The Charm: Early and Uncollected Poems (Perishable Press, 1967), and Pieces (Scribner, 1969). His essays and prose publications include A Quick Graph: Collected Notes and Essays (Four Seasons Foundation, 1970), A Sense of Measure (Calder and Boyars, 1973), and Was That a Real Poem and Other Essays (Four Seasons Foundation, 1979). His marriage with Bobbie ended in the late 70’s, and he married his third wife, Penelope Highton.  Creeley continued to publish his poetry in collections such as Later (New Directions, 1979), Mirrors (New Directions, 1983), Windows (New Directions, 1990), Echoes (New Directions, 1994), Life and Death (New Directions, 1998), and If I Were Writing This (New Directions, 2003). He has won a number of awards and honors, including the New York State Poet Laureate from 1989-91. He was elected a Chancellor of the Academy of American Poets in 1999, received the Lannan Lifetime Achievement Award, the Bollingen Prize, the Shelley Memorial Award, a Rockefeller Grant and two Guggenheim Fellowships. Robert Creeley died in 2005, but his poetry has been published posthumously in On Earth: Last Poems and an Essay (University of California Press, 2009), The Collected Poems of Robert Creeley, 1975-2005 (University of California Press, 2006) and Robert Creeley: Selected Poems, 1945-2005 (University of California Press, 2008).\",\"nation\":[],\"role\":[\"Performer\",\"Author\"]}]"],"contributors_names":["Layton, Irving"],"contributors_names_search":["Layton, Irving"],"contributors":["[{\"url\":\"http://viaf.org/viaf/66482092\",\"name\":\"Layton, Irving\",\"dates\":\"1912-2006\",\"notes\":\"\",\"nation\":[],\"role\":[\"Presenter\"]}]"],"Presenter_name":["Layton, Irving"],"Performance_Date":[1967],"material_description":["[{\"side\":\"\",\"image\":\"\",\"other\":\"\",\"extent\":\"1/4 inch\",\"AV_types\":\"Audio\",\"tape_brand\":\"Scotch\",\"generations\":\"\",\"Conservation\":\"\",\"equalization\":\"\",\"playback_mode\":\"Mono\",\"playing_speed\":\"\",\"sound_quality\":\"Good\",\"recording_type\":\"Analogue\",\"storage_capacity\":\"Tape\",\"physical_condition\":\"\",\"track_configuration\":\"2 track\",\"material_designation\":\"Reel to Reel\",\"physical_composition\":\"Magnetic Tape\",\"accompanying_material\":\"\",\"other_physical_description\":\"\"}]"],"material_designations":["Reel to Reel"],"physical_compositions":["Magnetic Tape"],"recording_type":["Analogue"],"AV_type":["Audio"],"playback_mode":["Mono"],"Dates":["[{\"date\":\"1967 2 24\",\"type\":\"Performance Date\",\"notes\":\"Date specified in \\\"Georgantics\\\" \",\"source\":\"Supplemental Material\"}]"],"Location":["[{\"url\":\"https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/22080570\",\"venue\":\"Hall Building Basement Theatre\",\"notes\":\"Location specified in printed announcement \\\"Georgantics\\\" (Supplemental material)\",\"address\":\"1455, Boul de Maisonneuve Ouest, Montreal, Quebec, Canada\",\"latitude\":\"45.4972758\",\"longitude\":\"-73.57893043\"}]"],"Address":["1455, Boul de Maisonneuve Ouest, Montreal, Quebec, Canada"],"Venue":["Hall Building Basement Theatre"],"City":["Montreal, Quebec"],"content_notes":["Robert Creeley reads from For Love (Scribner, 1962) and Words (Scribner, 1967)."],"contents":["robert_creeley_i006-11-089-1_1987.mp3\n\nIrving Layton\n00:00:15\nMr. Creeley [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q918620] has published too many books for me to list for you this evening, but some titles are deserving of notice. His Collected Poems was published by Scriveners in 1962 under the title For Love. He has also published short stories and they're brought out by Scriveners after first being published, privately I believe, under the title of The Gold Diggers. His most recent book, also brought out by Scriveners, is called Words. Mr. Creeley has a style that is unique and inimitable. There are many, both in this country [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16?wprov=srpw1_0] and in United States of America [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30?wprov=srpw1_0] that are trying to capture the delicate, tenuous quality of his work, and not quite successfully. For his is an art of pauses, of hesitations. He affirms by diffidence, and he destroys our pretensions with a whisper. He uses silence as a modern composer of music [unintelligible], or the way a contemporary painter uses space. He bounces words off against the wall of [unintelligible]. If you listen carefully, you'll hear reverberations and the subtlest of echoes. Mr. Creeley is one of the most honest poets writing today. And a very brave man, who knows the price that has to be paid for a good poem certified to endure. He has written a little song, sing days of happiness, make a pardonable wonder of one's blunders. The man who wrote those words knows all that needs to be known about the perilous vocation of the poet. One critic has said his poems are miniatures, but then hastened to add that they are not miniatures, sorry-One critic has said-this is not from memory-One critic has said that his poems are miniatures, but there's nothing miniature about the power that they release. I have said somewhere that he has written skinny poems, that miraculously grow in length and breath, one's air absorbed into one's consciousness. Slender firecrackers that explode with the power of a bomb. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Robert Creeley.\n\nAudience\n00:03:42\nApplause.\n\nRobert Creeley\n00:03:52\nSee now, it's extremely generous, Irving [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1673289], all that. No, because we have had a very long association. I think I'd like to say my piece too, apropos that fact that I think that the kind of community that say either Irving or myself in this way were involved with was what kinds of, no really, how could you find the world?  I mean, I, for example first read his poems in the collection called Cerberus with Louis Dudek [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3261787] and Raymond Souster [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q304129] and then I was very interested in the magazine that they had going called Contact, I was looking for connections I suppose, the man, in no hips sense, but we were, I was extraordinar--I wanted to know where the world was, and Irving seemed to be very much, very much part of any world I certainly could respect. And so, what he generously and definitely himself ignores was that he was that he was a very decisive contributing editor for the Black Mountain Review, and it was really, a very decisive friend all those fifteen years he imagines. Let me read now. Let me start from back then, \"A Song\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:05:47\nReads \"A Song\" [from For Love].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:06:37\nThis is apropos. \"The Conspiracy\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:06:43\nReads \"The Conspiracy\" [from For Love].\n \nAudience\n00:07:11\nLaughter.\n\nRobert Creeley\n00:07:12\nThat was no joke. \"Chanson\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:07:26\nReads \"Chanson\" [from For Love].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:08:00\n\"The Operation\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:08:05\nReads \"The Operation\" [from For Love].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:08:35\n\"The Death of Venus\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:08:41\nReads \"The Death of Venus\" [from For Love].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:09:17\nI was thinking Paul Blackburn [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7149388] happily has been here, so this is a poem, again of the same, the same situation that we were very active in the exchange of, I mean, again I want to emphasize  the sense that we were looking around to see what kinds of possibility that we could find in the world and I suppose if we shared anything, I was thinking of Irving's lovely stories and letters about the problems of visiting literary parties [laughs] and partly being forbidden because he made such awkward problems for guests and hosts, etc. So that Paul Blackburn at this point was translating from Provencal poetry, he'd been at the University of Wisconsin [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q838330] and had had a very active and useful relation with the woman there, I think it was, teaching Provencal, so that he'd also been very involved with Pound [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q163366?wprov=srpw1_0], with Pound's senses of activity in verse and had therefore become particularly interested in Provencal and had begun to translate, and through the same agency that we had in Mallorca [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8828], my wife and I then, the so called Divers Press that had published Irving's book, we published a collection of Paul's Provencal translations called Proensa. So the title, is actually Paul's title, I can't now remember what- I don't think he ever published the poem it was the title for, but I was struck by it, and you know, you take things, obviously from friends, it was that you were stealing, but that it was always a common situation. It's a form of adaptation, and I think a young friend now at Buffalo [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q681025] were presently working was telling me that I am in the courtly tradition which is confusing to me, but I can see what he means simply that did pick up a lot through Paul Blackburn and writers in this way using a vocabulary or sense of possibility involved with that kind of writing. So this poem, for example, would be, would be actually a, would be a poem not written by Paul Blackburn, but a poem much informed by his way of perceiving. \"A Form of Adaptation\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:11:46\nReads \"A Form of Adaptation\" [from For Love].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:12:40\n“The Whip”.\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:12:43\nReads \"The Whip\" [from For Love].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:13:29\n\"Please\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:13:36\nReads \"Please\" [from For Love].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:14:36\n\"The Three Ladies\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:14:39\nReads \"The Three Ladies\" [from For Love].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:16:04\n[Unintelligible] \"New Year’s\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:16:17\nReads \"New Year’s\" [from For Love].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:17:34\n\"Entre Nous\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:17:40\nReads \"Entre Nous\" [from For Love].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:18:08\n\"The Place\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:18:11\nReads \"The Place\" [from For Love].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:19:20\n\"The Hill\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:19:32\nReads \"The Hill\" [from For Love].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:20:21\n\"The Awakening\" for Charles Olson [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q922978].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:20:25\nReads \"The Awakening\" [from For Love].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:22:04\n\"The Rain\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:22:12\nReads \"The Rain\" [from For Love]. \n \nRobert Creeley\n00:23:12\n\"Kore\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:23:20\nReads \"Kore\" [from For Love].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:24:09\nI thought I'd read a few more of these in this particular collection. Zukofsky [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q975481] is a man I very much respect. \"The House\", for Louis Zukofsky.\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:24:29\nReads \"The House\" [from For Love].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:25:06\n\"The Pool\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:25:13\nReads \"The Pool\" [from For Love].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:26:18\nWater, I really love water. To Water.\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:26:26\nReads \"The Rocks\" [from Words].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:27:47\n\"The Fire\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:27:50\nReads \"The Fire\" [from Words].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:28:31\n\"Something\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:28:37\nReads \"Something” [from Words].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:29:46\nThat was a, there's another poem with that same sense, no really, I'm very, I think that some of the lovely incongruities of existence [unintelligible] Charlotte- whose last name I can't remember, [unintelligible] like to say was arrested in New York for trying to, as she put it, and I believe, lovely innocence, she wanted to have chamber music as quote sexy unquote as other life circumstances seemed to be becoming, so that she was playing something like [unintelligible] or Bach [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1339] in topless condition and was arrested by a very discreet policeman and taken away. Although she wanted apparently to entertain the sight as well as the ear. I don't know, I mean, why shouldn't she be permitted to do that? \"Distance\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:31:03\nReads \"Distance\" [from Words].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:34:29\nA couple of these, two from Mexico [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q96]. \"The Window\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:34:36\nReads \"The Window\" [from Words].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:35:30\n\"To Bobbie\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:35:34\nReads \"To Bobbie\" [from Words].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:36:46\nI wanna, there's one poem, apropos I'd like to go back to, a couple--\"The Rose\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:37:02\nReads \"The Rose\" [from For Love].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:38:46\n\"Love Comes Quietly\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:38:53\nReads \"Love Comes Quietly\" [from For Love].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:39:15\n\"The Gesture\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:39:21\nReads \"The Gesture\" [from For Love].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:39:52\n\"For Love\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:39:56\nReads \"For Love\" [from For Love].\n\nRobert Creeley\n00:42:39\nI want to go back to this one. There's one... called, \"Anger\". This interpolates, so to speak of. I've been traveling in an extraordinary company of people the last, or the week previous and then, we'll see them again at the same activity tomorrow night in New York [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q60?wprov=srpw1_0]. We were billed as quote contemporary voices in the arts, unquote, but apart from that the, we were visiting various colleges and universities in the Upstate New York area from say Albany State [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4709390] to Rensselaer Polytechnic [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q49211] to Potsdam [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7603628], and then places St Lawrence [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1411093] or Union College [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1567748] and we were trying, in effect, to- we had the problem of we were billed as a panel, seven men, sitting down to discuss- John Cage [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q180727] is one of the participants, and he said, 'well', of course if we sit down, we say, 'well where do you think art is going?' and then you have to figure out where do you think art's come from? [laughter] And at that point you just might as well come home because it's going to be a long, long conversation. So we decided that we would, instead of having the formal sense of panel, that we would simply create, improvise, or go about in effect at our own activity, except that we wouldn't isolate ourselves in that but would simply try to improvise, as we were seven people, a poem that could permit each one of us to be active, all together so that we at no point had much- we had no decision as to what the others would be doing, so that the whole activity occurred as the complex, and I was- I mean, I had never had any experience of this kind previously at all, John Cage had made, oh very large decisions indeed about this kind of possibility in music, simply that he wanted all possibility of sound to be admitted into the context that music proposes. He also had very decisive relation to what are called loosely 'happenings', and both he and Merce Cunningham [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q318364], another participant, had in that with some previous experience, but the point is that they weren't- neither was trying to create a system from previous experience, but again was trying to think of how this activity of seven people could be evident in ways that simply didn't create a three-ring circus but was actually a participation so, I was intrigued, I was extraordinarily intrigued as to how words, as poetry and whatnot could enter into this circumstance, and because I literally was in it, I have in a sense no quote objective unquote experience at all, but it was extraordinary to me to hear how things are heard in a multiple, in a multiple event, rather than the kind of singularity that this occasion proposes. So I still have that on my mind in a way, and I may, I really do feel that say, all the arts, I mean if one does want some kind of statement about them, that all the arts are moving into a situation where the agency is becoming less and less singular, I don't mean necessarily that in some seminal sense, that everyone's quote an artist, I mean I don't know what an artist is, in one way at all, but I think that the participation is becoming much more a situation of process and activity, and that it is becoming less and less evident as one singular isolation of person, and I realize in my own writing how much the previous condition had been my, my occasion. So, I may be reading these poems for the last time in that sense. I'm certainly prepared to do so, I'm not at all interested in continuing an activity that maybe, you know, maybe have much more experience or much more range of possibility than say contemporary habits about it seem to imply. But anyhow, that was interesting to me to have that experience and also interesting of course is what it had as an impact on educational process. Immediately this activity finished and I've never been in such a- I mean I've been, you know, like they say in [unintelligible] auditorium in the summer, I certainly have seen light shows and other [unintelligible] happenings, a few years ago, it was Roy Kiyooka [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3445789], knows, having been there also, there was an extraordinary happening like they say put on by the Tate Music Center from San Francisco [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q62]  [unintelligible] being the painter doing the so called decor, doing the set, the set that was used, creating the visual. But this other thing was something quite distinct, simply that each person was so active in ways that he couldn't anticipate and we had with us also Billy Kluver [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4912866], who can be most easily identified as the man who, is literally is an Engineer at Bell Labs [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q217365] in New Jersey [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1408?wprov=srpw1_0] who engineered the 9 Evenings [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4646407] of the Armory [Hall (?)] in company with Rauschenberg [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q164358], [Vergan (?)] and Cage [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q180727] and others, a situation that brought technology into close apropos with the arts, and led to the practical effects of this activity are very evident, it led to ten patented inventions, all of which have much more extensive use, let's say than that occasion of those particular evenings. That was [unintelligible] you know, many, many poets [unintelligible] of this kind, that is, it turns out that when the arts are permitted this situation, that, I think we were talking to Irving earlier this evening, I think we both fear a situation, or have some kind of, feeling of personal awkwardness about a situation that is turning to the arts as if the arts had a necessary message or condition of life to stake for people to have use of, I mean, again, in these evenings we were round in these colleges, I mean the students or the people present, again and again said that \"what were you trying to tell us?\" And the point was that we weren't trying to tell them anything. We were in fact, we thought, that the activity was something which each person could have experienced, it would be like going to the beach and saying what do you think the water is trying to tell us? [audience laughter.] And you stand there, you're swimming [unintelligible] for two hours enjoying yourself thoroughly and then you come out and say to your friend, but what did it all mean? You know, we assumed that the people there would have some - would have some decision of their own, you know, did you think it was too cold, or too hot, or did you enjoy it, or you know, that's the kind of question no one can answer for you. In any case, I do feel the arts has, as Irving feels also, are being turned to, as some possibility of decision in contemporary society and don't think they can offer that ever, I don't- I think the very value of the arts is that they have no conclusion of this kind to propose, that what they do give is something I think perhaps Pound puts as ably as anyone when he says that \"art is the antenna of the race\". It's a very large statement obviously, and I think what he proposes in it is perhaps even can be put more simply in that the arts tend to experience the condition of the society that is, in a sense, and that way I have use of the condition of the society, perhaps more immediately than any other definition or activity in the society, I mean they tend to respond to the present condition perhaps more decisively than any other segment, I mean everyone else tends, not- I don't mean this in any put down sense of their attitudes in this society but I mean, that as the war goes on because it's an historical precedent and so on and so forth, I mean people continued to act as though what they were doing is still what they are doing, what they are doing is still what they were doing and they literally tend to continue in those habits of attitude or activity until something simply makes them impossible, but the arts tend to have experience I think of present condition, that they have no other viable occasion, they tend to propose what the immediate experience of say any life situation simply is, but they have no instruction therefore offer except that is possible, so that as I say, if poetry, as we've now experienced it is about to yield to another situation that is if books or printed medium of this order are to be changed, in societal experience, great, I mean I don't see why I want you to have to carry around all these pieces of paper, there must be, I'm sure that there's a simple way to communicate this kind of content but I do want to make the insistence that these poems or what I'm doing here has- I mean, I'm enjoying this, I'd probably do this even if you weren't here. [audience laughter], obviously did do it, you know. Now this is something else again, I had no messages, if the media is the message, this is perhaps the most absolute demonstration you'll probably get. \"Anger\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:54:01\nReads \"Anger\" [from Words].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:59:25\nI'd like if people are feeling reasonably restless, I'd like to read one or two more poems and then one more story to make a selection frankly [unintelligible]  I think I'll see what would be useful. A couple of shorter poems for the end. One called \"A Tally\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n01:00:01\nReads \"A Tally\" [from Words].\n \nRobert Creeley\n01:01:41\n\"Enough\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n01:01:45\nReads \"Enough\" [from Words].\n \nRobert Creeley\n01:06:00\nOne last poem I want to read now, [unintelligible] \"The Hole\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n01:06:07\nReads \"The Hole\" [from Words].\n \nRobert Creeley\n01:07:53\nRead a story that's in effect going back some time to the time of the writing of the Island, a novel. And I hadn't written any prose for some time, not since the middle 50's and I had a [joke (?)], myself and my wife and our four kids were all down in Guatemala [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q774]where I was tutoring children on a coffee plantation, and having that kind of isolation and time that seemed to, you know, have the possibility to try some prose. I like prose simply that it has--it's continuous, it permits a kind of variety of activity in ways that sometimes poetry from my own experience, at least in the way I'm given to write it, doesn't altogether- I mean, the emotional demand, let's say in a poem is in my own experience has known it, is of such order that alternatives in a curious way aren't possible, you simply say what you're thus brought to say as best you can. In prose, the emotional so called situation tends to be more various, it goes up, down, it ebbs, flows, re-forms, changes its mind, and so on and so forth, so I--not in recent years, I think the last prose I wrote was this novel, called the Island and I've not really written any since, that's about--when I was in Vancouver [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q24639]teaching I finished that novel, and that was the last prose I think I've written and hopefully won't--I would like to go back to prose for a time. I'd like to have it open, I mean, again, this experience of being with these particular people, whenever habits become, oh let's say whenever you expect everything to be as you have experienced, it's time to look out or do something else because it means that you're assuming of the reality of your life has become too much of a pattern of a habit. Anyhow, this is a story called \"The Book\". I sort of like this story.\n \nRobert Creeley\n01:10:22\nReads \"The Book\".\n\nRobert Creeley\n01:21:15\nThank you very much for your...\n\nAudience \n01:21:16\nApplause.\n\nIntroducer\n01:21:39\nI think I speak for everyone in thanking Robert Creeley for being able to come down and make the scene tonight. There are a couple of announcements that I want to make, the first one I can't remember so I'll have to [unintelligible], [Audrey Brunet (?)], that I do remember invites everyone to come to hear \"Prayers on the Periphery\", an original reading, this coming Monday, March the 6th at 8:30 pm in the little gallery on the mezzanine. Our next reading is a week from now, next Friday, March the 3rd, and Victor Coleman [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q23882910] and George Bowering [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1239280] from Buffalo [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q40435]  and Toronto [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q172] will be coming. Thank you.\n\nAudience\n01:22:32\nApplause.\n\nUnknown\n01:22:45\n[Cut or edit made in tape].\n\nRobert Creeley \n01:22:48\nReads “The Book” [repeated from 00:27:43].\n\nEND\n01:23:12\n"],"Note":["[{\"note\":\"Year-Specific Information: \\n\\nRobert Creeley, tenured as a full professor at SUNY Buffalo in 1967, edited The New Writing in the USA with Don Allen, and published Words and The Charm: Early and Uncollected Poems.  Creeley attended the London International Poetry Festival in July of 1967.\\n\",\"type\":\"General\"},{\"note\":\"Local Connections: \\n\\nCreeley had ties with Irving Layton through the Black Mountain Review in the 50’s. Creeley moved to Vancouver to work at the University of British Columbia in 1960-61. He had contacts with Phyllis Webb and Irving Layton. Creeley was George Bowering’s Master's thesis advisor at University of British Columbia until 1963, and wrote introductions for Bowering’s poetry[1]. He came to visit Montreal and Sir George Williams University the same year Layton was poet in residence, after years of correspondence.\",\"type\":\"General\"},{\"note\":\"Reel-to-reel tape>2 CDs>digital file\",\"type\":\"Preservation\"},{\"note\":\"Notes on item identifiers: \\n\\nIrving Layton makes introductory speech, and it’s referred to in Irving’s reading, in 1967. I006-11-089.1 and I006-11-089.1-AC2 are from same reading. I006-11-089.2 is a separate reading.\\n\",\"type\":\"General\"},{\"note\":\"Original transcript, print catalogue, research, introduction and edits by Celyn Harding-Jones\\n\\nAdditional research and edits by Sarah McDonnell and Ali Barillaro\",\"type\":\"Cataloguer\"}]"],"Related_works":["[{\"url\":\"https://www.worldcat.org/title/collected-poems-of-robert-creeley/oclc/1151730303&referer=brief_results\",\"citation\":\"Creeley, Robert, and Penelope Creeley. The Collected Poems of Robert Creeley: 1945-1975. 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His Collected Poems was published by Scriveners in 1962 under the title For Love. He has also published short stories and they're brought out by Scriveners after first being published, privately I believe, under the title of The Gold Diggers. His most recent book, also brought out by Scriveners, is called Words. Mr. Creeley has a style that is unique and inimitable. There are many, both in this country [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16?wprov=srpw1_0] and in United States of America [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30?wprov=srpw1_0] that are trying to capture the delicate, tenuous quality of his work, and not quite successfully. For his is an art of pauses, of hesitations. He affirms by diffidence, and he destroys our pretensions with a whisper. He uses silence as a modern composer of music [unintelligible], or the way a contemporary painter uses space. He bounces words off against the wall of [unintelligible]. If you listen carefully, you'll hear reverberations and the subtlest of echoes. Mr. Creeley is one of the most honest poets writing today. And a very brave man, who knows the price that has to be paid for a good poem certified to endure. He has written a little song, sing days of happiness, make a pardonable wonder of one's blunders. The man who wrote those words knows all that needs to be known about the perilous vocation of the poet. One critic has said his poems are miniatures, but then hastened to add that they are not miniatures, sorry-One critic has said-this is not from memory-One critic has said that his poems are miniatures, but there's nothing miniature about the power that they release. I have said somewhere that he has written skinny poems, that miraculously grow in length and breath, one's air absorbed into one's consciousness. Slender firecrackers that explode with the power of a bomb. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Robert Creeley.\\n\\nAudience\\n00:03:42\\nApplause.\\n\\nRobert Creeley\\n00:03:52\\nSee now, it's extremely generous, Irving [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1673289], all that. No, because we have had a very long association. I think I'd like to say my piece too, apropos that fact that I think that the kind of community that say either Irving or myself in this way were involved with was what kinds of, no really, how could you find the world?  I mean, I, for example first read his poems in the collection called Cerberus with Louis Dudek [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3261787] and Raymond Souster [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q304129] and then I was very interested in the magazine that they had going called Contact, I was looking for connections I suppose, the man, in no hips sense, but we were, I was extraordinar--I wanted to know where the world was, and Irving seemed to be very much, very much part of any world I certainly could respect. And so, what he generously and definitely himself ignores was that he was that he was a very decisive contributing editor for the Black Mountain Review, and it was really, a very decisive friend all those fifteen years he imagines. Let me read now. Let me start from back then, \\\"A Song\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:05:47\\nReads \\\"A Song\\\" [from For Love].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:06:37\\nThis is apropos. \\\"The Conspiracy\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:06:43\\nReads \\\"The Conspiracy\\\" [from For Love].\\n \\nAudience\\n00:07:11\\nLaughter.\\n\\nRobert Creeley\\n00:07:12\\nThat was no joke. \\\"Chanson\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:07:26\\nReads \\\"Chanson\\\" [from For Love].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:08:00\\n\\\"The Operation\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:08:05\\nReads \\\"The Operation\\\" [from For Love].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:08:35\\n\\\"The Death of Venus\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:08:41\\nReads \\\"The Death of Venus\\\" [from For Love].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:09:17\\nI was thinking Paul Blackburn [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7149388] happily has been here, so this is a poem, again of the same, the same situation that we were very active in the exchange of, I mean, again I want to emphasize  the sense that we were looking around to see what kinds of possibility that we could find in the world and I suppose if we shared anything, I was thinking of Irving's lovely stories and letters about the problems of visiting literary parties [laughs] and partly being forbidden because he made such awkward problems for guests and hosts, etc. So that Paul Blackburn at this point was translating from Provencal poetry, he'd been at the University of Wisconsin [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q838330] and had had a very active and useful relation with the woman there, I think it was, teaching Provencal, so that he'd also been very involved with Pound [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q163366?wprov=srpw1_0], with Pound's senses of activity in verse and had therefore become particularly interested in Provencal and had begun to translate, and through the same agency that we had in Mallorca [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8828], my wife and I then, the so called Divers Press that had published Irving's book, we published a collection of Paul's Provencal translations called Proensa. So the title, is actually Paul's title, I can't now remember what- I don't think he ever published the poem it was the title for, but I was struck by it, and you know, you take things, obviously from friends, it was that you were stealing, but that it was always a common situation. It's a form of adaptation, and I think a young friend now at Buffalo [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q681025] were presently working was telling me that I am in the courtly tradition which is confusing to me, but I can see what he means simply that did pick up a lot through Paul Blackburn and writers in this way using a vocabulary or sense of possibility involved with that kind of writing. So this poem, for example, would be, would be actually a, would be a poem not written by Paul Blackburn, but a poem much informed by his way of perceiving. \\\"A Form of Adaptation\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:11:46\\nReads \\\"A Form of Adaptation\\\" [from For Love].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:12:40\\n“The Whip”.\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:12:43\\nReads \\\"The Whip\\\" [from For Love].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:13:29\\n\\\"Please\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:13:36\\nReads \\\"Please\\\" [from For Love].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:14:36\\n\\\"The Three Ladies\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:14:39\\nReads \\\"The Three Ladies\\\" [from For Love].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:16:04\\n[Unintelligible] \\\"New Year’s\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:16:17\\nReads \\\"New Year’s\\\" [from For Love].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:17:34\\n\\\"Entre Nous\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:17:40\\nReads \\\"Entre Nous\\\" [from For Love].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:18:08\\n\\\"The Place\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:18:11\\nReads \\\"The Place\\\" [from For Love].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:19:20\\n\\\"The Hill\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:19:32\\nReads \\\"The Hill\\\" [from For Love].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:20:21\\n\\\"The Awakening\\\" for Charles Olson [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q922978].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:20:25\\nReads \\\"The Awakening\\\" [from For Love].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:22:04\\n\\\"The Rain\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:22:12\\nReads \\\"The Rain\\\" [from For Love]. \\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:23:12\\n\\\"Kore\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:23:20\\nReads \\\"Kore\\\" [from For Love].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:24:09\\nI thought I'd read a few more of these in this particular collection. Zukofsky [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q975481] is a man I very much respect. \\\"The House\\\", for Louis Zukofsky.\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:24:29\\nReads \\\"The House\\\" [from For Love].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:25:06\\n\\\"The Pool\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:25:13\\nReads \\\"The Pool\\\" [from For Love].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:26:18\\nWater, I really love water. To Water.\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:26:26\\nReads \\\"The Rocks\\\" [from Words].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:27:47\\n\\\"The Fire\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:27:50\\nReads \\\"The Fire\\\" [from Words].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:28:31\\n\\\"Something\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:28:37\\nReads \\\"Something” [from Words].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:29:46\\nThat was a, there's another poem with that same sense, no really, I'm very, I think that some of the lovely incongruities of existence [unintelligible] Charlotte- whose last name I can't remember, [unintelligible] like to say was arrested in New York for trying to, as she put it, and I believe, lovely innocence, she wanted to have chamber music as quote sexy unquote as other life circumstances seemed to be becoming, so that she was playing something like [unintelligible] or Bach [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1339] in topless condition and was arrested by a very discreet policeman and taken away. Although she wanted apparently to entertain the sight as well as the ear. I don't know, I mean, why shouldn't she be permitted to do that? \\\"Distance\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:31:03\\nReads \\\"Distance\\\" [from Words].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:34:29\\nA couple of these, two from Mexico [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q96]. \\\"The Window\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:34:36\\nReads \\\"The Window\\\" [from Words].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:35:30\\n\\\"To Bobbie\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:35:34\\nReads \\\"To Bobbie\\\" [from Words].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:36:46\\nI wanna, there's one poem, apropos I'd like to go back to, a couple--\\\"The Rose\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:37:02\\nReads \\\"The Rose\\\" [from For Love].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:38:46\\n\\\"Love Comes Quietly\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:38:53\\nReads \\\"Love Comes Quietly\\\" [from For Love].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:39:15\\n\\\"The Gesture\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:39:21\\nReads \\\"The Gesture\\\" [from For Love].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:39:52\\n\\\"For Love\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:39:56\\nReads \\\"For Love\\\" [from For Love].\\n\\nRobert Creeley\\n00:42:39\\nI want to go back to this one. There's one... called, \\\"Anger\\\". This interpolates, so to speak of. I've been traveling in an extraordinary company of people the last, or the week previous and then, we'll see them again at the same activity tomorrow night in New York [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q60?wprov=srpw1_0]. We were billed as quote contemporary voices in the arts, unquote, but apart from that the, we were visiting various colleges and universities in the Upstate New York area from say Albany State [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4709390] to Rensselaer Polytechnic [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q49211] to Potsdam [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7603628], and then places St Lawrence [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1411093] or Union College [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1567748] and we were trying, in effect, to- we had the problem of we were billed as a panel, seven men, sitting down to discuss- John Cage [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q180727] is one of the participants, and he said, 'well', of course if we sit down, we say, 'well where do you think art is going?' and then you have to figure out where do you think art's come from? [laughter] And at that point you just might as well come home because it's going to be a long, long conversation. So we decided that we would, instead of having the formal sense of panel, that we would simply create, improvise, or go about in effect at our own activity, except that we wouldn't isolate ourselves in that but would simply try to improvise, as we were seven people, a poem that could permit each one of us to be active, all together so that we at no point had much- we had no decision as to what the others would be doing, so that the whole activity occurred as the complex, and I was- I mean, I had never had any experience of this kind previously at all, John Cage had made, oh very large decisions indeed about this kind of possibility in music, simply that he wanted all possibility of sound to be admitted into the context that music proposes. He also had very decisive relation to what are called loosely 'happenings', and both he and Merce Cunningham [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q318364], another participant, had in that with some previous experience, but the point is that they weren't- neither was trying to create a system from previous experience, but again was trying to think of how this activity of seven people could be evident in ways that simply didn't create a three-ring circus but was actually a participation so, I was intrigued, I was extraordinarily intrigued as to how words, as poetry and whatnot could enter into this circumstance, and because I literally was in it, I have in a sense no quote objective unquote experience at all, but it was extraordinary to me to hear how things are heard in a multiple, in a multiple event, rather than the kind of singularity that this occasion proposes. So I still have that on my mind in a way, and I may, I really do feel that say, all the arts, I mean if one does want some kind of statement about them, that all the arts are moving into a situation where the agency is becoming less and less singular, I don't mean necessarily that in some seminal sense, that everyone's quote an artist, I mean I don't know what an artist is, in one way at all, but I think that the participation is becoming much more a situation of process and activity, and that it is becoming less and less evident as one singular isolation of person, and I realize in my own writing how much the previous condition had been my, my occasion. So, I may be reading these poems for the last time in that sense. I'm certainly prepared to do so, I'm not at all interested in continuing an activity that maybe, you know, maybe have much more experience or much more range of possibility than say contemporary habits about it seem to imply. But anyhow, that was interesting to me to have that experience and also interesting of course is what it had as an impact on educational process. Immediately this activity finished and I've never been in such a- I mean I've been, you know, like they say in [unintelligible] auditorium in the summer, I certainly have seen light shows and other [unintelligible] happenings, a few years ago, it was Roy Kiyooka [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3445789], knows, having been there also, there was an extraordinary happening like they say put on by the Tate Music Center from San Francisco [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q62]  [unintelligible] being the painter doing the so called decor, doing the set, the set that was used, creating the visual. But this other thing was something quite distinct, simply that each person was so active in ways that he couldn't anticipate and we had with us also Billy Kluver [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4912866], who can be most easily identified as the man who, is literally is an Engineer at Bell Labs [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q217365] in New Jersey [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1408?wprov=srpw1_0] who engineered the 9 Evenings [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4646407] of the Armory [Hall (?)] in company with Rauschenberg [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q164358], [Vergan (?)] and Cage [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q180727] and others, a situation that brought technology into close apropos with the arts, and led to the practical effects of this activity are very evident, it led to ten patented inventions, all of which have much more extensive use, let's say than that occasion of those particular evenings. That was [unintelligible] you know, many, many poets [unintelligible] of this kind, that is, it turns out that when the arts are permitted this situation, that, I think we were talking to Irving earlier this evening, I think we both fear a situation, or have some kind of, feeling of personal awkwardness about a situation that is turning to the arts as if the arts had a necessary message or condition of life to stake for people to have use of, I mean, again, in these evenings we were round in these colleges, I mean the students or the people present, again and again said that \\\"what were you trying to tell us?\\\" And the point was that we weren't trying to tell them anything. We were in fact, we thought, that the activity was something which each person could have experienced, it would be like going to the beach and saying what do you think the water is trying to tell us? [audience laughter.] And you stand there, you're swimming [unintelligible] for two hours enjoying yourself thoroughly and then you come out and say to your friend, but what did it all mean? You know, we assumed that the people there would have some - would have some decision of their own, you know, did you think it was too cold, or too hot, or did you enjoy it, or you know, that's the kind of question no one can answer for you. In any case, I do feel the arts has, as Irving feels also, are being turned to, as some possibility of decision in contemporary society and don't think they can offer that ever, I don't- I think the very value of the arts is that they have no conclusion of this kind to propose, that what they do give is something I think perhaps Pound puts as ably as anyone when he says that \\\"art is the antenna of the race\\\". It's a very large statement obviously, and I think what he proposes in it is perhaps even can be put more simply in that the arts tend to experience the condition of the society that is, in a sense, and that way I have use of the condition of the society, perhaps more immediately than any other definition or activity in the society, I mean they tend to respond to the present condition perhaps more decisively than any other segment, I mean everyone else tends, not- I don't mean this in any put down sense of their attitudes in this society but I mean, that as the war goes on because it's an historical precedent and so on and so forth, I mean people continued to act as though what they were doing is still what they are doing, what they are doing is still what they were doing and they literally tend to continue in those habits of attitude or activity until something simply makes them impossible, but the arts tend to have experience I think of present condition, that they have no other viable occasion, they tend to propose what the immediate experience of say any life situation simply is, but they have no instruction therefore offer except that is possible, so that as I say, if poetry, as we've now experienced it is about to yield to another situation that is if books or printed medium of this order are to be changed, in societal experience, great, I mean I don't see why I want you to have to carry around all these pieces of paper, there must be, I'm sure that there's a simple way to communicate this kind of content but I do want to make the insistence that these poems or what I'm doing here has- I mean, I'm enjoying this, I'd probably do this even if you weren't here. [audience laughter], obviously did do it, you know. Now this is something else again, I had no messages, if the media is the message, this is perhaps the most absolute demonstration you'll probably get. \\\"Anger\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:54:01\\nReads \\\"Anger\\\" [from Words].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:59:25\\nI'd like if people are feeling reasonably restless, I'd like to read one or two more poems and then one more story to make a selection frankly [unintelligible]  I think I'll see what would be useful. A couple of shorter poems for the end. One called \\\"A Tally\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n01:00:01\\nReads \\\"A Tally\\\" [from Words].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n01:01:41\\n\\\"Enough\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n01:01:45\\nReads \\\"Enough\\\" [from Words].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n01:06:00\\nOne last poem I want to read now, [unintelligible] \\\"The Hole\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n01:06:07\\nReads \\\"The Hole\\\" [from Words].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n01:07:53\\nRead a story that's in effect going back some time to the time of the writing of the Island, a novel. And I hadn't written any prose for some time, not since the middle 50's and I had a [joke (?)], myself and my wife and our four kids were all down in Guatemala [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q774]where I was tutoring children on a coffee plantation, and having that kind of isolation and time that seemed to, you know, have the possibility to try some prose. I like prose simply that it has--it's continuous, it permits a kind of variety of activity in ways that sometimes poetry from my own experience, at least in the way I'm given to write it, doesn't altogether- I mean, the emotional demand, let's say in a poem is in my own experience has known it, is of such order that alternatives in a curious way aren't possible, you simply say what you're thus brought to say as best you can. In prose, the emotional so called situation tends to be more various, it goes up, down, it ebbs, flows, re-forms, changes its mind, and so on and so forth, so I--not in recent years, I think the last prose I wrote was this novel, called the Island and I've not really written any since, that's about--when I was in Vancouver [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q24639]teaching I finished that novel, and that was the last prose I think I've written and hopefully won't--I would like to go back to prose for a time. I'd like to have it open, I mean, again, this experience of being with these particular people, whenever habits become, oh let's say whenever you expect everything to be as you have experienced, it's time to look out or do something else because it means that you're assuming of the reality of your life has become too much of a pattern of a habit. Anyhow, this is a story called \\\"The Book\\\". I sort of like this story.\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n01:10:22\\nReads \\\"The Book\\\".\\n\\nRobert Creeley\\n01:21:15\\nThank you very much for your...\\n\\nAudience \\n01:21:16\\nApplause.\\n\\nIntroducer\\n01:21:39\\nI think I speak for everyone in thanking Robert Creeley for being able to come down and make the scene tonight. There are a couple of announcements that I want to make, the first one I can't remember so I'll have to [unintelligible], [Audrey Brunet (?)], that I do remember invites everyone to come to hear \\\"Prayers on the Periphery\\\", an original reading, this coming Monday, March the 6th at 8:30 pm in the little gallery on the mezzanine. Our next reading is a week from now, next Friday, March the 3rd, and Victor Coleman [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q23882910] and George Bowering [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1239280] from Buffalo [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q40435]  and Toronto [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q172] will be coming. Thank you.\\n\\nAudience\\n01:22:32\\nApplause.\\n\\nUnknown\\n01:22:45\\n[Cut or edit made in tape].\\n\\nRobert Creeley \\n01:22:48\\nReads “The Book” [repeated from 00:27:43].\\n\\nEND\\n01:23:12\\n\",\"notes\":\"Robert Creeley reads from For Love (Scribner, 1962) and Words (Scribner, 1967).\\n\\nI006-11-089.1=AC.1\\n\\n00:15- Irving Layton introduces Robert Creeley [INDEX: Irving Layton, Collected Poems         \\tScriveners Press 1962, For Love, The Gold Diggers, Words by Robert Creeley]\\n03:52- Robert Creeley responds to Layton’s introduction and introduces “A Song”. [INDEX:  \\tCerberus, Contact Magazine, Louis Dudek, Raymond Souster, Irving Layton as editor for \\tBlack Mountain Review]\\n05:47- Reads “A Song”\\n06:37- Reads “The Conspiracy”\\n07:12- Reads “Chanson”\\n08:00- Reads “The Operation”\\n08:35- Reads “The Death of Venus”\\n09:17- Introduces “A Form of Adaptation”. [INDEX: Paul Blackburn, University of Wisconsin, Divers Press, Irving Layton, Provencal Poetry, Ezra Pound, Mallorca, Proensa by Paul Blackburn.]\\n11:46- Reads “A Form of Adaptation”\\n12:40- Reads “The Whip”\\n13:29- Reads “Please”\\n14:36- Reads “The Three Ladies”\\n16:04- Reads “New Year’s”\\n17:34- Reads “Entre-Nous”\\n18:08- Reads “The Place”\\n19:20- Reads “The Hill”\\n20:21- Reads “The Awakening” [INDEX: Charles Olson]\\n22:04- Reads “The Rain”\\n23:12- Reads “Kore”\\n24:09- Introduces “The House” [INDEX: Louis Zukofsky]\\n24:29- Reads “The House”\\n25:06- Reads “The Pool”\\n26:18- Reads “To Water”\\n27:47- Reads “The Fire”\\n28:31- Reads “Something”\\n29:46- Introduces “Distance” [INDEX: New York, Bach]\\n31:03- Reads “Distance”\\n34:29- Introduces “The Window”\\n34:36- Reads “The Window”\\n35:30- Reads “To Bobby”\\n36:46- Reads “The Rose”\\n38:46- Reads “Love Comes Quietly”\\n39:25- Reads “The Gesture”\\n39:52- Reads “For Love”\\n42:39.23- END OF RECORDING\\n\\nI006-11-089.1= AC2\\n \\n00:00- Robert Creeley introduces “Anger” and talks about the state of art and poetry [INDEX:    Upstate New York, Albany State University, Rensselaer Polytechnic, Pottsdam, St.        \\tLawrence College, Union College- Part of Reading Series of seven artists with John Cage, Merce Cunningham. Roy Kiyooka at the Tate Music Center in San Francisco. Billy Kluver from Bell Labs in New Jersey, engineered “9 Evenings” at the Armory Hall with Rauschenberg, [Vergan (?) ] and John Cage. Technology and art, purpose of art, Ezra Pound.]\\n11:21- Reads “Anger”\\n16:46- Reads “A Tally”\\n19:02- Reads “Enough”\\n23:21- Reads “The Hole”\\n25:14- Introduces short story “The Book”. [INDEX: Prose, middle 50’s, Guatemala (teaching \\tchildren on a coffee plantation), writing poetry vs. prose, Vancouver, Island by Robert   \\tCreeley.]\\n27:43- Reads “The Book”\\n38:59- Unknown male thanks Robert Creeley, makes announcements. [INDEX: Audrey Brunet   [?] “Prayers on the Periphery” on March 6th. 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His early life was marred by tragedy, as he lost his left eye in an accident and suffered the death of his father when he was four years old. Creeley then grew up on a farm, and felt repressed by his traditional Puritanical New England upbringing. After a year of Harvard University, Creeley joined the US Field Service in India and Burma. Returning again to Harvard, he married his first wife Ann MacKinnon, with whom he had three children, only to leave Harvard in his final semester. From 1948 to 1950, Creeley and his family moved to several locations including Provincetown, New Hampshire; Provenance, France; and Mallorca, Spain. Once in Mallorca, he set up The Divers Press with poet Denise Levertov. Creeley thus began correspondence with Charles Olson, and Olson offered Creeley a teaching position at the Black Mountain College in North Carolina, as well as a Bachelor’s degree in 1954. During his short time at Black Mountain, Creely edited Black Mountain Review, a journal known for its experimental writing. As well as many publications in poetry magazines, he published his first collection of short stories in The Gold Diggers in 1954 (Divers Press). After his marriage dissolved, Creeley headed West to San Francisco, meeting with Allen Ginsberg, Gary Snyder, and Kenneth Rexroth, as well as other Beat poets during the San Francisco Poetry Renaissance. Creeley then moved to Albuquerque, New Mexico, completed his M.A., and then took a position as professor of English. There, he met and married Bobbie Louise Hall, with whom he had two daughters and for whom he wrote most of his love poetry. His first major collection of poetry was For Love: Poems 1950-1960, published in 1962 (Scribner Press). Creeley subsequently published his novel, The Island (Scribner Press, 1963), and other poetry collections including Words (Scribner), The Charm: Early and Uncollected Poems (Perishable Press, 1967), and Pieces (Scribner, 1969). His essays and prose publications include A Quick Graph: Collected Notes and Essays (Four Seasons Foundation, 1970), A Sense of Measure (Calder and Boyars, 1973), and Was That a Real Poem and Other Essays (Four Seasons Foundation, 1979). His marriage with Bobbie ended in the late 70’s, and he married his third wife, Penelope Highton.  Creeley continued to publish his poetry in collections such as Later (New Directions, 1979), Mirrors (New Directions, 1983), Windows (New Directions, 1990), Echoes (New Directions, 1994), Life and Death (New Directions, 1998), and If I Were Writing This (New Directions, 2003). He has won a number of awards and honors, including the New York State Poet Laureate from 1989-91. 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What has really introduced Robert Creeley to me however, was something I heard him say back in 1963, to the effect that when a man begins to love himself, love himself, to be in the world as he is in it, then things begin to happen to him that are interesting. Now, this is a statement, which is enigmatic in its syntax and yet still spells out what I think you will find interesting about Robert Creeley tonight, that is that he's a man whose poems are close to the process of living. He will be able to give you information in his poems about this process. His poems are about someone who, no matter how difficult this process has become, has loved that particular moment of it. Now that Robert is supplied with cigarettes for the evening, he may as well begin.\n \nAudience\n00:01:43\nApplause [cut off].\n\nRobert Creeley\n00:01:48\nLet me. \"On Vacation\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:02:35\nReads \"On Vacation\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:02:55\nI'll read one more poem, I made it up all by myself, that's the only thing... \"Do You Think\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:03:03\nReads \"Do You Think...\" [published later in A Day Book].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:04:51\nIt's like a Latter Day [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42504]quote, no it's like a--I've got a noun [unintelligible].\n\nAudience \n00:05:01\nLaughter. \n\nRobert Creeley\n00:05:03\nThis has nothing in the glasses, nothing in the glass, that's the problem. I want to read, frankly an old and dear friend Robin Blaser [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2115003], an old and dear friend, a man I much respect and care for just happens to be in the room, I haven't seen him since, like, almost, it feels like 20 minutes ago. But I want therefore to read a few poems that are more recent in composition. \"The Act of Love\".\n\nRobert Creeley\n00:05:50\nReads \"The Act of Love\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:07:55\nThen I'd like to read another poem because frankly Robin is a very particular friend, and not will know simply the information I'm trying to get clear, but will know the, you know, you like to read for people, shit, you know. \"The Birds\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:08:19\nReads \"The Birds\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:09:58\nThen that--\"things seem empty on vacation, if the labors have not been physical, then, some awful grating sound as if some monstrous nose were being blown...\" [begins to read “On Vacation”]--no I've read that once, I won't read it again. But I wanted to read the most recent--I used to have, not an ambition, but I had a lovely sense of Allen Ginsberg's [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6711] freedom in writing, happily, he's been here not too long ago. And I mean, Allen is a true contemporary, simply that we were born within say, what he's born--his birthday is June 3rd and mine's May 23rd of 1926 and we're, you know, we're very close in time and space. I used to have a sense of not Allen's permission in writing, I mean that permission doesn't exist. I mean, you write what you are given thus to write, nobody designs this occasion, nobody has the authority of it, and I did in a weird way, I envied Allen's ability to be where that situation might occur, you know. Like he could really write any moment, any place, anywhere, and so recently flying. In fact, last week, flying out to Los Angeles, not to Los Angeles, to San Francisco, I'd been awfully harassed in particular dilemmas of responsibility and suddenly sitting on the plane. There was this delicious space, you know, made peace with the plane by drinking everything they would give you instantly and having entered with some. I remember watching Warren, an old, dear friend get on a plane with like, four double vodkas. You know, I said \"Warren, you're going to get drunk\". He said, “No I'm flying back to Vancouver”. Like you mistaked the occasion, you know. And so, I get on the plane, and I thought, “well I can do this too”. And I wrote, my Bobbie who is a friend indeed of Robin's and myself. I'm literally her husband and Robin is a friend in that, what am I? I'm not going to propose that we're--no, but I think it's true. It has nothing to do with fucking. It has to do with the ambiance and reality of another human being. I think we share that reality in her. And she had gotten ill, unhappily and in some unexpected manner and then happily is now okay, but it was a crazy moment of dilemma. \"An Illness\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:12:52\nReads \"An Illness\". \n \nRobert Creeley\n00:15:55\nAnd I'm going to read a few more for Robin, and then, \"The Problem\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:16:06\nReads \"The Problem\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:16:44\nReads \"The Tiger\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:17:09\nWhat is reality--this is crossed out--[Reads excerpted material from “The Tiger”]. “What is reality we thought, who is here, we could smell the freshness of the jungle growth and would have been eaten by the tiger were it hungry” [audience laughter]. It's all crossed out. I'll read, this is--\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:17:38\nReads unnamed poem.\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:18:33\n\"Not Being Dumb\"--this is, these are three things together.\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:18:36\nReads \"Not Being Dumb”.\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:19:38\nReads [\"Harry\"].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:19:46\nLet me just, may I just read around, because these are, like, poems of like the last few months. This was a poem that is variously titled \"Sweet Dreams, Good Harbor Beach\". This is a place in Gloucester [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q49156]. It therefore has a physical location.\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:20:04\nReads \"Sweet Dreams, Good Harbor Beach\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:21:15\nI want to read one sequence of, a cluster of particular writing, I won't even have the arrogance to say these are necessarily poems. But the, because I don't in that sense, these are a sequence called \"In London\". And I had, I'll tell you, physically, the circumstance was that I was in London [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q84?wprov=srpw1_0] for five days last summer for a particular activity and I have happily a number of friends in London. Therefore, generously and, actually my time is really filled with seeing particular friends or else having particular business to conduct, and that's one, frankly, one of the satisfactions of one sense of what my life has to do with its own occasion, to have use and to have place. Not to say, “Gee, you're back again. We've kept the table. We've kept the seat for you”. But to have an occasion that actually gives you place in the world is always a delight. And so therefore, I was there briefly and this particular morning, there was to have been a, actually, a recording and it turned out the circumstances of the recording hadn't worked out. So the people involved did not come and so there was a space of three hours in which I was staying at this friend's apartment in London on Wimpole Street, 76 Wimpole Street, just around Oxford Street. You know the neighborhood possibly. And it's a dazzling part of London for an American. Particularly, I mean, it's like Barrets and Wimpole Street and the whole bit, Paul McCartney [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2599?wprov=srpw1_0] had a place, like two blocks--did have a place two blocks--and the whole bit. You know, and it's very dazzling, and I was in this apartment and I was sleeping actually on the couch of this particular friend, and there were other beds available, but I did not manage. I was not aggressive, so therefore I slept on the couch. It was a heavy time for everybody, and I was thinking of Jim dying, you know whose “A Retrospective of the Whitney” has just opened. And I was staying, actually, with the wife of a publisher who happily I have in London, John Calder [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6224786] and Marion Boyars [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18674153]. I was thinking of John Calder's apartment and John and his wife unhappily were having a, I mean, it's ridiculous, I'm not going to rehearse the whole situation of their lives, man. Like we've got enough to enter my own in that way, but the point is that I was sleeping on their couch, right? Everybody had left for their various activities and I was to meet these people to come in and set up this recording equipment and have this scene, and they didn't show up. And I had literally like two or three hours just in that apartment. I was padding around the place in my jammies, feeling beautifully luxurious and relaxed in London, you know, like digging out the window. I'd been the night previous reading at an International Festival of Poetry on a beautiful occasion, and I'd gone over. Jim Dine [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q531234] is frankly a friend from the States and I'd called him up, he's living in, where the hell does he live, Grosvenor square [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q932992], he's like in that district. He's living next to the Uruguay Embassy, like it's a very- he's running a house that somebody is trying to sell, but they can't find an appropriate buyer. Mick Jagger [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q128121] wanted to buy the house, but they didn't want a rock singer, and then the Nigerian Embassy wanted to buy the house but they didn't want to sell, you know. It was a whole trip. So Jim Dine has maintained the premises. So I go there and say \"Terrific\" and \"Wow\". We do the whole American bit, which is frankly to get over excited instantly, and to eat, drink, and be merry with an absolute insistence. And we're now driving over to make the Royal Festival Arts blah, blah, blah scene. And for an American it's a heady trip. I'm going to read now in company with the company of four other people, as part of the International Festival of Poetry and they're having this scene at a place, those of you who know London, they're having a scene at the Queen Elizabeth Hall [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1622428], that's part of the festival, you know like, complexes across the Thames [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19686] from the Parliamentary buildings, Tower of London [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q62378], all that. So we're driving  through late London afternoon in July, delicious, I mean, the sun is fading in over those buildings the whole, oh wow, you know, just blow your mind. It's just fantastically tender and real, and that's where Raleigh [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q189144] was imprisoned in the Tower, and that's you know, fantastic. We arrive in absolutely pristine condition, and it took about two minutes to 'x' it all out. So the first two poems--it says “Festival Hall London”, like a note to myself on the side, and the first two poems--like the unrelieved tedium of the evening was just fantastic. I talked to a reporter of like a red rag, a socialist paper in London later. He said, “I don't see any reason why you should show up, Mr. Creeley, before you're required, your presence is literally required”. You know, so I said, “Do you really think that's possible? Do you think I really could do that?”. He said “I don't see any reason why your condition and duty doesn't permit that kind of occasion”, and I said “The hardest thing man is to sit there for like, it isn't the tedium of the people, it's the tedium of the occasion, it's like all these people. I have to have a rock in my pants that I thought it was hashish but it's actually three million, billion years old, it's a worm. We've got time, right?”. So he said “You don't have to”--what was your experience--he's trying to get some, you know he's trying to get some sense of the work as we're not permitted into the reading or something [audience laughter] and I quote the work as we're like generously absent from the reading, like you don't have to do that too, there's going to be a condition of that experience. \"In London\"\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:28:30\nReads \"In London\" [from In London]. \n\nRobert Creeley\n00:28:39\nThis was, like in this absolutely [unintelligible] environment you suddenly look around and see this exit, exit, exit sign red, exit, exit, exit, exit. There was a titter that ran through the audience and then there was nothing more. \"Cards\". This is now back in the apartment.\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:28:58\nResumes reading \"In London\" [from In London]. \n \nRobert Creeley\n00:30:03\nNow, I'll read the crossed out portions. \"There are people in the sky, now you see them, now you don't, won't you take me to my home, and let me play among the stars. The final fears of all the years are met in you tonight.\" This is, this flows out on vague rhythms. “12:30” written as Arabic numerals, read as 12:30 words.\n \nRobert Creeley \n00:30:30.\nResumes reading \"In London” [from In London].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:30:36\n[Interrupts reading]. You know that scene when you're in a city and know one or two people, keep calling up, \"Well, Ted is sober\", [unintelligible] [audience laughter] and I said \"Man, I was there, I know how tired he is, I'm awake\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:30:50\nResumes reading \"In London” [from In London].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:30:59\n[Interrupts reading]. This was a girl who played the lead in The Beard, actually, in the initial San Francisco [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q62] production who was now working in London playing the same part. Lovely young woman, Billy, trying to remember her last name, very soft and pleasant...\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:31:15\nResumes reading \"In London” [from In London].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:31:20\n[Interrupts reading]. Let me interpolate, Chamberlain [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q468760] at one point had a weird erotic scene where they were making love by telephone. Have you ever tried that number? So John was was making things like sperm omelet, like he really, somehow it arrived in his madness of mid age, and decided that he was really going to go for broke in terms of sexual possibility. You ever see a man from Indiana take off on the possibilities of sexual endeavor? It's like- so John, Ultra Violet was the perfect foil for this condition. Ultra Violet [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q272994], if you've seen, you must have seen her on the Merv Griffin Show [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3404046], Ultra Violet like is like the most humorless, John had a tape of her singing \"The Fool on the Hill'' [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1920202] that went on for weeks. It was like years would pass by. “Ze fool on ze hill”, you know. With this incredibly corny french accent. \"Ze fool on ze hill\" I remember, and he had a scene where they would make love like- I remember one time, the only, the first time I met- oh christ, I'm suddenly flipped out in my own mind, oh hell. It's ridiculous. Well, see, John had a studio on 13th Street and First Avenue, and Larry Rubens had a studio also, and a Japanese girl had a studio, and upstairs was like, directly over John's studio was, oh hell, who's the obvious sculpture, someone supply me with a name, it's ridiculous, the greatest imagination in the arts today in terms of this environment, [audience suggests name] Pardon? No, not Segal [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q703624]. Like Oldenburg [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q156731], Claes Oldenburg. Claes Oldenburg lived upstairs and then he was still with his wife, his crazy factory, the industry, like making the ghosts, I mean they were making the mock-ups of the particular sculptures he was involved in and John, for example, would like wake up, you'd hear like- I spent nights in John's place and you'd hear the radio would turn on, in the morning, like to station k-whatever it was and then you'd hear them moving around getting breakfast and then hear the sewing machine start and the day would begin and Claes Oldenburg has a crazy serious humorous, like the peculiar to my- I was talking to someone about being, you know, coming from Nova Scotia [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1952], or New Brunswick [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1965] or St. John's [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2082] I mean like the [unintelligible] scene is very displaced by that Scandinavian economy, you know, of experience. So John was- do things like one night for an example, he and Ultra Violet had this thing going with the telephone and she called him and he happened to be out and she just let the phone ring. The phone rang from 11:00 to 7 in the morning [laughter.] Like it just keeps ringing. I remember I met Claes Oldenburg that morning, he said \"John, someone was trying to call you last night\" [laughter] and John says \"Yeah, I know.\" It was lovely, yeah. “I got the message”. And that was all either one of them said.\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:35:21\nResumes reading \"In London” [from In London].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:37:41\n[Interrupts reading]. Then in the actual text there's a point that it's been in print actually for fifteen years in paperback. Somehow, nobody, the friends that we had didn't curiously notice. His reminiscences of Tolstoy [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7243] in London [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q84], for example. Have you ever read Gorky's [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12706] Reminiscences of Tolstoy? Fantastic book. \"Wish I were home\"...doesn't just turn you on informationally, it turns you on to conditions of experience, I hope.\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:38:08\nResumes reading “In London” [from In London].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:39:30\nI wonder what this is, \"Aside, aside\", [unintelligible], February, Spring day, it's from California [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q99].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:39:46\nReads [“That Day” from In London].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:39:51\n[Interrupts reading]. See, I love that \"And that day, in an oak tree, falls way, comes here\", I love that “interup-tions”.\n\nRobert Creeley\n00:40:00\nResumes reading [“That  Day” from In London].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:40:04\n[Interrupts reading]. I love that play of language.\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:40:07\nResumes reading [“That  Day” from In London].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:40:54\nThat I, this was a--one time back in the earlier part of the 60's, Ginsberg [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6711] was given a tape recorder by Bob Dylan [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q392] and when they were both in San Francisco [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q62]. Dylan gave Allen a Uher tape recorder and they had been in San Francisco, now Allen went down to Los Angeles [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q65] and he talked to people like Gerald Heard [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1606714], he had long conversations with Lenny Bruce [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q460876], and he also went to see Maria Huxley, and he was particularly interested as to what were Huxley's, not merely, he knew what Huxley died of, Huxley died of cancer in a factual and actual manner. But he was very interested into what was Huxley's not state, like he didn't want to hear his last words in some awful sense, but he wanted to know what kind of experience of death Huxley had had. And if this particular experience of death had been in any way informed by the circumstance of experience that Huxley had begun to be more and more involved with as he grew older, namely acid and the transformation, not the transformation but the particularization of experience that he found in the psychedelic so-called drugs. And so he asked Maria Huxley the very obvious question, “was Huxley on acid when he died? Did he take acid previous to his death?” And she said, “well, he had asked that when he was thus conscious. I mean he did go into a coma. He did have a float, physically, and he asked that he have acid available. I mean that the cap of acid be place conveniently by the bed, and that he would obviously determine when and as and if he wanted to take it. It would be there. It would be like an aspirin, like a glass of water,” and she said that roughly half an hour previous to his physical death, he took acid. And then Allen asked the other obvious question, did he say anything? Did he say anything of the experience of the circumstance? She said, no he didn't, he said nothing. But this is a woman who'd lived obviously with this man for a particular length of time and had information specifically, she said no, but there was this beatific smile, he was attending his own, you know, like he was attending, not the apocalypse, but the phenomenality of his own dispersion into you know other states of being, with the agency that's created.\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:43:49\nReads [section of “Little Time--And Place” from In London]. \n \nRobert Creeley\n00:44:05\nI want to read one last poem from this text, and then I'll go back to books you may know. \"A Wall\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:44:15\nReads \"A Wall\".\n \nUnknown\n00:45:20\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of  time elapsed].\n\nRobert Creeley\n00:45:22\n..simply identifies the title of the book that you're referring to and the name of the man who wrote it. \n\nUnknown\n00:45:25\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\n\nRobert Creeley\n00:45:26\n...he didn't want to make it hard for anybody, certainly didn't want to make it thus easy. But, particular information was always of that nature, you couldn't describe it, you certainly couldn't make it a convenience, so that the actuation of it for you always had to be the particular resource and fact of your own--I mean, it had to be that you did know it. It wasn't like one-upping, \"Gee, you don't know the name of the capital of Madagascar\" [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1019?wprov=srpw1_0], like I don't know the name of the capital of Madagascar, is there a capital of Madagascar? I guess, you couldn't. That wasn't the condition, but if something was there to be known, that was of some particular interest to him, he gave you the fact of that interest and the substance of that interest, but he didn't give you the convenience of that interest, you had not merely to track his experience into it, but you had to get there, like you had to get there by your own agency. But I think I could--someone said, like man, like the dots in this particular book, pieces, and there's a lovely remark by Ed Dorn [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5334756] whom I dearly love, he said you know, that sense of the pieces of the definition, [unintelligible] of the parts of some of the imagined whole, which these pieces are then the fragments or the parts of, then he says, he effectually suggests, think of a situation where the pieces do not compose that possible containment, the parts that do not necessarily relate and or have the substance of the whole thus to inform them. Like now, you're really in a hole, dig. And his definition of tradition: that which someone comes carrying the information of, literally, he got there, with the news. So the dots in this book, the three dots, those of you who are interested in these explications of text, these three dots simply indicate the intervals of a particular sitting, or a particular, you know literally, you see how this is written, it's like in a notebook, well what was written on a particular day would be separated in this text by three dots, you know, like usually the particular things written would be separated by one dot then when another day occurred there'd be three dots, I mean it's a very rudimentary division.\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:47:53\nReads \"The which it was\" [from Pieces].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:49:15\n\"Re Bob's Film (CUT)\", this was a movie done, friend--this is not even interesting, this is an 8 mm film called \"Cut\".\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:49:23\nReads \"Re Bob's Film (CUT)\" [from Pieces].\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:51:53\nI want to skip, like I want to skip to the end of this book and read frankly, if I may for a close, let me read a sequence called \"Mazatlan: Sea\" which comes together as a close to this particular book and is writing of the same order.\n \nRobert Creeley\n00:52:15\nReads \"Mazatlan: Sea\" [from Pieces].\n \nEND\n01:07:47\n"],"Note":["[{\"note\":\"Year-Specific Information: \\n\\nRobert Creeley tenured as a full professor at SUNY Buffalo in 1967, edited The New Writing in the USA with Don Allen, and published Words and The Charm: Early and Uncollected Poems.  Creeley attended the London International Poetry Festival in July of 1967\",\"type\":\"General\"},{\"note\":\"Local Connections: \\n\\nCreeley had ties with Irving Layton through the Black Mountain Review in the 50’s. Creeley moved to Vancouver to work at the University of British Columbia in 1960-61. He had contacts with Phyllis Webb and Irving Layton. Creeley was George Bowering’s Master's thesis advisor at University of British Columbia until 1963, and wrote introductions for Bowering’s poetry. He came to visit Montreal and Sir George Williams University the same year Layton was poet in residence, after years of correspondence.\",\"type\":\"General\"},{\"note\":\"Original transcript, research, introduction and edits by Celyn Harding-Jones\\n\\nAdditional research and edits by Sarah McDonnell and Ali Barillaro\",\"type\":\"Cataloguer\"},{\"note\":\"Reel-to-reel tape>CD>digital file\",\"type\":\"Preservation\"}]"],"Related_works":["[{\"url\":\"https://www.worldcat.org/title/collected-poems-of-robert-creeley/oclc/1151730303&referer=brief_results\",\"citation\":\"Creeley, Robert, and Penelope Creeley. The Collected Poems of Robert Creeley: 1945-1975. University of California Press, 2006. \"},{\"url\":\"https://www.worldcat.org/title/was-that-a-real-poem-other-essays/oclc/247870873&referer=brief_results#reviews\",\"citation\":\"Creeley, Robert; Allen, Donald; Novik, Mary. Was That a Real Poem and Other Essays. 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What has really introduced Robert Creeley to me however, was something I heard him say back in 1963, to the effect that when a man begins to love himself, love himself, to be in the world as he is in it, then things begin to happen to him that are interesting. Now, this is a statement, which is enigmatic in its syntax and yet still spells out what I think you will find interesting about Robert Creeley tonight, that is that he's a man whose poems are close to the process of living. He will be able to give you information in his poems about this process. His poems are about someone who, no matter how difficult this process has become, has loved that particular moment of it. Now that Robert is supplied with cigarettes for the evening, he may as well begin.\\n \\nAudience\\n00:01:43\\nApplause [cut off].\\n\\nRobert Creeley\\n00:01:48\\nLet me. \\\"On Vacation\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:02:35\\nReads \\\"On Vacation\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:02:55\\nI'll read one more poem, I made it up all by myself, that's the only thing... \\\"Do You Think\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:03:03\\nReads \\\"Do You Think...\\\" [published later in A Day Book].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:04:51\\nIt's like a Latter Day [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42504]quote, no it's like a--I've got a noun [unintelligible].\\n\\nAudience \\n00:05:01\\nLaughter. \\n\\nRobert Creeley\\n00:05:03\\nThis has nothing in the glasses, nothing in the glass, that's the problem. I want to read, frankly an old and dear friend Robin Blaser [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2115003], an old and dear friend, a man I much respect and care for just happens to be in the room, I haven't seen him since, like, almost, it feels like 20 minutes ago. But I want therefore to read a few poems that are more recent in composition. \\\"The Act of Love\\\".\\n\\nRobert Creeley\\n00:05:50\\nReads \\\"The Act of Love\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:07:55\\nThen I'd like to read another poem because frankly Robin is a very particular friend, and not will know simply the information I'm trying to get clear, but will know the, you know, you like to read for people, shit, you know. \\\"The Birds\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:08:19\\nReads \\\"The Birds\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:09:58\\nThen that--\\\"things seem empty on vacation, if the labors have not been physical, then, some awful grating sound as if some monstrous nose were being blown...\\\" [begins to read “On Vacation”]--no I've read that once, I won't read it again. But I wanted to read the most recent--I used to have, not an ambition, but I had a lovely sense of Allen Ginsberg's [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6711] freedom in writing, happily, he's been here not too long ago. And I mean, Allen is a true contemporary, simply that we were born within say, what he's born--his birthday is June 3rd and mine's May 23rd of 1926 and we're, you know, we're very close in time and space. I used to have a sense of not Allen's permission in writing, I mean that permission doesn't exist. I mean, you write what you are given thus to write, nobody designs this occasion, nobody has the authority of it, and I did in a weird way, I envied Allen's ability to be where that situation might occur, you know. Like he could really write any moment, any place, anywhere, and so recently flying. In fact, last week, flying out to Los Angeles, not to Los Angeles, to San Francisco, I'd been awfully harassed in particular dilemmas of responsibility and suddenly sitting on the plane. There was this delicious space, you know, made peace with the plane by drinking everything they would give you instantly and having entered with some. I remember watching Warren, an old, dear friend get on a plane with like, four double vodkas. You know, I said \\\"Warren, you're going to get drunk\\\". He said, “No I'm flying back to Vancouver”. Like you mistaked the occasion, you know. And so, I get on the plane, and I thought, “well I can do this too”. And I wrote, my Bobbie who is a friend indeed of Robin's and myself. I'm literally her husband and Robin is a friend in that, what am I? I'm not going to propose that we're--no, but I think it's true. It has nothing to do with fucking. It has to do with the ambiance and reality of another human being. I think we share that reality in her. And she had gotten ill, unhappily and in some unexpected manner and then happily is now okay, but it was a crazy moment of dilemma. \\\"An Illness\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:12:52\\nReads \\\"An Illness\\\". \\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:15:55\\nAnd I'm going to read a few more for Robin, and then, \\\"The Problem\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:16:06\\nReads \\\"The Problem\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:16:44\\nReads \\\"The Tiger\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:17:09\\nWhat is reality--this is crossed out--[Reads excerpted material from “The Tiger”]. “What is reality we thought, who is here, we could smell the freshness of the jungle growth and would have been eaten by the tiger were it hungry” [audience laughter]. It's all crossed out. I'll read, this is--\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:17:38\\nReads unnamed poem.\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:18:33\\n\\\"Not Being Dumb\\\"--this is, these are three things together.\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:18:36\\nReads \\\"Not Being Dumb”.\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:19:38\\nReads [\\\"Harry\\\"].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:19:46\\nLet me just, may I just read around, because these are, like, poems of like the last few months. This was a poem that is variously titled \\\"Sweet Dreams, Good Harbor Beach\\\". This is a place in Gloucester [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q49156]. It therefore has a physical location.\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:20:04\\nReads \\\"Sweet Dreams, Good Harbor Beach\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:21:15\\nI want to read one sequence of, a cluster of particular writing, I won't even have the arrogance to say these are necessarily poems. But the, because I don't in that sense, these are a sequence called \\\"In London\\\". And I had, I'll tell you, physically, the circumstance was that I was in London [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q84?wprov=srpw1_0] for five days last summer for a particular activity and I have happily a number of friends in London. Therefore, generously and, actually my time is really filled with seeing particular friends or else having particular business to conduct, and that's one, frankly, one of the satisfactions of one sense of what my life has to do with its own occasion, to have use and to have place. Not to say, “Gee, you're back again. We've kept the table. We've kept the seat for you”. But to have an occasion that actually gives you place in the world is always a delight. And so therefore, I was there briefly and this particular morning, there was to have been a, actually, a recording and it turned out the circumstances of the recording hadn't worked out. So the people involved did not come and so there was a space of three hours in which I was staying at this friend's apartment in London on Wimpole Street, 76 Wimpole Street, just around Oxford Street. You know the neighborhood possibly. And it's a dazzling part of London for an American. Particularly, I mean, it's like Barrets and Wimpole Street and the whole bit, Paul McCartney [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2599?wprov=srpw1_0] had a place, like two blocks--did have a place two blocks--and the whole bit. You know, and it's very dazzling, and I was in this apartment and I was sleeping actually on the couch of this particular friend, and there were other beds available, but I did not manage. I was not aggressive, so therefore I slept on the couch. It was a heavy time for everybody, and I was thinking of Jim dying, you know whose “A Retrospective of the Whitney” has just opened. And I was staying, actually, with the wife of a publisher who happily I have in London, John Calder [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6224786] and Marion Boyars [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18674153]. I was thinking of John Calder's apartment and John and his wife unhappily were having a, I mean, it's ridiculous, I'm not going to rehearse the whole situation of their lives, man. Like we've got enough to enter my own in that way, but the point is that I was sleeping on their couch, right? Everybody had left for their various activities and I was to meet these people to come in and set up this recording equipment and have this scene, and they didn't show up. And I had literally like two or three hours just in that apartment. I was padding around the place in my jammies, feeling beautifully luxurious and relaxed in London, you know, like digging out the window. I'd been the night previous reading at an International Festival of Poetry on a beautiful occasion, and I'd gone over. Jim Dine [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q531234] is frankly a friend from the States and I'd called him up, he's living in, where the hell does he live, Grosvenor square [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q932992], he's like in that district. He's living next to the Uruguay Embassy, like it's a very- he's running a house that somebody is trying to sell, but they can't find an appropriate buyer. Mick Jagger [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q128121] wanted to buy the house, but they didn't want a rock singer, and then the Nigerian Embassy wanted to buy the house but they didn't want to sell, you know. It was a whole trip. So Jim Dine has maintained the premises. So I go there and say \\\"Terrific\\\" and \\\"Wow\\\". We do the whole American bit, which is frankly to get over excited instantly, and to eat, drink, and be merry with an absolute insistence. And we're now driving over to make the Royal Festival Arts blah, blah, blah scene. And for an American it's a heady trip. I'm going to read now in company with the company of four other people, as part of the International Festival of Poetry and they're having this scene at a place, those of you who know London, they're having a scene at the Queen Elizabeth Hall [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1622428], that's part of the festival, you know like, complexes across the Thames [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19686] from the Parliamentary buildings, Tower of London [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q62378], all that. So we're driving  through late London afternoon in July, delicious, I mean, the sun is fading in over those buildings the whole, oh wow, you know, just blow your mind. It's just fantastically tender and real, and that's where Raleigh [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q189144] was imprisoned in the Tower, and that's you know, fantastic. We arrive in absolutely pristine condition, and it took about two minutes to 'x' it all out. So the first two poems--it says “Festival Hall London”, like a note to myself on the side, and the first two poems--like the unrelieved tedium of the evening was just fantastic. I talked to a reporter of like a red rag, a socialist paper in London later. He said, “I don't see any reason why you should show up, Mr. Creeley, before you're required, your presence is literally required”. You know, so I said, “Do you really think that's possible? Do you think I really could do that?”. He said “I don't see any reason why your condition and duty doesn't permit that kind of occasion”, and I said “The hardest thing man is to sit there for like, it isn't the tedium of the people, it's the tedium of the occasion, it's like all these people. I have to have a rock in my pants that I thought it was hashish but it's actually three million, billion years old, it's a worm. We've got time, right?”. So he said “You don't have to”--what was your experience--he's trying to get some, you know he's trying to get some sense of the work as we're not permitted into the reading or something [audience laughter] and I quote the work as we're like generously absent from the reading, like you don't have to do that too, there's going to be a condition of that experience. \\\"In London\\\"\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:28:30\\nReads \\\"In London\\\" [from In London]. \\n\\nRobert Creeley\\n00:28:39\\nThis was, like in this absolutely [unintelligible] environment you suddenly look around and see this exit, exit, exit sign red, exit, exit, exit, exit. There was a titter that ran through the audience and then there was nothing more. \\\"Cards\\\". This is now back in the apartment.\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:28:58\\nResumes reading \\\"In London\\\" [from In London]. \\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:30:03\\nNow, I'll read the crossed out portions. \\\"There are people in the sky, now you see them, now you don't, won't you take me to my home, and let me play among the stars. The final fears of all the years are met in you tonight.\\\" This is, this flows out on vague rhythms. “12:30” written as Arabic numerals, read as 12:30 words.\\n \\nRobert Creeley \\n00:30:30.\\nResumes reading \\\"In London” [from In London].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:30:36\\n[Interrupts reading]. You know that scene when you're in a city and know one or two people, keep calling up, \\\"Well, Ted is sober\\\", [unintelligible] [audience laughter] and I said \\\"Man, I was there, I know how tired he is, I'm awake\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:30:50\\nResumes reading \\\"In London” [from In London].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:30:59\\n[Interrupts reading]. This was a girl who played the lead in The Beard, actually, in the initial San Francisco [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q62] production who was now working in London playing the same part. Lovely young woman, Billy, trying to remember her last name, very soft and pleasant...\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:31:15\\nResumes reading \\\"In London” [from In London].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:31:20\\n[Interrupts reading]. Let me interpolate, Chamberlain [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q468760] at one point had a weird erotic scene where they were making love by telephone. Have you ever tried that number? So John was was making things like sperm omelet, like he really, somehow it arrived in his madness of mid age, and decided that he was really going to go for broke in terms of sexual possibility. You ever see a man from Indiana take off on the possibilities of sexual endeavor? It's like- so John, Ultra Violet was the perfect foil for this condition. Ultra Violet [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q272994], if you've seen, you must have seen her on the Merv Griffin Show [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3404046], Ultra Violet like is like the most humorless, John had a tape of her singing \\\"The Fool on the Hill'' [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1920202] that went on for weeks. It was like years would pass by. “Ze fool on ze hill”, you know. With this incredibly corny french accent. \\\"Ze fool on ze hill\\\" I remember, and he had a scene where they would make love like- I remember one time, the only, the first time I met- oh christ, I'm suddenly flipped out in my own mind, oh hell. It's ridiculous. Well, see, John had a studio on 13th Street and First Avenue, and Larry Rubens had a studio also, and a Japanese girl had a studio, and upstairs was like, directly over John's studio was, oh hell, who's the obvious sculpture, someone supply me with a name, it's ridiculous, the greatest imagination in the arts today in terms of this environment, [audience suggests name] Pardon? No, not Segal [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q703624]. Like Oldenburg [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q156731], Claes Oldenburg. Claes Oldenburg lived upstairs and then he was still with his wife, his crazy factory, the industry, like making the ghosts, I mean they were making the mock-ups of the particular sculptures he was involved in and John, for example, would like wake up, you'd hear like- I spent nights in John's place and you'd hear the radio would turn on, in the morning, like to station k-whatever it was and then you'd hear them moving around getting breakfast and then hear the sewing machine start and the day would begin and Claes Oldenburg has a crazy serious humorous, like the peculiar to my- I was talking to someone about being, you know, coming from Nova Scotia [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1952], or New Brunswick [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1965] or St. John's [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2082] I mean like the [unintelligible] scene is very displaced by that Scandinavian economy, you know, of experience. So John was- do things like one night for an example, he and Ultra Violet had this thing going with the telephone and she called him and he happened to be out and she just let the phone ring. The phone rang from 11:00 to 7 in the morning [laughter.] Like it just keeps ringing. I remember I met Claes Oldenburg that morning, he said \\\"John, someone was trying to call you last night\\\" [laughter] and John says \\\"Yeah, I know.\\\" It was lovely, yeah. “I got the message”. And that was all either one of them said.\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:35:21\\nResumes reading \\\"In London” [from In London].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:37:41\\n[Interrupts reading]. Then in the actual text there's a point that it's been in print actually for fifteen years in paperback. Somehow, nobody, the friends that we had didn't curiously notice. His reminiscences of Tolstoy [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7243] in London [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q84], for example. Have you ever read Gorky's [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12706] Reminiscences of Tolstoy? Fantastic book. \\\"Wish I were home\\\"...doesn't just turn you on informationally, it turns you on to conditions of experience, I hope.\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:38:08\\nResumes reading “In London” [from In London].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:39:30\\nI wonder what this is, \\\"Aside, aside\\\", [unintelligible], February, Spring day, it's from California [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q99].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:39:46\\nReads [“That Day” from In London].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:39:51\\n[Interrupts reading]. See, I love that \\\"And that day, in an oak tree, falls way, comes here\\\", I love that “interup-tions”.\\n\\nRobert Creeley\\n00:40:00\\nResumes reading [“That  Day” from In London].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:40:04\\n[Interrupts reading]. I love that play of language.\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:40:07\\nResumes reading [“That  Day” from In London].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:40:54\\nThat I, this was a--one time back in the earlier part of the 60's, Ginsberg [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6711] was given a tape recorder by Bob Dylan [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q392] and when they were both in San Francisco [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q62]. Dylan gave Allen a Uher tape recorder and they had been in San Francisco, now Allen went down to Los Angeles [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q65] and he talked to people like Gerald Heard [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1606714], he had long conversations with Lenny Bruce [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q460876], and he also went to see Maria Huxley, and he was particularly interested as to what were Huxley's, not merely, he knew what Huxley died of, Huxley died of cancer in a factual and actual manner. But he was very interested into what was Huxley's not state, like he didn't want to hear his last words in some awful sense, but he wanted to know what kind of experience of death Huxley had had. And if this particular experience of death had been in any way informed by the circumstance of experience that Huxley had begun to be more and more involved with as he grew older, namely acid and the transformation, not the transformation but the particularization of experience that he found in the psychedelic so-called drugs. And so he asked Maria Huxley the very obvious question, “was Huxley on acid when he died? Did he take acid previous to his death?” And she said, “well, he had asked that when he was thus conscious. I mean he did go into a coma. He did have a float, physically, and he asked that he have acid available. I mean that the cap of acid be place conveniently by the bed, and that he would obviously determine when and as and if he wanted to take it. It would be there. It would be like an aspirin, like a glass of water,” and she said that roughly half an hour previous to his physical death, he took acid. And then Allen asked the other obvious question, did he say anything? Did he say anything of the experience of the circumstance? She said, no he didn't, he said nothing. But this is a woman who'd lived obviously with this man for a particular length of time and had information specifically, she said no, but there was this beatific smile, he was attending his own, you know, like he was attending, not the apocalypse, but the phenomenality of his own dispersion into you know other states of being, with the agency that's created.\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:43:49\\nReads [section of “Little Time--And Place” from In London]. \\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:44:05\\nI want to read one last poem from this text, and then I'll go back to books you may know. \\\"A Wall\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:44:15\\nReads \\\"A Wall\\\".\\n \\nUnknown\\n00:45:20\\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of  time elapsed].\\n\\nRobert Creeley\\n00:45:22\\n..simply identifies the title of the book that you're referring to and the name of the man who wrote it. \\n\\nUnknown\\n00:45:25\\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\\n\\nRobert Creeley\\n00:45:26\\n...he didn't want to make it hard for anybody, certainly didn't want to make it thus easy. But, particular information was always of that nature, you couldn't describe it, you certainly couldn't make it a convenience, so that the actuation of it for you always had to be the particular resource and fact of your own--I mean, it had to be that you did know it. It wasn't like one-upping, \\\"Gee, you don't know the name of the capital of Madagascar\\\" [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1019?wprov=srpw1_0], like I don't know the name of the capital of Madagascar, is there a capital of Madagascar? I guess, you couldn't. That wasn't the condition, but if something was there to be known, that was of some particular interest to him, he gave you the fact of that interest and the substance of that interest, but he didn't give you the convenience of that interest, you had not merely to track his experience into it, but you had to get there, like you had to get there by your own agency. But I think I could--someone said, like man, like the dots in this particular book, pieces, and there's a lovely remark by Ed Dorn [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5334756] whom I dearly love, he said you know, that sense of the pieces of the definition, [unintelligible] of the parts of some of the imagined whole, which these pieces are then the fragments or the parts of, then he says, he effectually suggests, think of a situation where the pieces do not compose that possible containment, the parts that do not necessarily relate and or have the substance of the whole thus to inform them. Like now, you're really in a hole, dig. And his definition of tradition: that which someone comes carrying the information of, literally, he got there, with the news. So the dots in this book, the three dots, those of you who are interested in these explications of text, these three dots simply indicate the intervals of a particular sitting, or a particular, you know literally, you see how this is written, it's like in a notebook, well what was written on a particular day would be separated in this text by three dots, you know, like usually the particular things written would be separated by one dot then when another day occurred there'd be three dots, I mean it's a very rudimentary division.\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:47:53\\nReads \\\"The which it was\\\" [from Pieces].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:49:15\\n\\\"Re Bob's Film (CUT)\\\", this was a movie done, friend--this is not even interesting, this is an 8 mm film called \\\"Cut\\\".\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:49:23\\nReads \\\"Re Bob's Film (CUT)\\\" [from Pieces].\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:51:53\\nI want to skip, like I want to skip to the end of this book and read frankly, if I may for a close, let me read a sequence called \\\"Mazatlan: Sea\\\" which comes together as a close to this particular book and is writing of the same order.\\n \\nRobert Creeley\\n00:52:15\\nReads \\\"Mazatlan: Sea\\\" [from Pieces].\\n \\nEND\\n01:07:47\\n\",\"notes\":\"Robert Creeley reads from Pieces (Scribner, 1969), In London (Angel Hair Books, 1970), and  from other unknown sources.\\n\\n00:00- Unknown male introduces Robert Creeley. [INDEX: Black Mountain Poet, Robert        \\tDuncan, Charles Olson]\\n02:35- Reads “On Vacation”\\n02:55- Introduces “Do You Think”\\n03:03- Reads “Do You Think”\\n04:51- Introduces “The Act of Love” [INDEX: Robin Blaser]\\n05:50- Reads “The Act of Love”\\n07:55- Introduces “The Birds” [INDEX: Robin Blaser]\\n08:19- Reads “The Birds”\\n09:58- Introduces “An Illness” [INDEX: Allen Ginsberg, San Francisco, Warren [unknown last name], Bobby Louise Hall, Robin Blaser]\\n12:52- Reads “An Illness”\\n15:55- Introduces “The Problem” [INDEX: Robin Blaser]\\n16:06- Reads “The Problem”\\n16:44- Reads “The Tiger”\\n17:09- Reads deleted material from “The Tiger”\\n17:38- Reads first line “We resolved to think of ourselves...”\\n18:33- Introduces “Not Being Dumb”\\n18:36- Reads “Not Being Dumb”\\n19:38- Reads “Harry”\\n19:46- Introduces “Sweet Dreams, Good Harbor Beach”\\n20:04- Reads “Sweet Dreams, Good Harbor Beach”\\n21:15- Introduces “In London” [INDEX: London, 76 Wimphole Street, Oxford Street, Barrets   Street, Paul McCartney, Whitney Museum of American Art,  Publisher John Calder,    \\tMaron Boyars, International Festival of Poetry in London, Jim Dine, Grosvenor Square,    Uruguay Embassy, Mic Jagger, Nigerian Embassy, Royal Festival of Arts, Queen \\tElizabeth Hall, Raleigh imprisoned in the London Tower, socialist paper journalist]\\n28:25- Reads “In London” [with interruptions during poem]\\n28:55- Introduces “Cards”\\n28:58- Reads “Cards”\\n29:14- Reads “Small Dreams”\\n29:53- Reads “Homesick, Etc”\\n30:03- Reads deleted section from “Homesick, Etc” and Introduces “This Flows Out On Vague         Rhythms”\\n30:30- Reads “This Flows Out On Vague Rhythms”\\n30:36- Interrupts poem with explanation\\n30:50- Continues reading\\n30:59- Interrupts poem with explanation\\n31:15- Continues reading\\n31:20- Interrupts poem with explanation [INDEX: John Chamberlain, Ultra Violet, Merv Griffons Show, Chamberlain’s studio on 13th Street and 1st Avenue New York City, Larry        \\tRubens [sp?], Sculptor Claes Oldenburg]\\n35:21- Continues reading [line “Thinking of Chamberlain and Ultra Violet talking the night     \\taway”...]\\n37:41- Interrupts poem with explanation [INDEX: Maxin Gorky’s Reminiscences of Tolstoy]\\n38:08- Reads “Wish I Were Home”\\n39:30- Introduces “Aside, Aside”\\n39:46- Reads “Aside, Aside”\\n38:51- Interrupts poem with explanation\\n40:00- Continues reading\\n40:04- Interrupts poem with explanation\\n40:07- Continues reading\\n40:54- Introduces poem, first line “Fine manners, weathers, cars and people...” [INDEX:     \\tAllen Ginsberg, Bob Dylan, San Francisco, Uher tape, Los Angeles, Gerald Heard, Lenny      \\tBruce, Maria Huxley, Aldous Huxley’s death, experiences on acid]\\n43:49- Reads first line “Fine manners, weathers, cars and people...”\\n44:05- Introduces “A Wall”\\n44:15- Reads “A Wall”\\n45:14- Cut in tape, explains parts of his book, A Wall [INDEX: Ed Dorn, A Wall]\\n47:53- Reads first line “The which it was form seen there...”\\n49:15- Introduces “Ray Bob’s Film Cut”\\n49:23- Reads “Ray Bob’s Film Cut”\\n51:53- Introduces “Mazatlan: Sea”\\n52:15- Reads “Mazatlan: Sea”\\n1:07:47.09- END OF RECORDING\",\"title\":\"\",\"credit\":\"\",\"caption\":\"\",\"content_type\":\"Sound Recording\",\"featured\":\"Yes\",\"public_access_url\":\"https://montreal.spokenweb.ca/sgw-poetry-readings/robert-creeley-at-sgwu-1970/\"}]"],"score":2.5027869},{"id":"6474","cataloger_name":["Isabella,Wang"],"partnerInstitution":["Simon Fraser University"],"collection_source_collection":["Gerry Gilbert Fonds"],"source_collection_label":["Gerry Gilbert Fonds"],"collection_contributing_unit":["SFU Library"],"source_collection_uri":[""],"collection_image_url":[""],"collection_source_collection_description":["The Gerry Gilbert Fonds collects materials from Vancouver poet Gerry Gilbert. 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