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It also includes some student papers in bound volumes and 63 sound recordings (80 audio reels) mainly composed of poetry readings (see the Concordia SpokenWeb project which uses this material) but also a few lectures given at SGWU. 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He received his B.A. in 1952 from the City College of New York and his M.A. in 1953 from the University of Michigan. Directly after graduation, Rothenberg enrolled in the military and served until 1955. He then worked on additional graduate work at Columbia University from 1956-1959. Rothenberg’s first collection of poetry, White Sun Black Sun (1960) was published through the small press Hawk’s Well Press, which he founded in 1958 to promote the works of young poets. He also edited the magazine Poems from a Floating World which ran from 1959-1964. At that time, Rothenberg began a long and influential career as a teacher of both Literature and Visual Arts; he worked at the City College of New York (1960-61), the Mannes College of Music (1961-1970), the University of California, San Diego (1971), and at the New School for Social Research (1971-72). Along with his poetry, Rothenberg translated the works of German postwar poets Paul Celan, Gunter Grass and Ingeborg Bachman; the translations influenced many of the poets of the Beat movement. Rothenberg then published his own poetry in The Seven Hells of the Jigoku Zoshi (Trobar, 1962), Sightings (Hawk’s Well, 1964), The Gorky Poems (El Corno Emplumado, 1966), Between: 1960-1963 (Fulcrum, 1967), Poland/1931, Part I (Unicorn Press, 1969), Poems for the Game of Silence (Dial, 1970), Seneca Journal, Midwinter (Singing Bone, 1975) and his popular anthology Shaking the Pumpkin: Traditional Poetry of the Indian North Americas (Doubleday, 1972). Rothenberg then taught at the University of Wisconsin (1974-77), the University of California, San Diego (1977-85), the State University of New York (SUNY) at Albany in 1986 and at Binghamton from 1986-1988, and finally at the University of California, San Diego. More of his poetry collections include Narratives and Realtheater Pieces (Braad, 1978), Poems for the Society of the Mystic Animals (Tetrad, 1979), Abulafia’s Circles (Membrane, 1979), Vienna Blood (New Directions, 1983), Altar Piece (Station Hill, 1982), That Dada Strain (New Directions, 1983), Khurbn & Other Poems (New Directions, 1989), Lorca Variations (New Directions, 1993) which won the PEN Oakland Josephine Miles Literary Award in 1994, Seedings (New Directions, 1996) and A Paradise of Poets (New Directions, 1999). Rothenberg has won, among many other honors, the Wenner-Gren Foundation for Anthropological Research grant in 1968, fellowships fro the Guggenheim Foundation in 1974 and the National Endowment for the Arts in 1976. His first collection of essays on poetics, Pre-Faces (New Directions, 1982) won the American Book Award that same year. 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Welcome back to the first night of the fourth year of our series. And for those of you who are here for the first time, welcome you too. I'm really glad that we could start off with Jerome Rothenberg [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1775056], especially from my own personal viewpoint, because while Jerome Rothenberg is one of the names that I've paid a lot of attention to, and one of the names that poets have paid attention to over the last decade, this'll be the first time that I've been able to hear him read, too. Usually when, often when us people from the West think about the new American poetry, we tend to think of it in terms of people from outposts such as New Mexico [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1522], and Utah, [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q829] and San Francisco [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q62], and so on. And we forget that New York City [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q60] is one of the centre-place, central-places, so that it can produce poets such as Joel Oppenheimer [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6213806] who will be here in the following spring, and Paul Blackburn [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7149388], who was here a couple of years ago. Jerome Rothenberg has always been the centre, in the centre of that scene, and not only as one of the principal poets, but as editor, and publisher, and so on and so forth, especially with a very important magazine of the 1960's called some--oblique thing [some/thing]. And he's especially interesting to me too because of the kind of work that produced a book such as Technicians of the Sacred, a compilation of the poetries from various oral traditions around the world, and a similar sort of impulse has always been at the centre of his work too. I'd also like to correct a mistake on the little printed page that wasn't really mine, that I picked up from somewhere else and couldn't quite believe myself, that said that Jerome Rothenberg was born in 1921. All I can say is that he was born sometime between the death of Lord Byron [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5679] and now. [Laughter]. But I'm pretty certain that he wasn't around in 1921. So I'd like you to give a welcome to Jerome Rothenberg.\n \nAudience\n00:02:53\nApplause.\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:02:58\nThe birthdate'll come clearer in the second part of the reading. I'll read in two parts. And in the first set, what I'll be reading are translations and re-workings of American Indian poetry, which have been important to me over the last five or six years. And I'll start with some which are based on earlier translations, re-workings of material previously translated, and then as I get into it, some translations that result from direct contact and direct experience of American Indian poetry. This is an Aztec poem. The first four or five, six poems will be Aztec or Mexican in origin, and the theme will be flowers.  \"Offering Flowers\".\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:04:24\nReads \"Offering Flowers\" [from Technicians of the Sacred].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:07:37\nThis is Aztec, too, in origin, translated through the Spanish.\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:07:52\nReads “A Song of Chalco” [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:09:53\nAnd it doesn't die out, even with the destruction that follows, and flowers are picked up again, this in a series of translations, again through the Spanish, of a series of Peyote songs, from the Huichol Indians of central Mexico [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q96]. The name Wirikuta [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8026952] is the name given to the place of the gods, and the spiritual place of the Peyote. The Peyote is described as the rose, it's described as the corn, the maize, it's described under a number of images, and through the figure, the mythological figure of one called the Blue Stag. This is the first Huichol, Peyote song.\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:10:46\nReads “First Peyote Song” [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:11:46.19\n\"Song of an Initiate\".\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:11:51\nReads \"Song of an Initiate\" [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:12:25\nAnd this is a poem called \"How the Violin Was Born: A Peyote Account”.\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:12:35\nReads \"How the Violin was Born: A Peyote Account” [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:13:24\nThese are a few short Indian pieces. Not poems but part of what's connected with the whole activity of poetry, among the tribal peoples. Which is more than an activity of words; which goes beyond language. And these are the events that accompany the words. And the first is an Iroquois dream event. \n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:13:58\nReads [\"Dream Event 1\", published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:14:08\nThese are a series of vision events. The first two are Eskimo.\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:14:14\nReads \"Vision Event I\" [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\n\nJerome Rothenberg\n00:14:25\nReads \"Vision Event 2\" [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:14:39\nAnd this is a Sioux Indian vision event.\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:14:43\nReads \"Vision Event 3\" [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:15:01\nThis is a Kwakiutl Indian gift event. All the words are from Kwakiut'l Indians. It's either spoken in English or translated into English. The Kwakiut'l, like other Northwest Coast people, celebrate the potlatch, you know, which is not always terrible or distasteful in its consequences. This is benevolent gift-giving. \n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:15:26\nReads \"Gift Event [2]\" [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:16:32\nThese are a series of seven Navajo animal songs. \n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:16:42\nReads \"Navajo Animal Songs\" [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:17:49\nThe next few are from a series of translations I've been doing, are called, well, it's the Seneca Indian word for one of their major curing ceremonies, a term for a major curing ceremony, \"Shaking the Pumpkin\", because the pumpkin rattle, the big pumpkin rattle is the major instrument used in this. Or it's got a more ornate name, it's called \"The Society of the Mystic Animals\". The man, Richard Johnny John, Indian, who is working with me on this, explained it's a serious ceremony, he said, but if everything's alright, the one who says the prayer tells them, I leave it up to you, folks, and if you want to have a good time, have a good time. Well everything's alright in the translations, you know, so one eases up there. The translations are done trying to follow everything in the Seneca, including the meaning of the sounds, the hey-ya and the way-oh-hey, that are very common in Indian poetry. Basically the way I do it is to present them visually on the page, and I can't do this in reading them, so I'm just going to select out of these poems that read easily. The purpose is curing, and well-being. \n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:19:34\nReads [\"Caw Caw the Crows Caw Caw\" published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:19:49\nReads \"Two more about a crow, in the manner of Zukofsky\" [later published in Shaking the Pumpkin].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:20:05\nThree poems about the owl, on the page, the vocables, the sounds, make the figure of an owl, even as in the singing of the song, the sound of the owl comes through. But here are just the words.\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:20:19\nReads \"The Owl: One\".\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:20:25\nReads \"The Owl: Two\".\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:20:32\nReads \"The Owl: Three\".\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:20:40\n\"A Song of My Song, In Three Parts”.\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:20:45\nReads \"A Song of My Song, In Three Parts\" [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:20:59\nReads “Three Ways to Screw Up on Your Way to the Doings” [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:21:16\nBuckets are important, to bring back soup and...The last one from this series.\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:21:31\nReads “Where the Song Went Where She Went & What Happened When they Met” [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:22:15\nThe next are a little harder to do, but I hope I make it. The Senecas don't use many words. It's a kind of minimal poetry and the power is in the compression. The Navajos use more words, the poetry gets dense, and in addition they use many many non-verbal sounds. And in addition, they distort many of the words in the singing. So that if you translate just for the meaning, you're only getting a small part of what the Navajo is doing. And then in addition, everything is sung in the Navajo. So I began to translate a series called, because that's what they are, \"The Seventeen Horse Songs of Frank Mitchell\". Seventeen horse-blessing, horse-curing songs that were the property of a Navajo medicine man named Frank Mitchell. And the problem that came up for me, I couldn't translate just for meaning, I wanted to, you know, consider all of the factors that went into the poem. So I began to insert sounds corresponding to the sound of the English words as the Navajo had the meaning of the sounds, and to distort the words. And then it seemed to me that it was necessary to carry this further, to begin to sing the songs as well. Which came to me with great difficulty. But I've gotten through a number of them now, and what I'll do is sing one, the \"Tenth Horse Song of Frank Mitchell,\" and then do a tape for three voices of another one of the horse songs. You'll notice the words are rather similar from one to another, the melody changes. In this, and the Navajos of course would know this, the hero, Enemy-Slayer, has gone to the house of his father, the sun up there, to bring back horses for the people. And in this Tenth Horse Song, it's mostly the father, the sun, speaking, telling him to bring the horses back to the house of his mother, you know, who everybody understands to be Changing Woman. Bring it back to the earth. And sometimes the voice of Enemy-Slayer comes into it.  But the basic refrain is to \"go to the woman, go to her.\" \n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:25:24\nPerforms \"Tenth Horse Song of Frank Mitchell\" [from The 17 Horse-Songs of Frank Mitchell]. \n \nAudience\n00:31:25\nApplause.\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:31:38\nThe next one, and I guess the last piece in the first set, is the \"Twelfth Horse Song of Frank Mitchell\". The melody changes. Some of the distortions change. The burden changes, and now Enemy-Slayer contemplates the horses coming back to earth with him, in the same sequence. This is done on tape, with three voices. I think that's about all there is to say about it. Three voices.\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:32:23\nPlays recording of \"Twelfth Horse Song of Frank Mitchell\", sung by three voices [from The 17 Horse-Songs of Frank Mitchell and published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\n \nAudience\n00:39:42\nApplause.\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:39:48\nIn fact, let me end this set with a live poem, I don't want to end with a machine. This is another Aztec poem called \"The Flight of Quetzalcoatl\". The plumed serpent, bird-snake man. In which he discovers that he's become old, and leaves and goes on a long journey, and is reborn as the morning star.\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:40:39\nReads \"The Flight of Quetzalcoatl\" [later published in Shaking the Pumpkin].\n \nAudience\n00:47:17\nApplause. \n \nUnknown\n00:47:20\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\n \nGeorge Bowering\n00:47:20\nOkay, we'll hold for about ten minutes, and open the doors and get cool, and then come back. \n \nUnknown\n00:47:27\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:47:28\nThe second set will be a straight reading, whatever that means, from a long series of poems called \"Poland/1931\". A series of ancestral poems. So Poland [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q36] is where the ancestors come from, for some number, hundreds of years. And that is Jewish Poland. And 1931, rather than 1921, is the year of my birth. And it's in a sense, though I don't keep to it too strictly, everything before that. To try to build up a world that I really don't know.\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:48:29\nReads \"Poland/1931: The Wedding\" [from Poland/1931].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:50:46\nReads \"The King of the Jews\" [from Poland/1931].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:51:52\nThe next one's called \"The Key of Solomon\". It's the name of a medieval, a series of medieval magical books that were supposed to go back to the times of Solomon [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q37085]. \n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:57:07\nReads \"The Key of Solomon\" [from Poland/1931].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:53:42\n\"The Beadle's Testimony.\" Because beadles were a demon.\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:53:47\nReads \"The Beadle's Testimony\" [from Poland/1931].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:54:53\nTwo poems called \"Soap\".\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:54:57\nReads \"Soap \" [from Poland/1931].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:55:56\nReads \"Soap II” [from Poland/1931].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:57:37\nReads \"The Rabbi's Testimony\" [from Poland/1931].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n00:59:08\nReads \"The Connoisseur of Jews\" [from Poland/1931].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n01:00:38\nReads \"The Beards\" [from Poland/1931].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n01:03:32\nReads \"The Mothers I\" [from Poland/1931]. \n \nJerome Rothenberg\n01:04:08\nReads \"The Mothers II\" [from Poland/1931].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n01:04:43\nReads \"The Mothers III\" [from Poland/1931].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n01:05:19\nReads \"Milk & Honey I\" [from Poland/1931].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n01:06:00\nReads \"Milk & Honey II\" [from Poland/1931].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n01:06:31\nReads \"Ancestral Scenes\" [from Poland/1931].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n01:07:09\nReads \"The Fathers\" [from Poland/1931].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n01:09:10\nThis one is called \"Portrait of the Jew, Old Country Style\".\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n01:09:16\nReads \"Poland, 1931: Portrait of the Jew, Old Country Style\" [from Poland/1931].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n01:11:51\nThis is a longer one, called \"The Student's Testimony\"\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n01:12:04\nReads \"The Student's Testimony\" [from Poland/1931].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n01:17:49\nA somewhat shorter one, and then another long one, and then a quite short one and that's...that's it. \n \nJerome Rothenberg\n01:17:58\nReads \"The Brothers\" [from Poland/1931].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n01:20:10\nReads \"The Steward's Testimony\" [from Poland/1931].\n\nAudience\n01:25:15\nLaughter and applause [faint].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n01:25:20\nNow, I'll end it with, I'll end it with two poems. \"A Poem for the Christians\". It's partly to...[Audience laughter]...it's a found poem from the prayer book. But you can see where there are changes, you know. [Audience laughter].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n01:25:42\nReads \"A Poem for the Christians\" [from Poland/1931].\n \nJerome Rothenberg\n01:26:45\nReads \"Fish and Paradise\".\n \nEND\n01:27:32\n[Cut off abruptly]."],"Note":["[{\"note\":\"Year-Specific Information:\\n\\nJerome Rothenberg published Poland/1931 (Unicorn Press, 1969) and The Directions (Tetrad Press, 1969) with Tom Phillips and was teaching at the Mannes College for Music.\",\"type\":\"General\"},{\"note\":\"Local Connections:\\n\\nDirect connection to Sir George Williams University is unknown. Jerome Rothenberg was an influential member of contemporary American poetry, and had correspondences with other members of the poetry reading series, such as Robert Creeley, Paul Blackburn, Allen Ginsberg, Robert Kelly, Jackson Mac Low, bp Nichol, Gary Snyder and Diane Wakoski (please see Rothenberg’s papers for correspondences).\",\"type\":\"General\"},{\"note\":\"Original transcript and print catalogue by Rachel Kyne\\n\\nOriginal print catalogue, research, introduction and edits by Celyn Harding-Jones\\n\\nAdditional research and edits by Ali Barillaro\\n\",\"type\":\"Cataloguer\"},{\"note\":\"Reel-to-reel tape>2 CDs>digital file\",\"type\":\"Preservation\"}]"],"Related_works":["[{\"url\":\"https://www.worldcat.org/title/oxford-companion-to-twentieth-century-poetry-in-english/oclc/954547274&referer=brief_results\",\"citation\":\"Gilbert, Roger. \\\"Rothenberg, Jerome\\\". The Oxford Companion to Twentieth-Century Poetry in English. Ian Hamilton. 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Welcome back to the first night of the fourth year of our series. And for those of you who are here for the first time, welcome you too. I'm really glad that we could start off with Jerome Rothenberg [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1775056], especially from my own personal viewpoint, because while Jerome Rothenberg is one of the names that I've paid a lot of attention to, and one of the names that poets have paid attention to over the last decade, this'll be the first time that I've been able to hear him read, too. Usually when, often when us people from the West think about the new American poetry, we tend to think of it in terms of people from outposts such as New Mexico [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1522], and Utah, [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q829] and San Francisco [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q62], and so on. And we forget that New York City [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q60] is one of the centre-place, central-places, so that it can produce poets such as Joel Oppenheimer [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6213806] who will be here in the following spring, and Paul Blackburn [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7149388], who was here a couple of years ago. Jerome Rothenberg has always been the centre, in the centre of that scene, and not only as one of the principal poets, but as editor, and publisher, and so on and so forth, especially with a very important magazine of the 1960's called some--oblique thing [some/thing]. And he's especially interesting to me too because of the kind of work that produced a book such as Technicians of the Sacred, a compilation of the poetries from various oral traditions around the world, and a similar sort of impulse has always been at the centre of his work too. I'd also like to correct a mistake on the little printed page that wasn't really mine, that I picked up from somewhere else and couldn't quite believe myself, that said that Jerome Rothenberg was born in 1921. All I can say is that he was born sometime between the death of Lord Byron [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5679] and now. [Laughter]. But I'm pretty certain that he wasn't around in 1921. So I'd like you to give a welcome to Jerome Rothenberg.\\n \\nAudience\\n00:02:53\\nApplause.\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:02:58\\nThe birthdate'll come clearer in the second part of the reading. I'll read in two parts. And in the first set, what I'll be reading are translations and re-workings of American Indian poetry, which have been important to me over the last five or six years. And I'll start with some which are based on earlier translations, re-workings of material previously translated, and then as I get into it, some translations that result from direct contact and direct experience of American Indian poetry. This is an Aztec poem. The first four or five, six poems will be Aztec or Mexican in origin, and the theme will be flowers.  \\\"Offering Flowers\\\".\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:04:24\\nReads \\\"Offering Flowers\\\" [from Technicians of the Sacred].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:07:37\\nThis is Aztec, too, in origin, translated through the Spanish.\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:07:52\\nReads “A Song of Chalco” [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:09:53\\nAnd it doesn't die out, even with the destruction that follows, and flowers are picked up again, this in a series of translations, again through the Spanish, of a series of Peyote songs, from the Huichol Indians of central Mexico [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q96]. The name Wirikuta [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8026952] is the name given to the place of the gods, and the spiritual place of the Peyote. The Peyote is described as the rose, it's described as the corn, the maize, it's described under a number of images, and through the figure, the mythological figure of one called the Blue Stag. This is the first Huichol, Peyote song.\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:10:46\\nReads “First Peyote Song” [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:11:46.19\\n\\\"Song of an Initiate\\\".\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:11:51\\nReads \\\"Song of an Initiate\\\" [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:12:25\\nAnd this is a poem called \\\"How the Violin Was Born: A Peyote Account”.\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:12:35\\nReads \\\"How the Violin was Born: A Peyote Account” [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:13:24\\nThese are a few short Indian pieces. Not poems but part of what's connected with the whole activity of poetry, among the tribal peoples. Which is more than an activity of words; which goes beyond language. And these are the events that accompany the words. And the first is an Iroquois dream event. \\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:13:58\\nReads [\\\"Dream Event 1\\\", published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:14:08\\nThese are a series of vision events. The first two are Eskimo.\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:14:14\\nReads \\\"Vision Event I\\\" [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\\n\\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:14:25\\nReads \\\"Vision Event 2\\\" [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:14:39\\nAnd this is a Sioux Indian vision event.\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:14:43\\nReads \\\"Vision Event 3\\\" [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:15:01\\nThis is a Kwakiutl Indian gift event. All the words are from Kwakiut'l Indians. It's either spoken in English or translated into English. The Kwakiut'l, like other Northwest Coast people, celebrate the potlatch, you know, which is not always terrible or distasteful in its consequences. This is benevolent gift-giving. \\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:15:26\\nReads \\\"Gift Event [2]\\\" [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:16:32\\nThese are a series of seven Navajo animal songs. \\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:16:42\\nReads \\\"Navajo Animal Songs\\\" [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:17:49\\nThe next few are from a series of translations I've been doing, are called, well, it's the Seneca Indian word for one of their major curing ceremonies, a term for a major curing ceremony, \\\"Shaking the Pumpkin\\\", because the pumpkin rattle, the big pumpkin rattle is the major instrument used in this. Or it's got a more ornate name, it's called \\\"The Society of the Mystic Animals\\\". The man, Richard Johnny John, Indian, who is working with me on this, explained it's a serious ceremony, he said, but if everything's alright, the one who says the prayer tells them, I leave it up to you, folks, and if you want to have a good time, have a good time. Well everything's alright in the translations, you know, so one eases up there. The translations are done trying to follow everything in the Seneca, including the meaning of the sounds, the hey-ya and the way-oh-hey, that are very common in Indian poetry. Basically the way I do it is to present them visually on the page, and I can't do this in reading them, so I'm just going to select out of these poems that read easily. The purpose is curing, and well-being. \\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:19:34\\nReads [\\\"Caw Caw the Crows Caw Caw\\\" published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:19:49\\nReads \\\"Two more about a crow, in the manner of Zukofsky\\\" [later published in Shaking the Pumpkin].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:20:05\\nThree poems about the owl, on the page, the vocables, the sounds, make the figure of an owl, even as in the singing of the song, the sound of the owl comes through. But here are just the words.\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:20:19\\nReads \\\"The Owl: One\\\".\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:20:25\\nReads \\\"The Owl: Two\\\".\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:20:32\\nReads \\\"The Owl: Three\\\".\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:20:40\\n\\\"A Song of My Song, In Three Parts”.\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:20:45\\nReads \\\"A Song of My Song, In Three Parts\\\" [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:20:59\\nReads “Three Ways to Screw Up on Your Way to the Doings” [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:21:16\\nBuckets are important, to bring back soup and...The last one from this series.\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:21:31\\nReads “Where the Song Went Where She Went & What Happened When they Met” [published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:22:15\\nThe next are a little harder to do, but I hope I make it. The Senecas don't use many words. It's a kind of minimal poetry and the power is in the compression. The Navajos use more words, the poetry gets dense, and in addition they use many many non-verbal sounds. And in addition, they distort many of the words in the singing. So that if you translate just for the meaning, you're only getting a small part of what the Navajo is doing. And then in addition, everything is sung in the Navajo. So I began to translate a series called, because that's what they are, \\\"The Seventeen Horse Songs of Frank Mitchell\\\". Seventeen horse-blessing, horse-curing songs that were the property of a Navajo medicine man named Frank Mitchell. And the problem that came up for me, I couldn't translate just for meaning, I wanted to, you know, consider all of the factors that went into the poem. So I began to insert sounds corresponding to the sound of the English words as the Navajo had the meaning of the sounds, and to distort the words. And then it seemed to me that it was necessary to carry this further, to begin to sing the songs as well. Which came to me with great difficulty. But I've gotten through a number of them now, and what I'll do is sing one, the \\\"Tenth Horse Song of Frank Mitchell,\\\" and then do a tape for three voices of another one of the horse songs. You'll notice the words are rather similar from one to another, the melody changes. In this, and the Navajos of course would know this, the hero, Enemy-Slayer, has gone to the house of his father, the sun up there, to bring back horses for the people. And in this Tenth Horse Song, it's mostly the father, the sun, speaking, telling him to bring the horses back to the house of his mother, you know, who everybody understands to be Changing Woman. Bring it back to the earth. And sometimes the voice of Enemy-Slayer comes into it.  But the basic refrain is to \\\"go to the woman, go to her.\\\" \\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:25:24\\nPerforms \\\"Tenth Horse Song of Frank Mitchell\\\" [from The 17 Horse-Songs of Frank Mitchell]. \\n \\nAudience\\n00:31:25\\nApplause.\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:31:38\\nThe next one, and I guess the last piece in the first set, is the \\\"Twelfth Horse Song of Frank Mitchell\\\". The melody changes. Some of the distortions change. The burden changes, and now Enemy-Slayer contemplates the horses coming back to earth with him, in the same sequence. This is done on tape, with three voices. I think that's about all there is to say about it. Three voices.\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:32:23\\nPlays recording of \\\"Twelfth Horse Song of Frank Mitchell\\\", sung by three voices [from The 17 Horse-Songs of Frank Mitchell and published later in Shaking the Pumpkin].\\n \\nAudience\\n00:39:42\\nApplause.\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:39:48\\nIn fact, let me end this set with a live poem, I don't want to end with a machine. This is another Aztec poem called \\\"The Flight of Quetzalcoatl\\\". The plumed serpent, bird-snake man. In which he discovers that he's become old, and leaves and goes on a long journey, and is reborn as the morning star.\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:40:39\\nReads \\\"The Flight of Quetzalcoatl\\\" [later published in Shaking the Pumpkin].\\n \\nAudience\\n00:47:17\\nApplause. \\n \\nUnknown\\n00:47:20\\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\\n \\nGeorge Bowering\\n00:47:20\\nOkay, we'll hold for about ten minutes, and open the doors and get cool, and then come back. \\n \\nUnknown\\n00:47:27\\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:47:28\\nThe second set will be a straight reading, whatever that means, from a long series of poems called \\\"Poland/1931\\\". A series of ancestral poems. So Poland [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q36] is where the ancestors come from, for some number, hundreds of years. And that is Jewish Poland. And 1931, rather than 1921, is the year of my birth. And it's in a sense, though I don't keep to it too strictly, everything before that. To try to build up a world that I really don't know.\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:48:29\\nReads \\\"Poland/1931: The Wedding\\\" [from Poland/1931].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:50:46\\nReads \\\"The King of the Jews\\\" [from Poland/1931].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:51:52\\nThe next one's called \\\"The Key of Solomon\\\". It's the name of a medieval, a series of medieval magical books that were supposed to go back to the times of Solomon [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q37085]. \\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:57:07\\nReads \\\"The Key of Solomon\\\" [from Poland/1931].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:53:42\\n\\\"The Beadle's Testimony.\\\" Because beadles were a demon.\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:53:47\\nReads \\\"The Beadle's Testimony\\\" [from Poland/1931].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:54:53\\nTwo poems called \\\"Soap\\\".\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:54:57\\nReads \\\"Soap \\\" [from Poland/1931].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:55:56\\nReads \\\"Soap II” [from Poland/1931].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:57:37\\nReads \\\"The Rabbi's Testimony\\\" [from Poland/1931].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n00:59:08\\nReads \\\"The Connoisseur of Jews\\\" [from Poland/1931].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n01:00:38\\nReads \\\"The Beards\\\" [from Poland/1931].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n01:03:32\\nReads \\\"The Mothers I\\\" [from Poland/1931]. \\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n01:04:08\\nReads \\\"The Mothers II\\\" [from Poland/1931].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n01:04:43\\nReads \\\"The Mothers III\\\" [from Poland/1931].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n01:05:19\\nReads \\\"Milk & Honey I\\\" [from Poland/1931].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n01:06:00\\nReads \\\"Milk & Honey II\\\" [from Poland/1931].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n01:06:31\\nReads \\\"Ancestral Scenes\\\" [from Poland/1931].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n01:07:09\\nReads \\\"The Fathers\\\" [from Poland/1931].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n01:09:10\\nThis one is called \\\"Portrait of the Jew, Old Country Style\\\".\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n01:09:16\\nReads \\\"Poland, 1931: Portrait of the Jew, Old Country Style\\\" [from Poland/1931].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n01:11:51\\nThis is a longer one, called \\\"The Student's Testimony\\\"\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n01:12:04\\nReads \\\"The Student's Testimony\\\" [from Poland/1931].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n01:17:49\\nA somewhat shorter one, and then another long one, and then a quite short one and that's...that's it. \\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n01:17:58\\nReads \\\"The Brothers\\\" [from Poland/1931].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n01:20:10\\nReads \\\"The Steward's Testimony\\\" [from Poland/1931].\\n\\nAudience\\n01:25:15\\nLaughter and applause [faint].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n01:25:20\\nNow, I'll end it with, I'll end it with two poems. \\\"A Poem for the Christians\\\". It's partly to...[Audience laughter]...it's a found poem from the prayer book. But you can see where there are changes, you know. [Audience laughter].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n01:25:42\\nReads \\\"A Poem for the Christians\\\" [from Poland/1931].\\n \\nJerome Rothenberg\\n01:26:45\\nReads \\\"Fish and Paradise\\\".\\n \\nEND\\n01:27:32\\n[Cut off abruptly].\",\"notes\":\"Jerome Rothenberg reads poems published later in Shaking the Pumpkin (Doubleday, 1972) and from Poland/1931 (Unicorn Press, 1969).\\n\\nRachel has indexed poems.\\n00:00- George Bowering introduces Jerome Rothenberg. [INDEX: room, first night of fourth year of the series, poets, West, New American Poetry, New Mexico, Utah, San Francisco, New York City, Joel Oppenheimer, Paul Blackburn, editor, publisher, Some CH Oblique Thing [unknown 1960’s magazine], Technicians of the Sacred, oral traditions worldwide, pamphlet mistake: Rothenberg not born in 1921, Lord Byron.]\\n02:58- Jerome Rothenberg introduces reading and “Offering Flowers”. [INDEX: birthdate, two-part reading, translations or re-workings of American Indian poetry, direct contact, direct experience with American Indians, Aztec poem, Mexican, theme of flowers; unknown source.]\\n04:24- Reads “Offering Flowers”. [INDEX: translation, Aztec, Mexico, flower, feast, offering, morning, temple, spiritual, god, dance, repetition, anaphora, food, drink, word]\\n07:37- Introduces “A Song of Chalco”. [INDEX: Aztec in origin, translated to Spanish; later published in Shaking the Pumpkin (Doubleday, 1972).]\\n07:52- Reads “A Song of Chalco”. [INDEX: rose, fire, god, house, bird, thrush,   song, poet, forest, flower, dance, lust, father, prince, joy, son, body, river.]\\n09:53- Introduces first line “First Peyote Song”. [INDEX: die out, destruction, flowers, translations, Spanish, Peyote songs, Huichol Indians of central Mexico, Wiricota, gods,        spiritual place of the Peyote, rose, the corn, the maize, images, mythological figure called Blue Stag, Huichol; later published in Shaking the Pumpkin (Doubleday, 1972).]\\n10:46- Reads first line “First Peyote Song” . [INDEX: rose, birth, flower, wind, eternal, god, mountain, mother, house, heart, Peyote, Blue Stag, rain, maize, earth, Aztec, Mexico, song.]\\n11:46- Reads “Song of an Initiate”. [INDEX: rose, song, god, stair, sky, silence; later published in Shaking the Pumpkin (Doubleday, 1972).]\\n12:25- Introduces “How the Violin Was Born: A Peyote Account”. [INDEX: peyote account; later published in Shaking the Pumpkin (Doubleday, 1972).]\\n12:35- Reads “How the Violin Was Born”. [INDEX: music, violin, wood, cedar, stone, tree, heart, soul, Big Stag, bird, song, wind.]\\n13:24- Introduces “Dream Event I”. [INDEX: Indian pieces, whole activity of poetry, tribal peoples, activity of words, beyond language, events that accompany words, Iroquois dream-event; later published in Shaking the Pumpkin (Doubleday, 1972).]\\n13:58- Reads “Dream Event I\\\". [INDEX: aboriginal, dream, community,         \\tinterpretation, theatre.]\\n14:08- Introduces “Vision Event I”. [INDEX: ‘Eskimo’; later published in Shaking the Pumpkin (Doubleday, 1972).]\\n14:14- Reads “Vision Event I”. [INDEX: aboriginal, Eskimo, solitude, stone, circle, place, time, ritual.]\\n14:25- Reads “Vision Event II”. [INDEX: aboriginal, Eskimo, vision, hanging, sight; later published in Shaking the Pumpkin (Doubleday, 1972).]\\n14:39- Introduces “Vision Event III”. [INDEX: Sioux Indian.]\\n14:43- Reads “Vision Event III”. [INDEX: American Indian, aboriginal, vision, crying, sight; later published in Shaking the Pumpkin (Doubleday, 1972).]\\n15:01- Introduces “Gift Event” [INDEX: Kwakiut’l Indian gift event, English, translation,        Northwest Coast people, celebrate the potlatch, consequences, benevolent; later published in Shaking the Pumpkin (Doubleday, 1972).]\\n15:26- Reads “Gift Event”. [INDEX: Kwakiut'l, giving, gift, potlatch, Northwest, coast, aboriginal, animal, ritual, house, sound, value, name.]\\n16:32- Introduces “Seven Navajo Animal Songs”.\\n16:42- Reads “Seven Navajo Animal Songs”. [INDEX: animal, chipmunk, action, movement, mole, sex, wildcat, water, turkey, madness, scatological, pinion jay, bird; later published in Shaking the Pumpkin (Doubleday, 1972).]\\n17:49- Introduces “Caw Caw the Crows Caw”. [INDEX: Seneca Indian word, curing ceremony “Shaking the pumpkin”, instrument, “The Society of the Mystic Animals”, Richard Johnny-John Indian, serious ceremony, prayer, translations, meanings of sounds, Indian poetry, visual presentation of sound, curing, well-being; later published in Shaking the Pumpkin (Doubleday, 1972).]\\n19:34- Reads “Caw Caw the Crows Caw”.  [INDEX: Seneca, aboriginal, crow, movement; later published in Shaking the Pumpkin (Doubleday, 1972).]\\n19:49- Reads  “Two more about a crow, in the manner of Zukofsky...”.  [INDEX: Louis Zukofsky, sound, Seneca, aboriginal later published in Shaking the Pumpkin      (Doubleday, 1972).]\\n20:05- Introduces “The Owl: One”. [INDEX: page, vocables, sounds, figure, singing of song, \\tsound of the owl.]\\n20:19- Reads “The Owl: One”. [INDEX: Seneca, aboriginal, owl, home, tree, hemlock]\\n20:25- Reads “The Owl: Two”.  [INDEX: Seneca, aboriginal, cure, sickness, poison, owl]\\n20:32- Reads “The Owl: Three”. [INDEX: Seneca, aboriginal, owl, tree, sound, whistle.]\\n20:40- Reads “A Song of My Song”. [INDEX: three parts, song, distance, circle, room,   proximity, sound; later published in Shaking the Pumpkin (Doubleday, 1972).]\\n20:59- Reads “Three Ways to Screw Up on Your Way to the Doings”. [INDEX: later published in Shaking the Pumpkin (Doubleday, 1972)\\n21:16- Introduces “Where the Song Went Where She Went & What Happened When they Met”. [INDEX: buckets, soup, last of series; later published in Shaking the Pumpkin (Doubleday, 1972).]\\n21:31- Reads “Where the Song Went Where She Went & What Happened When they Met”\\n22:15- Introduces “Tenth Horse Song of Frank Mitchell”. [INDEX: Senecas, words, minimal poetry, power in compression, Navajo poetry, non-verbal sounds, distort words when sung, translation, meaning, series, horse-blessing, horse-curing songs, Navajo medicine man Frank Mitchell, problem translating, insert sounds, English, sing, tape of three voices of horse song, melody, hero, Enemy-Slayer, father’s house, sun, people, mother, Changing Woman, earth, refrain “go to the woman, go to her”.]\\n25:24- Reads/Sings “Tenth Horse Song of Frank Mitchell”.\\n31:38- Introduces “Twelfth Horse Song of Frank Mitchell”. [INDEX: melody change, distortions change, burden changes, Enemy-Slayer, horses, earth, sequence, three voices, later published in Shaking the Pumpkin (Doubleday, 1972).]\\n32:23- Plays recording of “Twelfth Horse Song of Frank Mitchell”.\\n39:48- Introduces “The Flight of the Quetzalcoatl”. [INDEX: live poem, machine, Aztec poem, plumed serpent, bird-snake-man, old, long journey, morning star; published later in Shaking the Pumpkin (Doubleday, 1972).]\\n40:39- Reads “The Flight of the Quetzalcoatl”.\\n47:20- George Bowering introduces break.\\n47:27.02- END OF RECORDING.\\n\\n00:00- Jerome Rothenberg introduces long poem “Poland 1931”. [INDEX: long poem, ancestral poems, Jewish Poland, year of Rothenberg’s birth, world unknown.]\\n01:02- Reads “Poland, 1931: The Wedding”.\\n03:19- Reads “Poland, 1931: The King of Jews”.\\n04:25- Introduces “Poland, 1931: The Key of Solomon”. [INDEX: medieval magical books.]\\n04:40- Reads “Poland, 1931: The Key of Solomon”.\\n06:15- Introduces “Poland, 1931: The Beetle’s Testimony”. [INDEX: beetles, demon.]\\n06:20- Reads “Poland, 1931: The Beetle’s Testimony”.\\n07:26- Introduces “Poland, 1931: Soap”. 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He has often been associated with bpNichol as a founder of the concrete poetry movement and a sound poetry practitioner. bissett has published dozens of collections of poems over thirty years, many of them self-published with his own art on the cover. A selection of his titles include we sleep inside each other all published in 1966 by Island press, which was followed by awake in the red desert (TalonBooks, 1968), selected poems: nobody owns th earth (House of Anansi Press, 1971), pomes for yoshi (blewointmentpress,1972), Medicine my mouths on fire (Oberon Press, 1974), Sailor (TalonBooks, 1978), Seagull on Yonge Street (TalonBooks, 1983), Canada gees mate for life (TalonBooks, 1985), Animal uproar (TalonBooks, 1987), Hard 2 beleev (TalonBooks, 1990), Th last photo uv th human soul (TalonBooks, 1993), Th influenza uv logik (TalonBooks, 1995). bissett founded Vancouver’s blewointmentpress in 1963. His poetry and alternative lifestyle often caused bissett to have legal problems, which rallied support from his community. what we have (TalonBooks, 1988) won the Milton Acorn People’s Poetry Award in 1989, and much of his art and activism privileges the democracy of poetry. 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(1968),\nOf Th Land Divine Service (Weed/Flower Press, 1968), lost angel mining company (Blew Ointment Press, 1969), Liberating Skies (1969), and Nobody Owns th Earth (House of Anansi Press, 1971), some of which were later collected in Selected Poems: Beyond Even Faithful Legends (Talonbooks, 1980)."],"contents":["bill_bisset_i006-11-083.mp3\n\nbill bissett\n00:00:00\nReads “3. i have evn herd uv thee” [from Of Th Land Divine Service]. \n\nbill bissett\n00:01:12\nPerforms “4” [from Of Th Land Divine Service]. \n\nbill bissett\n00:04:44\nReads \"The molecular robbery\" [from lost angel mining company]. \n\nbill bissett\n00:11:09\nReads unnamed poem.\n\nbill bissett\n00:13:40\nReads \"Killer Whale\" [from lost angel mining company].\n\nbill bissett\n00:18:04\nPerforms “5. And that light is in thee is in thee and” [from Of Th Land Divine Service].\n\nbill bissett\n00:19:20\nPerforms “6. And in all things did even as Adam had done” [from Of Th Land Divine Service].\n\nbill bissett\n00:20:48\nPerforms “and the green wind is mooving thru th summr trees” [from awake in th red desert]. \n\nbill bissett\n00:22:54\nReads “Circles in th Sun” [from lost angel mining company].\n\nbill bissett\n00:24:13\nPerforms “Walrus Song” [from lost angel mining company].\n\nbill bissett\n00:33:09\nReads unnamed poem [from lost angel mining company].\n\nbill bissett\n00:37:14\nReads [“the flaming end: 8 beautiful people on a bus”].\n\nUnknown\n00:47:44\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\n\nbill bissett\n00:47:44\nResumes reading [possibly still “the flaming end: 8 beautiful people on a bus”].\n\nbill bissett\n00:50:25\nReads unnamed poem.\n\nbill bissett\n00:51:09\nReads [\"Another 100 warrants issued\" from Nobody Owns th Earth].\n\nbill bissett\n00:53:36\nPerforms \"th water falls in yr mind nd yu get wet tooo\" [from liberating skies].\n\nbill bissett\n00:58:25\nPerforms unnamed poem.\n\nbill bissett\n01:02:02\nReads unnamed poem.\n\nbill bissett\n01:02:32\nPerforms “tarzan collage” [from drifting into war]. \n\nAudience\n01:04:37\nApplause.\n\nbill bissett\n01:05:08\nJust as you leave I'll just do this little thing, just keep going though.  \n\nbill bissett\n01:05:11\nPerforms unnamed poem.\n\nbill bissett\n01:06:18\nPerforms [“moss song” from Of Th Land Divine Service].\n\nEND\n01:14:13\n"],"Note":["[{\"note\":\"Year-Specific Information:\\n\\nIn 1969, bissett published Liberating Skies (Blewointment Press), Lost Angel Mining Company (Blewointment Press), and Sunday Work? (Blewointment Press). He was working on S the Story I to (Blewointment Press, 1970), Blew Trewz, Nobody Owns th Earth both published by Blewointment Press in 1971, along with Dragonfly (Weed/Flower Press, 1971), Drifting into War (Talonbooks, 1971), I.B.M. (Blewointment Press, 1971), Tuff Shit: Love Pomes (Bandit/Black Moss Press, 1971), and Rush (Blewointmeint Press, 1971).\",\"type\":\"General\"},{\"note\":\"Local Connections:  \\n\\nbissett’s blewointment press and its magazine has published (then) up-and-coming Vancouver poets Gerry Gilbert and Maxine Gadd. His own work was first published by Eli Mandel, and anthologized by Margaret Atwood and Dennis Lee. Though his poetry was radical and a rejection of conventional styles, bissett has become an important figure in Canada’s literary history. 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Timestamps reflect the single recording. \\n\\nList of Poems Read and Time Stamps [Part 1]\\n00:00 - Recording starts mid-sentence, reading “3. i have evn herd uv thee” [INDEX: from OF TH LAND DIVINE SERVICE,  line “...I had even heard of thee, that the spirit of the gods is in thee...”]\\n01:12 - Reads “4” [INDEX: from OF TH LAND DIVINE SERVICE, first line “a chain of gold which art of the children...”.]\\n04:44 - Reads “The molecular robbery” [INDEX: from lost angel mining company]\\n11:09 - Reads first line “Sung to the tune of Michael rowed his boat ashore...”\\n13:40 - Reads “Killer Whale”\\n18:04 - Reads “5. And that light is in thee is in thee and” [INDEX: from OF TH LAND DIVINE SERVICE.]\\n19:20 - Reads “6. And in all things did even as Adam had done” [INDEX: from OF TH LAND DIVINE SERVICE.]\\n20:48 - Reads “and the green wind is mooving thru th summr trees” [INDEX: from lost angel mining company and from OF TH LAND DIVINE SERVICE.]\\n22:36 - Reads “Circles in th Sun” [INDEX: from lost angel mining company, first line “In the mushroom village, all the little children, brightly smiling...”]\\n24:13 - Reads “Walrus Song” [INDEX: from lost angel mining company, first line “Drink all the lime you can...”.]\\n33:09 - Reads first line “So that even yourself becomes a serene stranger...”\\n37:14.17 - END OF RECORDING\\n\\nList of Poems Read and Time Stamps [Part 2]\\n00:00 - Reads first line “The flaming end, eight beautiful people on a bus...”\\n10:30 - [CUT] continues reading “...absolutely nothing there but to do with living...”\\n13:11 - Reads first line “Could we grow [inaudible] in the bomb shelter?...”\\n13:55 - Reads “Another 100 warrants issued” from NOBODY OWNS TH EARTH\\n16:21 - Reads first line “The water falls in your mind and you get wet too...”\\n21:11 - Reads  first line “The moon is [inaudible] she screamed, listen closely she said...”\\n24:48 - Reads first line “Sparrows dream of the endless sun...”\\n25:17- Reads “tarzan collage” from drifting into war, first line “Speaking, speaking, speaking, the I is speaking...”\\n27:48 - Reads first line “Bright, yellow, sky...”\\n29:04 - Reads “moss song” from OF TH LAND DIVINE SERVICE , first line “See the berries ripen in the trees...”\\n36:59 - END OF RECORDING.\",\"title\":\"\",\"credit\":\"\",\"caption\":\"\",\"content_type\":\"Sound Recording\",\"featured\":\"Yes\",\"public_access_url\":\"https://montreal.spokenweb.ca/sgw-poetry-readings/bill-bissett-at-sgwu-1969/\"}]"],"score":1.8470539},{"id":"1281","cataloger_name":["Mahtab,Banihashemi"],"partnerInstitution":["Concordia University"],"collection_source_collection":["SGWU Reading Series-Concordia University Department of English fonds"],"source_collection_label":["SGWU Reading Series-Concordia University Department of English fonds"],"collection_contributing_unit":["Records Management and Archives"],"source_collection_uri":[""],"collection_image_url":[""],"collection_source_collection_description":["The fonds consists of some administrative records of the SGWU Department of English and the Concordia Department of English between 1971 and 2000. 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ALAN is mispelled. \"PERMISSION FROM HOWARD FINK TO REPRODUCE THIS TAPE\" also written on sticker on the back of the tape's box. \"ALAN GINSBERG-1 I006/SR33.2\" written on sticker on the spine of the tape's box. \"ALAN GINSBERG-1 I006-11-033.2\" written on sticker on the reel."],"item_language":["English"],"item_production_context":["Documentary recording"],"item_series_title":["The Poetry Series"],"item_subseries_title":["Poetry 4"],"item_identifiers":["[I006-11-033.1, I006-11-033.2]"],"creator_names":["Ginsberg, Irwin Allen"],"creator_names_search":["Ginsberg, Irwin Allen"],"creators":["[{\"url\":\"http://viaf.org/viaf/108417923\",\"name\":\"Ginsberg, Irwin Allen\",\"dates\":\"1926-1997 \",\"notes\":\"Poet, revolutionary, and Beat generation icon Allen Ginsberg was born on June 3, 1926 in Paterson, New Jersey, to Naomi, a radical communist, and Louis Ginsberg, teacher and lyric poet. In his early life, Ginsberg’s mother was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, a condition that would forever shape her son’s life. After graduation from high school, Ginsberg was accepted to Columbia University on scholarship to study labor law. However, after meeting Mark Van Doren and Lionel Trilling, Ginsberg turned to English and poetry. It was also at this time when he met Jack Kerouac, Lucien Carr, William S. Burroughs and Neal Cassady who would eventually form the ‘Beat Generation’. In 1948, Ginsberg had a vision of poet William Blake entering his apartment window, an event which would influence the rest of his life, attempting to recapture the image. In 1949, Ginsberg had a few minor run-ins with the law and he was committed to the Columbia-Presbyterian Psychiatric Institution. There he met his future publisher and life-long friend, Carl Solomon, a troubled intellectual. After serving in the merchant marines, and spending several months in Mexico, Ginsberg moved to San Francisco, where he met poets Kenneth Rexroth, Gary Snyder and Peter Orlovsky, who would become his life-long partner. After composing his first major notable poem, “Howl”, in 1955, he and Rexroth organized a reading of it at the Six Gallery, featuring Snyder and Michael McClure, with Lawrence Ferlenghetti (who later published the poem) and Kerouac in attendance. Ginsberg’s first collection of poetry was published in 1956, but with its second printing in 1957, Howl and Other Poems (City Lights Books, 1956) was seized by U.S. Customs for being ‘obscene’. However, after a trial, the book was deemed to have literary merit, which propelled Ginsberg and the Beat group of poets into instant fame, giving Ginsberg the opportunity to promote Kerouac’s On the Road and Burroughs’ Naked Lunch. In 1956, Ginsberg received news that his mother had died, which compelled him to write the poems “Death to Van Gogh’s Ear!” and “The Lion for Real”, and Kaddish and Other Poems (City Lights Books, 1961) as well as Empty Mirror: Early Poems (Corinth Books, 1961). During the 1960s Ginsberg traveled widely with Burroughs, Gregory Corso, Snyder to Paris, India, Tangier, Prague (where he was deported for being a corrupting influence). He published  Reality Sandwiches: 1953-1960 (City Lights Books, 1963), The Yage Letters with William Burroughs (City Lights Books, 1963), TV Baby Poems (Beach Books, 1968), Angkor Wat (Fulcrum Press, 1968), Planet News (City Lights Books, 1968), and Airplane Dreams: Compositions from Journals (City Lights Books, 1969). The years of 1968 and 1969 were filled with mourning for Ginsberg, as he learned of the death of both Neal Cassady and Jack Kerouac. The 1970s saw Ginsberg publish a number of collections, including The Fall of America: Poems of These States (City Lights, 1972), which won the National Book Award in 1974, The Gates of Wrath: Rhymed Poems, 1948-1952 (Grey Fox, 1972), Iron Horse (City Lights, 1974), First Blues: Rags, Ballads and Harmonium Songs, 1971-1974 (Full Court Press, 1975), Mind Breaths: Poems (City Lights, 1977), Poems All Over the Place: Mostly Seventies (Cherry Valley Editions, 1978). In 1976, Ginsberg and poet Anne Waldman were invited to create a writing program at the Naropa Institute in Colorado, which they named the Jack Kerouac School of Disembodied Poetics. In the 1980s and 1990s, Ginsberg published Plutonian Ode and Other Poems, 1977-1980 (City Lights, 1982), White Shroud: Poems 1980-1985 (Harper & Row, 1986), Cosmopolitan Greetings: Poems, 1986-1992 (HarperCollins,1994), Selected Poems (HarperCollins, 1996), Death & Fame: Last Poems, 1993-1997 (HarperFlamingo, 1999). Until his death, Ginsberg used his fame and poetry to speak out against censorship, the Vietnam War and drug prohibition, and for gay rights. 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I'm certain that you don't have to be told who Allen Ginsberg [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6711] is, and you might think on how lucky it is that you happen to be in Montreal [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q340] and he is here at the same time. Last night he was at York University [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q849751] in Toronto [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q172], and tomorrow he's going to be in Ottawa [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1930], and we're going to sap an awful lot of his energy. Allen is, I think, the most noted poet we've had over the last couple of decades, in the world, and as you're going to find out and as you already know, one of the super-poets in terms of writing poetry, as well. I'd like to give you, without any more cogitation, Mr. Allen Ginsberg. \n\nAudience\n00:18:13\nApplause.\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:18:23\nGeorge Bowering [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1239280], who I've known a long time, asked me to read a poem that I haven't read through but once before, called \"Angkor Wat\". So I'll try that. It's middle-sized, like, ten minutes, probably. What it is, is notations taken down in the course of one night in Cambodia [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q424], in Siem Reap [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q11711], which is outside of Angkor Wat [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q43473], a town outside of the ruins.\n \nUnknown\n00:18:55\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:18:56\nReads \"Angkor Wat\" [from Angkor Wat]. \n \nAudience\n00:41:32\nApplause [cut off].\n \nUnknown\n00:41:37\nSilence [cut or edit made in tape].  \n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:41:45\nI want to read a couple poems from a book published in Toronto by Anansi Press, or one poem from that. This is written in Saigon [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1854], so it's about a week, yes it's about...the same week, I think. Oh this is...a week before. \n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:42:19\nReads “Understand that this is a Dream” [from Airplane Dreams].\n \nUnknown\n00:49:28\nSilence [cut or edit made in tape].\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:49:36\nI've been working on Blake's [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q41513] Songs of Innocence [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q20644964] and Experience [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q27890603], making tunes, or tuning the songs, so I'd like to sing some. \n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:49:48\nPerforms \"(a) Introduction / (b) The Shepherd”, accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later on Songs of Innocence and Experience]. \n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:52:30\nSinging them in the order in Experience, that they're in the book, what follows is \"The Echoing Green\".\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:52:40\nPerforms \"The Echoing Green\", accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later on Songs of Innocence and Experience]. \n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:54:29\n“The Little Boy Lost\" and \"The Little Boy Found\".\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:54:41\nPerforms \"The Little Boy Lost\" and \"The Little Boy Found\", accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later on Songs of Innocence and Experience]. \n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:56:14\nPerforms \"The Blossom\", accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later on Songs of Innocence and Experience]. \n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:57:16\nFrom Experience, the first song is \"Hear the Voice of the Bard\".\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:57:22\nPerforms \"Hear the Voice of the Bard\", accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later as “Introduction” on Songs of Innocence and Experience]. \n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:59:26\nAnd the last song in Experience...\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:59:33\nPerforms \"Introduction\", accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later on Songs of Innocence and Experience].\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n01:00:47.46\nAnd last from Innocence, \"The Laughing Song\".\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n01:00:50\nPerforms \"The Laughing Song\", accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later as “b) Laughing Song” on Songs of Innocence and Experience].\n \nAudience\n01:01:48\nApplause [cut off].\n\nEND\n01:01:52\n\n\nallen_ginsberg_i006-11-033-2.mp3 [File 2 of 2] \n\nAllen Ginsberg\n00:00:00\nReads \"Morning\" [from Planet News]. \n \nAudience\n00:02:17\nLaughter and applause.\n \nUnknown\n00:02:23\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:02:23\nReads \"Today\" [from Planet News]. \n \nAudience\n00:10:04\nApplause.\n \nUnknown\n00:10:07\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:10:08\nReads \"First party at Ken Kesey's with Hell's Angels\" [from Planet News]. \n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:11:22\nReads \"Uptown\" [from Planet News]. \n \nAudience\n00:12:20\nLaughter and applause\n \nUnknown\n00:12:29\n[Cut or edit made in tape].\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:12:30\nPerforms \"Holy Ghost on the Nod over the Body of Bliss\" [from Planet News]. \n \nAudience\n00:14:46\nApplause.\n \nUnknown\n00:14:52\nSilence [cut or edit made in tape].\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:14:59\nPerforms \"Hari Om Namah Shivaya” chant, accompanying himself on harmonium. \n \nAudience\n00:25:17\nApplause.\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:25:22\nPerforms \"The Lamb\", accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later on Songs of Innocence and Experience].\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:27:00\nPerforms \"The Little Black Boy\", accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later on Songs of Innocence and Experience].\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:30:11\nPerforms \"Holy Thursday\", accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later on Songs of Innocence and Experience].\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:31:37\nI'll finish the Blake with \"The Nurse's Song\". Get up a little closer to me.\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:31:52\nPerforms\"The Nurse's Song\", accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later as “Nurses Song” on Songs of Innocence and Experience].\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:32:27\nNo...start again.\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:32:32\nPerforms \"The Nurse's Song\", accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later as “Nurses Song” on Songs of Innocence and Experience].\n \nAudience\n00:35:58\nApplause.\n \nUnknown\n00:36:05\nSilence [cut or edit made in tape].\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:36:13\nThe continuation of a long poem on these dates. Some of those who are specialists, some of those who are specialists in poesy will know a text published in a book I've been reading from, Planet News [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7201132], called \"Wichita Vortex Sutra\". This is the continuation of the same long poem a year later, bringing the war, the mental war up to 1967. January, 1967. Related to the poem \"Wichita Vortex Sutra\" in that it's crossing the central part of the United States [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30] again, north of Kansas [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1558] through Nebraska [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1553], passing again by Lincoln [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q28260], Nebraska. A trip between Wichita, Kansas and Lincoln, Nebraska two...a year and a half earlier having been the subject of the text \"Wichita Vortex Sutra\". This continuation.\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:37:09\nReads [“Returning North of Vortex\", published later in The Fall of America: Poems of These States].\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:43:12\nA continuation of the same poem, between Kansas City [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q41819] and St. Louis [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q38022]. Middle of the long poem on these dates.\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:43:22\nReads [\"Kansas City to Saint Louis\", published later in The Fall of America: Poems of These States].\n \nAudience\n00:52:41\nApplause.\n \nUnknown\n00:52:46\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:52:47\nReads \"Car Crash\" [published later in The Fall of America: Poems of These States; audience laughter throughout].\n\nAllen Ginsberg\n00:58:17\nAnd July 4th, 1969. \"Orange hawkeye\"--Hawkeye is a New York state [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1384] flower, a flower that grows in New York state, very tiny, bright orange, eyeball with a tiny brown, brownish, purplish pupil.\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n00:58:35\nReads [\"Independence Day\", published later in The Fall of America: Poems of These States]\n \nAllen Ginsberg\n01:00:49\nFinish with a mantra. Well or, read one last poem, which has been distributed by Dakota Broadsides, they're people from Logos, or connected with Logos, I think. Is that not right? Yeah. I'll pass these out, I think. It's a poem written in Grant Park [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q159085] on August 28th, '68, during the Democratic Convention. Uh, Grant Park, the day after the election of, or the day after the nomination of Humphrey [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q209989]. \n \nAllen Ginsberg\n01:01:27\nReads unnamed poem.\n \nAudience\n01:02:25\nApplause and laughter [cut off].\n \nEND\n01:02:31\n"],"Note":["[{\"note\":\"Year-Specific Information: \\n\\nIn 1969, Ginsberg had published Airplane Dreams: Compositions from Journals. In June of 1969, Ginsberg recorded a series of William Blake’s poetry set to music, which was released by MGM records in 1970. Close friend Jack Kerouac died on October 21, 1969, which prompted Allen to write his long elegy, “Memory Gardens”. In December, Ginsberg testified in court at the “Chicago Seven” trial of protesters in the 1968 Democratic National Convention.\",\"type\":\"General\"},{\"note\":\"Local Connections:\\n\\nAllen Ginsberg not only became a household name and a symbol for youth in North America during the 60’s and 70’s, he led the ‘Beat’ poetry movement, was a world traveler, a defender of civil and human rights, a teacher and spiritual guide. 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Unknown amount of time elapsed].\\n \\nGeorge Bowering\\n00:16:41\\nWelcome to the...welcome to the fourth—third week of the fourth series of our readings here at Sir George [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q326342] and this one is a special one, partly in that it was, it is being presented by a combination of the daytime Arts Student Association and the evening Arts Student Association, and not simply on the normal schedule. I'm certain that you don't have to be told who Allen Ginsberg [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6711] is, and you might think on how lucky it is that you happen to be in Montreal [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q340] and he is here at the same time. Last night he was at York University [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q849751] in Toronto [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q172], and tomorrow he's going to be in Ottawa [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1930], and we're going to sap an awful lot of his energy. Allen is, I think, the most noted poet we've had over the last couple of decades, in the world, and as you're going to find out and as you already know, one of the super-poets in terms of writing poetry, as well. I'd like to give you, without any more cogitation, Mr. Allen Ginsberg. \\n\\nAudience\\n00:18:13\\nApplause.\\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:18:23\\nGeorge Bowering [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1239280], who I've known a long time, asked me to read a poem that I haven't read through but once before, called \\\"Angkor Wat\\\". So I'll try that. It's middle-sized, like, ten minutes, probably. What it is, is notations taken down in the course of one night in Cambodia [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q424], in Siem Reap [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q11711], which is outside of Angkor Wat [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q43473], a town outside of the ruins.\\n \\nUnknown\\n00:18:55\\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:18:56\\nReads \\\"Angkor Wat\\\" [from Angkor Wat]. \\n \\nAudience\\n00:41:32\\nApplause [cut off].\\n \\nUnknown\\n00:41:37\\nSilence [cut or edit made in tape].  \\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:41:45\\nI want to read a couple poems from a book published in Toronto by Anansi Press, or one poem from that. This is written in Saigon [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1854], so it's about a week, yes it's about...the same week, I think. Oh this is...a week before. \\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:42:19\\nReads “Understand that this is a Dream” [from Airplane Dreams].\\n \\nUnknown\\n00:49:28\\nSilence [cut or edit made in tape].\\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:49:36\\nI've been working on Blake's [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q41513] Songs of Innocence [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q20644964] and Experience [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q27890603], making tunes, or tuning the songs, so I'd like to sing some. \\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:49:48\\nPerforms \\\"(a) Introduction / (b) The Shepherd”, accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later on Songs of Innocence and Experience]. \\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:52:30\\nSinging them in the order in Experience, that they're in the book, what follows is \\\"The Echoing Green\\\".\\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:52:40\\nPerforms \\\"The Echoing Green\\\", accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later on Songs of Innocence and Experience]. \\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:54:29\\n“The Little Boy Lost\\\" and \\\"The Little Boy Found\\\".\\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:54:41\\nPerforms \\\"The Little Boy Lost\\\" and \\\"The Little Boy Found\\\", accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later on Songs of Innocence and Experience]. \\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:56:14\\nPerforms \\\"The Blossom\\\", accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later on Songs of Innocence and Experience]. \\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:57:16\\nFrom Experience, the first song is \\\"Hear the Voice of the Bard\\\".\\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:57:22\\nPerforms \\\"Hear the Voice of the Bard\\\", accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later as “Introduction” on Songs of Innocence and Experience]. \\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:59:26\\nAnd the last song in Experience...\\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:59:33\\nPerforms \\\"Introduction\\\", accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later on Songs of Innocence and Experience].\\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n01:00:47.46\\nAnd last from Innocence, \\\"The Laughing Song\\\".\\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n01:00:50\\nPerforms \\\"The Laughing Song\\\", accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later as “b) Laughing Song” on Songs of Innocence and Experience].\\n \\nAudience\\n01:01:48\\nApplause [cut off].\\n\\nEND\\n01:01:52\\n\",\"notes\":\"Allen Ginsberg reads from Angkor Wat (Fulcrum Press, 1968), Planet News (City Lights Books, 1968), as well as pieces that were published later in The Fall of America: Poems of These States (City Lights Books, 1973). 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Get up a little closer to me.\\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:31:52\\nPerforms\\\"The Nurse's Song\\\", accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later as “Nurses Song” on Songs of Innocence and Experience].\\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:32:27\\nNo...start again.\\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:32:32\\nPerforms \\\"The Nurse's Song\\\", accompanying himself on harmonium [recorded later as “Nurses Song” on Songs of Innocence and Experience].\\n \\nAudience\\n00:35:58\\nApplause.\\n \\nUnknown\\n00:36:05\\nSilence [cut or edit made in tape].\\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:36:13\\nThe continuation of a long poem on these dates. Some of those who are specialists, some of those who are specialists in poesy will know a text published in a book I've been reading from, Planet News [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7201132], called \\\"Wichita Vortex Sutra\\\". This is the continuation of the same long poem a year later, bringing the war, the mental war up to 1967. January, 1967. Related to the poem \\\"Wichita Vortex Sutra\\\" in that it's crossing the central part of the United States [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30] again, north of Kansas [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1558] through Nebraska [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1553], passing again by Lincoln [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q28260], Nebraska. A trip between Wichita, Kansas and Lincoln, Nebraska two...a year and a half earlier having been the subject of the text \\\"Wichita Vortex Sutra\\\". This continuation.\\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:37:09\\nReads [“Returning North of Vortex\\\", published later in The Fall of America: Poems of These States].\\n \\nAllen Ginsberg\\n00:43:12\\nA continuation of the same poem, between Kansas City [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q41819] and St. Louis [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q38022]. 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These are poems that will soon be published in a collection that I think it's going to be called The Grand Concourse, that some of you will know is the main street in the Bronx. When I find out what people think of the sight of the Grand Concourse who don't know that it's the main street in the Bronx, you know, they think I'm pretty pompous, but you know it's just another version of something like Flatbush Avenue or something like that. How they got this kind of name for the Bronx, I don't know. This is a poem called, by the way, I don't think I'm going to say too much in between these poems, I'm just going to read them, unless something happens that I will particularly want to say. \"Letter\".\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:01:39\nReads \"Letter\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:04:17\nThis one is called \"A Bombadier's Landscape\".\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:04:28\nReads \"A Bombadier's Landscape\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:05:54\nThis one is titled \"Called Home\" and it was the title of another collection of poems that I put together. \"Called Home\", I always liked this title, you know, and sort of found out later on what it meant, I always liked it, I wish I could have other titles that were sort of, that I liked as much.\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:06:27\nReads \"Called Home\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:07:39\nReads \"Something\" [published later under a different title in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:08:06\nReads \"Lost Song\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:09:04\nThis is a little poem called \"Davey\" for my son, Davey.\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:09:16\nReads \"Davey\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:10:14\nThis is a poem I recently finished, it's called \"The Quiet\", and it's his reply to me. Because you understand that, all of this weight of seriousness, is supposed to lift the whole scene, which is what it's all about, you know, just lift the whole thing. Not to go down, you know, but to just lift it. So this is his, I never read this one before, but this is his response to me.\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:10:52\nReads \"The Quiet\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far]. \n \nMilton Kessler\n00:12:08\nThis one is called \"I Am No One Else\", which is very important to me, you know, I'm sort of a, I have a kind of involuntary independence and sometimes I would like to try to imitate somebody else's life or lifestyle, or anything but it's just a hopeless case and I can't ever manage it. This is \"I Am No One Else\".\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:12:41\nReads \"I Am No One Else\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:14:08\nI didn't read that too well, I really like that poem I don't want to mess it up, you know, but it's really very hard to be, to say a very, very tender kind of poem, because I'm not so tender, so I have a lot of trouble to be quiet, you know, because I can scream from here back to Brooklyn [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18419] if I wanted to. This is the last of the poems in this particular part of the sequence. It's a little poem called \"Surprise\", I read it this afternoon. I've had the most amazing response sometimes, at places, when I go very often to the anti-war readings I read these poems, very often this one. And it always sort of surprises me you know, that it's alright. \"Surprise\". Let me tell you a little about this situation--but if I tell you too much about it then I'll read it, you know, I can talk more and it's a little poem. But it was after a big war-type reading at the Loeb Center in New York, and after that, everyone went out, you know, and roaming around all night, and then about 4 am or something like that I got on the subway and went out to my parents' place in Rockaway [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q62569], New York, on the ocean. And when I walked into the place, to their new house, I went to the--I walked in and saw that they were sleeping. And I had such a strong feeling, because when I was a kid, you know, and I used to come in late, either the door was locked, you know, the door was locked or there was this always this--come in after eleven, and you know, you won't get, you know, after eleven the door is locked, climb in through the fire escape or something. But here, you know, it was alright, and there it was and I stood and looked at them sleeping. They're both about 70. And by the way, extraordinarily happy. The poem is called \"Surprise\".\n\nMilton Kessler\n00:16:53\nReads \"Surprise\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:18:05\nNow I have these three poems that I call the “Willow Poems”. One of them isn't finished, because the last two lines of the middle one are just, I got into a kind of pleasure in saying \"O\", you know, “Oh, Joy, Oh”, and like that and sometimes I just enjoyed it so much I was just kind of, and then it didn't mean anything, it you know, I was just kind of enjoying it, which is great, you know, but it's great to enjoy it and also is maybe good, so you make them together like that, so here are the three \"Willow Songs\". This one, well here it is, it's perfectly clear.\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:18:58\nReads \"Willow Songs\" [part 1, published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:19:53\nIt's just like that beautiful girl, and you know, if you teach some place, what do you do? The last thing you do is hang around the school, stay away from it, you know, and so here I stay around the house, and here, I'm around the house during the day, you know, and so is this beautiful fifteen year old girl, and I'm watching her walk back and forth, you know, of course this is a song of innocence, you understand, this what she's got to worry about is me. Well I won't read the second one because the end of it isn't any good. But here is a little lyric, it's one of the Willow poems. I've written, it seems to me, an unusual number of poems that have something to do with my family. And whenever there's ever any suggestion of that kind coming from the world of important poetry, I really feel like just smashing somebody's head right in, nothing bothers me more than that, you know. The implication that something is important to you really isn't important, you know, just do what you please, that's all. But nevertheless, I do notice that there's a certain--sometimes I write a lot of these things. Here's a lyric. This is the last of them. It's a little poem.\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:21:38\nReads \"Willow Songs\" [part 3, published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:22:26\nNow this is a little different kind of series here. And this one is called, the first of these is called \"Summer's End\". This is a long poem that I wrote at a time, it's only some times that it's of any interest what these things develop out of, you know, but this one I think is kind of interesting. I had this very bad, I pulled a muscle in my calf, climbing a mountain, actually, in New Hampshire [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q759], where the mountains aren't too high, you know. And I was in a barn, I was at the MacDowell Colony [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3273867], and I was in a barn, and I couldn't get out, I couldn't move any place, I had one big jar, you know, next to the floor, sort of thing, and I just stayed there, and they would come around and bring me some food, finally about a week later I couldn't do anything and somebody--Hortense Calisher [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q436082]--I don't know if you know who she is, just finally came along and took my car, drove me to the airport, and that was that, kept the car. But while I was lying there, I said there's no big deal about it, but I have had asthma since I was seven, and the one thing about that, you know a little bit like Proust [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7199], if you just lie around, you just lie there and then you sort of, alright, so here you are. So you just do something I guess, so this poem, \"Summer's End\", there are a lot of things you do with these things lying around. I'll tell you--\"Summer's End\" alright, \"Summer's End\".\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:24:35\nReads \"Summer's End\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:28:20\nLittle poem, \"Russian Joke\".\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:28:26\nReads \"Russian Joke\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:29:02\n\"The Confusion: May 1969\". I’ve never read this one before, nor is it finished, nor is it any good, as far as I can tell.\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:29:17\nReads \"The Confusion: May 1969\".\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:30:08\nThis one is called \"A Dream of Weeping\".\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:30:14\nReads \"A Dream of Weeping\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:31:24\nHere's a brand new one, this is the last poem I've written, this one. We could stop for a few minutes, you know, if you're tired. I'm really terrified usually before this begins, but once it's going, you know, then it's alright, it's really very good. It's called \"The Moment of No Recovery\". Excuse me, \"The Moment of No Recovery\". Maybe the first one is better than this one. \"The Moment of No Recovery\", \"The Moment of No Discovery\", no this is better. It has only the slightest bit to do, by the way, with a woman in my family who I've recently come to know about, her name is Minnie, she is an aunt, she's my father's sister, she's been in the Rockland State Hospital [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q22061059] for over forty years. Only recently did I find out about her existence. And I remember when I talked to Allen  [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6711], oh a few months ago, and he said something, he was just talking about the kind of people who are locked up, and he said it's like mini, you know, like mini, and I said that's it! My aunt Minnie, I have this aunt, and he said, well, go, go and see her. You know, what's happening there, how many times she could have been alright, well of course, this is just a little bit to her maybe, but I think I may have been thinking about it a little. Other things too. \"The Moment of No Recovery\". I have to learn, I think, how to read this poem. \n \nMilton Kessler\n00:33:49\nReads \"The Moment of No Recovery\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:35:10\nI've written quite a lot about women, and I have read so many of those, I know, but here is one that is a poem about--titled \"Anne\". When I read this poem in a Pittsburgh [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1342] high school, about three weeks ago, the teacher decided to call the whole thing off. After I read it, after I read it, and somebody asked me about why I read it and I said I read it because I liked it very much and because I--it was about women, you know, and it was kind of a poem of praise about women, and at that point this woman got up and called and said we have to move the chairs into another room, that's actually what she said, we have to take some of these chairs into another room now, sorry. What a bitch. The worst I've ever seen, she was just unbelievable. Let's not have any doubts about her, it was the Langley High School [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q15241542] in Pittsburgh. This poem is titled \"Anne\".\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:36:48\nReads \"Anne\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:38:55\nThis poem is titled \"Chad Gadya: One Little Goat\"--a Chad Gadya is a passover song and I assume it's a round that has its sense, the idea that God makes it right. It has just the tiniest little autobiographical fact about it, which is that my grandfather actually sold papers in Brooklyn, so this is the beginning of the thing.\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:39:38\nReads \"Chad Gadya: One Little Goat\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:41:4\nThis one is titled \"The Voice of the Soldier\", no one's saying anything about it.\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:42:00\nReads \"The Voice of the Soldier\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:43:00\nThat's a song of innocence. I remember I showed this poem to a student of mine who was in the Israeli army [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q58967], and he immediately said \"No, it's not like that, that's not--it's not like that\" and he described how someone had had his leg blown off and what he said, he didn't say anything like this at all, he said to me, he said something else, and so of course I didn't mean that's the way I thought war was. This is the last one I'm going to read and it's one I haven't read. It's called \"A Good Death\", and it's a poem for Henry Thoreau [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q131149], it's \"A Good Death\" and it's for Henry Thoreau, and it's a century later. And it's the only time I tried, somebody just asked me, you know, it's to, to write something about Thoreau, which I thought would be absolutely impossible, but then as I started to read him, and I started to think of how I could never believe what he was saying, ever, like I could never believe so many affirmative, you know, things, and then I began to sort of see what--and I wrote this anyway. It was between Thoreau and me. You'll see what it sounds like.\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:44:51\nReads \"A Good Death\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\n \nMilton Kessler\n00:45:20\n--oh damn it. That's the trouble, that's the way I am, you know, make the last one you're going to read, you know, something you don't know.\n \nEND\n00:45:33\n"],"Note":["[{\"note\":\"Year-Specific Information:\\n\\nDuring 1969, Kessler was teaching at State University of New York. 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These are poems that will soon be published in a collection that I think it's going to be called The Grand Concourse, that some of you will know is the main street in the Bronx. When I find out what people think of the sight of the Grand Concourse who don't know that it's the main street in the Bronx, you know, they think I'm pretty pompous, but you know it's just another version of something like Flatbush Avenue or something like that. How they got this kind of name for the Bronx, I don't know. This is a poem called, by the way, I don't think I'm going to say too much in between these poems, I'm just going to read them, unless something happens that I will particularly want to say. \\\"Letter\\\".\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:01:39\\nReads \\\"Letter\\\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:04:17\\nThis one is called \\\"A Bombadier's Landscape\\\".\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:04:28\\nReads \\\"A Bombadier's Landscape\\\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:05:54\\nThis one is titled \\\"Called Home\\\" and it was the title of another collection of poems that I put together. \\\"Called Home\\\", I always liked this title, you know, and sort of found out later on what it meant, I always liked it, I wish I could have other titles that were sort of, that I liked as much.\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:06:27\\nReads \\\"Called Home\\\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:07:39\\nReads \\\"Something\\\" [published later under a different title in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:08:06\\nReads \\\"Lost Song\\\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:09:04\\nThis is a little poem called \\\"Davey\\\" for my son, Davey.\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:09:16\\nReads \\\"Davey\\\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:10:14\\nThis is a poem I recently finished, it's called \\\"The Quiet\\\", and it's his reply to me. Because you understand that, all of this weight of seriousness, is supposed to lift the whole scene, which is what it's all about, you know, just lift the whole thing. Not to go down, you know, but to just lift it. So this is his, I never read this one before, but this is his response to me.\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:10:52\\nReads \\\"The Quiet\\\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far]. \\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:12:08\\nThis one is called \\\"I Am No One Else\\\", which is very important to me, you know, I'm sort of a, I have a kind of involuntary independence and sometimes I would like to try to imitate somebody else's life or lifestyle, or anything but it's just a hopeless case and I can't ever manage it. This is \\\"I Am No One Else\\\".\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:12:41\\nReads \\\"I Am No One Else\\\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:14:08\\nI didn't read that too well, I really like that poem I don't want to mess it up, you know, but it's really very hard to be, to say a very, very tender kind of poem, because I'm not so tender, so I have a lot of trouble to be quiet, you know, because I can scream from here back to Brooklyn [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18419] if I wanted to. This is the last of the poems in this particular part of the sequence. It's a little poem called \\\"Surprise\\\", I read it this afternoon. I've had the most amazing response sometimes, at places, when I go very often to the anti-war readings I read these poems, very often this one. And it always sort of surprises me you know, that it's alright. \\\"Surprise\\\". Let me tell you a little about this situation--but if I tell you too much about it then I'll read it, you know, I can talk more and it's a little poem. But it was after a big war-type reading at the Loeb Center in New York, and after that, everyone went out, you know, and roaming around all night, and then about 4 am or something like that I got on the subway and went out to my parents' place in Rockaway [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q62569], New York, on the ocean. And when I walked into the place, to their new house, I went to the--I walked in and saw that they were sleeping. And I had such a strong feeling, because when I was a kid, you know, and I used to come in late, either the door was locked, you know, the door was locked or there was this always this--come in after eleven, and you know, you won't get, you know, after eleven the door is locked, climb in through the fire escape or something. But here, you know, it was alright, and there it was and I stood and looked at them sleeping. They're both about 70. And by the way, extraordinarily happy. The poem is called \\\"Surprise\\\".\\n\\nMilton Kessler\\n00:16:53\\nReads \\\"Surprise\\\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:18:05\\nNow I have these three poems that I call the “Willow Poems”. One of them isn't finished, because the last two lines of the middle one are just, I got into a kind of pleasure in saying \\\"O\\\", you know, “Oh, Joy, Oh”, and like that and sometimes I just enjoyed it so much I was just kind of, and then it didn't mean anything, it you know, I was just kind of enjoying it, which is great, you know, but it's great to enjoy it and also is maybe good, so you make them together like that, so here are the three \\\"Willow Songs\\\". This one, well here it is, it's perfectly clear.\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:18:58\\nReads \\\"Willow Songs\\\" [part 1, published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:19:53\\nIt's just like that beautiful girl, and you know, if you teach some place, what do you do? The last thing you do is hang around the school, stay away from it, you know, and so here I stay around the house, and here, I'm around the house during the day, you know, and so is this beautiful fifteen year old girl, and I'm watching her walk back and forth, you know, of course this is a song of innocence, you understand, this what she's got to worry about is me. Well I won't read the second one because the end of it isn't any good. But here is a little lyric, it's one of the Willow poems. I've written, it seems to me, an unusual number of poems that have something to do with my family. And whenever there's ever any suggestion of that kind coming from the world of important poetry, I really feel like just smashing somebody's head right in, nothing bothers me more than that, you know. The implication that something is important to you really isn't important, you know, just do what you please, that's all. But nevertheless, I do notice that there's a certain--sometimes I write a lot of these things. Here's a lyric. This is the last of them. It's a little poem.\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:21:38\\nReads \\\"Willow Songs\\\" [part 3, published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:22:26\\nNow this is a little different kind of series here. And this one is called, the first of these is called \\\"Summer's End\\\". This is a long poem that I wrote at a time, it's only some times that it's of any interest what these things develop out of, you know, but this one I think is kind of interesting. I had this very bad, I pulled a muscle in my calf, climbing a mountain, actually, in New Hampshire [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q759], where the mountains aren't too high, you know. And I was in a barn, I was at the MacDowell Colony [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3273867], and I was in a barn, and I couldn't get out, I couldn't move any place, I had one big jar, you know, next to the floor, sort of thing, and I just stayed there, and they would come around and bring me some food, finally about a week later I couldn't do anything and somebody--Hortense Calisher [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q436082]--I don't know if you know who she is, just finally came along and took my car, drove me to the airport, and that was that, kept the car. But while I was lying there, I said there's no big deal about it, but I have had asthma since I was seven, and the one thing about that, you know a little bit like Proust [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7199], if you just lie around, you just lie there and then you sort of, alright, so here you are. So you just do something I guess, so this poem, \\\"Summer's End\\\", there are a lot of things you do with these things lying around. I'll tell you--\\\"Summer's End\\\" alright, \\\"Summer's End\\\".\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:24:35\\nReads \\\"Summer's End\\\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:28:20\\nLittle poem, \\\"Russian Joke\\\".\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:28:26\\nReads \\\"Russian Joke\\\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:29:02\\n\\\"The Confusion: May 1969\\\". I’ve never read this one before, nor is it finished, nor is it any good, as far as I can tell.\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:29:17\\nReads \\\"The Confusion: May 1969\\\".\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:30:08\\nThis one is called \\\"A Dream of Weeping\\\".\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:30:14\\nReads \\\"A Dream of Weeping\\\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:31:24\\nHere's a brand new one, this is the last poem I've written, this one. We could stop for a few minutes, you know, if you're tired. I'm really terrified usually before this begins, but once it's going, you know, then it's alright, it's really very good. It's called \\\"The Moment of No Recovery\\\". Excuse me, \\\"The Moment of No Recovery\\\". Maybe the first one is better than this one. \\\"The Moment of No Recovery\\\", \\\"The Moment of No Discovery\\\", no this is better. It has only the slightest bit to do, by the way, with a woman in my family who I've recently come to know about, her name is Minnie, she is an aunt, she's my father's sister, she's been in the Rockland State Hospital [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q22061059] for over forty years. Only recently did I find out about her existence. And I remember when I talked to Allen  [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6711], oh a few months ago, and he said something, he was just talking about the kind of people who are locked up, and he said it's like mini, you know, like mini, and I said that's it! My aunt Minnie, I have this aunt, and he said, well, go, go and see her. You know, what's happening there, how many times she could have been alright, well of course, this is just a little bit to her maybe, but I think I may have been thinking about it a little. Other things too. \\\"The Moment of No Recovery\\\". I have to learn, I think, how to read this poem. \\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:33:49\\nReads \\\"The Moment of No Recovery\\\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:35:10\\nI've written quite a lot about women, and I have read so many of those, I know, but here is one that is a poem about--titled \\\"Anne\\\". When I read this poem in a Pittsburgh [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1342] high school, about three weeks ago, the teacher decided to call the whole thing off. After I read it, after I read it, and somebody asked me about why I read it and I said I read it because I liked it very much and because I--it was about women, you know, and it was kind of a poem of praise about women, and at that point this woman got up and called and said we have to move the chairs into another room, that's actually what she said, we have to take some of these chairs into another room now, sorry. What a bitch. The worst I've ever seen, she was just unbelievable. Let's not have any doubts about her, it was the Langley High School [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q15241542] in Pittsburgh. This poem is titled \\\"Anne\\\".\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:36:48\\nReads \\\"Anne\\\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:38:55\\nThis poem is titled \\\"Chad Gadya: One Little Goat\\\"--a Chad Gadya is a passover song and I assume it's a round that has its sense, the idea that God makes it right. It has just the tiniest little autobiographical fact about it, which is that my grandfather actually sold papers in Brooklyn, so this is the beginning of the thing.\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:39:38\\nReads \\\"Chad Gadya: One Little Goat\\\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:41:4\\nThis one is titled \\\"The Voice of the Soldier\\\", no one's saying anything about it.\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:42:00\\nReads \\\"The Voice of the Soldier\\\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:43:00\\nThat's a song of innocence. I remember I showed this poem to a student of mine who was in the Israeli army [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q58967], and he immediately said \\\"No, it's not like that, that's not--it's not like that\\\" and he described how someone had had his leg blown off and what he said, he didn't say anything like this at all, he said to me, he said something else, and so of course I didn't mean that's the way I thought war was. This is the last one I'm going to read and it's one I haven't read. It's called \\\"A Good Death\\\", and it's a poem for Henry Thoreau [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q131149], it's \\\"A Good Death\\\" and it's for Henry Thoreau, and it's a century later. And it's the only time I tried, somebody just asked me, you know, it's to, to write something about Thoreau, which I thought would be absolutely impossible, but then as I started to read him, and I started to think of how I could never believe what he was saying, ever, like I could never believe so many affirmative, you know, things, and then I began to sort of see what--and I wrote this anyway. It was between Thoreau and me. You'll see what it sounds like.\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:44:51\\nReads \\\"A Good Death\\\" [published later in Woodlawn North and Sailing Too Far].\\n \\nMilton Kessler\\n00:45:20\\n--oh damn it. That's the trouble, that's the way I am, you know, make the last one you're going to read, you know, something you don't know.\\n \\nEND\\n00:45:33\\n\",\"notes\":\"Milton Kessler reads poems published later in both Woodlawn North (Impressions Workshop, 1970) and Sailing Too Far (Harper & Row 1973).\\n\\n00:00- Unidentified male introduces [INDEX: The Bronx, Binghamton New York]\\n00:13- Milton Kessler introduces The Grand Concourse poems [INDEX: The Grand Concourse]\\n01:39- Reads “Letter”\\n04:17- Reads “A Bombardier’s Landscape”\\n05:54- Introduces “Called Home”\\n06:27- Reads “Called Home”\\n07:39- Reads “Something”\\n08:06- Reads “Lost Song”\\n09:04- Reads “Davey” [INDEX: Poem for his son]\\n10:14- Introduces “The Quiet”\\n10:52- Reads “The Quiet”\\n12:08- Introduces \\\"I Am No One Else\\\"\\n12:41- Reads \\\"I Am No One Else\\\"\\n14:08- Introduces “Surprise” [INDEX: Anti-war readings, Loeb Center, New York]\\n16:53- Reads “Surprise”\\n18:05- Introduces “Willow Songs” (series of three, only reads two)\\n18:58- Reads “Willow Songs”\\n19:53- Introduces second poem of “Willow Songs” [INDEX: Lyric poem]\\n21:38- Reads second poem of “Willow Songs”\\n22:26- Introduces “Summer’s End” [INDEX: McDowell Colony in New Hampshire, Hortense Calisher, Proust]\\n24:35- Reads “Summer’s End”\\n28:20- Reads “Russian Joke”\\n29:02- Introduces “The Confusion: May 1969”\\n29:17- Reads “The Confusion: May 1969”\\n30:08- Reads “A Dream of Weeping”\\n31:24- Introduces “The Moment of No Recovery” [INDEX: Allen Ginsberg, Rockland State \\tHospital, New York]\\n33:49- Reads “The Moment of No Recovery”\\n35:10- Introduces “Anne” [INDEX: Langley High School, Pittsburgh]\\n36:48- Reads “Anne”\\n38:55- Introduces “Chad Gadya: One Little Goat” [INDEX: Passover Songs]\\n39:38- Reads “Chad Gadya: One Little Goat”\\n41:45- Reads “The Voice of the Soldier”\\n43:00- Explains “The Voice of the Soldier” and Introduces “A Good Death” [INDEX: Soldiers, war, Henry Thoreau]\\n44:51- Reads “A Good Death”\\n45:33.56- END OF RECORDING\\n\\nHoward Fink List of Poems:\\n14/11/69\\nOn one 5”, single track, mono, reel, @ 3 3/4 ips, lasting 50 mins\\n \\n1.  “Letter”\\n2.  “A Bombardier’s Landscape\\n3.  “Called Home”\\n4.  “Something\\n5.  “Lost Song\\n6.  “Davey”\\n7.  “The Quiet”\\n8.  “I am no one else”\\n9.  “Surprise”\\n10. “Willow Poems”\\n11. “Summers End”\\n12. “Russian Joke”\\n13. “The Confusion: May 1969”\\n14.  “A Dream of Weeping”\\n15.  “The Moment of no Recovery”\\n16. “Anne”\\n17.  1st line: “Oh mister, I am your grandfather...”\\n18. “The Voice of the Soldier”\\n19.  “A Good Death”\",\"title\":\"\",\"credit\":\"\",\"caption\":\"\",\"content_type\":\"Sound Recording\",\"featured\":\"Yes\",\"public_access_url\":\"https://montreal.spokenweb.ca/sgw-poetry-readings/milton-kessler-at-sgwu-1969/\"}]"],"score":1.8470539},{"id":"1283","cataloger_name":["Bindu,Reddy"],"partnerInstitution":["Concordia University"],"collection_source_collection":["SGWU Reading Series-Concordia University Department of English fonds"],"source_collection_label":["SGWU Reading Series-Concordia University Department of English fonds"],"collection_contributing_unit":["Records Management and Archives"],"source_collection_uri":[""],"collection_image_url":[""],"collection_source_collection_description":["The fonds consists of some administrative records of the SGWU Department of English and the Concordia Department of English between 1971 and 2000. 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She completed her Bachelor of Arts and a Master of Arts at the University of British Columbia. There she met poets George Bowering, Frank Davey, David Dawson, James Reid, Fred Wah and critic and professor Warren Tallman and was influential in creating the Tish magazine in 1961. However, she never published her own work in the magazine as she wrote prose. Her first publication was Sketches, published by George Bowering via the English Department of Sir George Williams University in 1970. Hindmarch wrote two novels, The Peter Stories (Coach House Press, 1976) and A Birth Account (New Star Books, 1967), which was followed by Watery part of the world (Douglas & McIntyre, 1988). 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Persky co-founded the Georgia Straight Writing Supplements in the late 60’s, which led to what is now known as New Star Books. Persky and other writers began to publish the works of Milton Acorn, Gerry Gilbert, Jack Spicer, George Bowering, Fred Wah, bill bisset and Daphne Marlatt along with many others. Persky has taught at the Northwest College, Malaspina College, Simon Fraser University and at the Capilano University. Persky published Lives of the French Symbolist poets (White Rabbit Press, 1967),  The Day (Georgia Straight Writing Supplement, 1971), George Bowering published An oral literary history of Vancouver in 1972 in the Beaver Kosmos Series, Slaves (New Star Books, 1974), and Wrestling the angel (Talonbooks, 1976). His first political-themed books, Son of Socred (New Star, 1979), The House That Jack Built (New Star, 1980) and Bennett II (New Star, 1983) gained wide-spread acclaim. His other many publications include At the Lenin Shipyard: Poland and the Rise of the Solidarity Trade Union (New Star, 1981), The Solidarity Sourcebook (New Star, 1981), he edited Flaunting It: A Decade of Gay Journalism From the Body Politic with Henry Flam (New Star, 1982), The Holy Forest with introductions by Robin Blaser and Robert Creeley (Coach Hosue Press, 1998), Buddy’s: Meditations on Desire (New Star Press, 1989) which won a Hubert Evans Non-Fiction Prize nomination, Then we Take Berlin: Stories from the Other Side of Europe (Knopf, 1995), On Kiddie Porn: Sexual Representation, Free Speech and the Robin Sharpe Case with John Dixon (New Star, 2001) and most recently Top Sentence: A Writer’s Education (New Star, 2007). He has been a media commentator for the CBC, and has written for The Globe and Mail, the Vancouver Sun, Saturday Night, The Tyee and dooneyscafe.com as well as other journals. 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Stan Persky reads from Wrestling the Angel (Talonbooks, 1976) as well as a few unpublished poems."],"contents":["gladys_hindmarch_i086-11-020.mp3 [File 1 of 2]\n\nGeorge Bowering\n00:00:00\nAnother Vancouver [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q24639] night in the series, this will be, this is the final reading of the fall series, and will be picked up again in January. As you know from the propaganda sheets, we're presenting what I consider to be the centre of the Vancouver writing scene. Gladys Hindmarch has been in that scene for ten years, and was associated with all those people who've got all kinds of names over the last few years such as West Coast movement and the Tish movement and the New Wave Canada [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16] and that sort of business. And Stan Persky [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2330087], was as much related if not more because he is also a sort of superstar of little magazines [audience laughter] in San Francisco [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q62], and made the usual move up to Vancouver, what, three years ago? And has now become the superstar of the Vancouver writing scene. What's going to happen is that the reading will be split into two pieces. At the beginning, Stan is going to introduce Gladys, and then there will be a break of about ten minutes, and then Gladys is going to introduce Stan. So, I'd like to give you \"Stan and Gladys Evening\".\n \nStan Persky\n00:01:43\n\"Beginning again and again is a natural thing, even when there is a series. Beginning again and again and again, explaining composition and time is a natural thing. It is understood by this time that everything's the same, except composition and time. Composition, and the time of the composition and the time in the composition. Everything is the same except composition and as the composition is different, and always going to be different, everything is not the same. Everything is not the same as the time when, of the composition, and the time in the composition is different. The composition is different, that is certain.\" Gertrude Stein [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q188385].\n \nGladys Hindmarch\n00:02:40\nWhen I whistle, just imagine that it's a very good whistler. \"They know what they're doing\".\n \nGladys Hindmarch\n00:02:53\nReads \"They know what they're doing\" [published later as “Callback” in The Watery Part of the World].\n \nGladys Hindmarch\n00:16:08\nThat's the third in a group of stories, or series of stories that I'm writing. [Audience laughter]. I haven't got a title for this one, it's still in the first day on the trip but it's the seventh story. I call it \"The [Salad (?)] Story\" in my head but I'll have to find a title for it.\n \nGladys Hindmarch\n00:16:54\nReads [\"Nothing is Simple\", published later in The Watery Part of the World].\n \nGladys Hindmarch\n00:33:30\nAnother, I've got lots of others, but I'm just going to read one other short one that's got a number of daydream passages that I don't think I--it's necessary to know which of the day--I mean you can, I think you can get it, it's just call it \"Number 12\" right now it also hasn't got a title. \"Outside deck scene\"--I guess that George [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1239280] didn't say, I used to work as a mess girl and a cook on a West Coast freighter called the Tahsis Prince, I worked on four or five of them because I was relief working, but the main one I worked on went up the west coast of Vancouver Island [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q170479], and not, they have great difficulty getting women to go out there, maybe obvious reasons in these stories so I could almost get a job on it, whereas the other ones I could get jobs if nobody was available, but since on this particular boat, usually nobody was available. One time I was leaving shopping in the Army and Navy and a guy came down the hall and said, Look you know, they're trying to get a hold of you, you've gotta go up there. And I said, come on, now, and sort of walked me back to the hall. And one Christmas run there were fifty one men--lots of people don't want to go out at Christmas, but a lot of the seamen, just work in the summer, so if they can get a job for two weeks they take it. They had fifty one cards on the board and not one of them--and there was a call for a cook, which was a girl's job and a call for an able seaman, and not one of the fifty-one men would go out on the boat--they got a guy who hadn't registered yet went out. This is an end of summer trip, it's not rough at all.\n \nAnnotation\n00:35:42\nReads [\"How It Feels”, published later in The Watery Part of the World].\n \nEND\n00:45:52\n[Cut off abruptly].\n\nstan_persky_i006-11-137.mp3 [File 2 of 2]\n\nGladys Hindmarch\n00:00:00\nStan and I both view Gertrude Stein as sort of eternal and I find that I can never read more than two pages of her at a time, like you just sort of become hypnotized, but she's pretty good to...like when I'm starting, trying to get into something to start to write and if I just read, you know just open one of her books at any sort of page, you know just at random and I just read two or three sentences, sometimes a paragraph, never more than that...and so I'm going to introduce Stan with a couple of Gertrude Stein sentences.  \"There's singularly nothing that makes a difference, a difference in beginning, and in middle, and in ending, except that each generation has something different at which they are all looking. By this I mean so simply that anybody knows it that composition is the difference which makes each and all of them then different from other generations, and this is what makes everything different, otherwise they're all like, and everybody knows it because everybody says it.\" Stan Persky. \n \nStan Persky\n00:01:13\nYeah, I'm doing fine. The reading that I'm going to give is called \"The Day\", and what it is is pieces of everything that I'm onto right now, and so you have to bear with however unable to follow it out. And of course, like what we're trying to do is give you some sense of what it's like to be out where we are. \n\nStan Persky\n00:01:45\nReads \"Notebook, around August 20th, 1969\". \n \nStan Persky\n00:03:34.14\nIs that unbearably fast?\n \nStan Persky\n00:03:38.89\nReads \"Notebook, around August 25th, 1969\".\n \nStan Persky\n00:07:16\n\"Notebook, Sunday, August 29th or 30th, 1969\"  You can see the energy this takes, it's just...[laughter]. This is barely doing it. \"Jim and Franz...\" I'm going to try to read one of these a little more slowly, maybe.\n \nStan Persky\n00:07:42\nReads \"Notebook, Sunday, August 29th or 30th, 1969\".\n \nStan Persky\n00:11:45\nThis one's a longer pull if that's possible. \"The Marriage\". Angela, this is the gossip for you [laughter]. Coming in here, I was thinking, who's sitting in the room, and you'd like to hear your names [laughter]...Arnie...\"The Marriage\". \n \nStan Persky\n00:12:23\nReads \"The Marriage\". \n\nAudience\n00:19:00\nLaughter. \n\nStan Persky\n00:19:04\nTricky dick! [laughter].\n \nStan Persky\n00:19:10\nResumes reading \"The Marriage\".\n \nAudience\n00:27:54\nApplause [cut off]. \n\nUnknown\n00:27:55\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\n \nStan Persky\n00:27:57\nReads \"To Gladys\".\n \nAudience\n00:34:54\nLaughter.\n \nStan Persky\n00:34:59\n\"October 24th, 1969\". Did I write this for this, did I write this reading? \n \nStan Persky\n00:35:08\nReads \"October 24th, 1969\".\n \nStan Persky\n00:36:46\nReads \"Jamie\". \n \nStan Persky\n00:39:49\nAnd the last three...\n \nUnknown\n00:39:52\n[Cut or edit made in tape here. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\n \nStan Persky\n00:39:53\nReads \"Wednesday, November 5th, 1969, by Hunter's Creek\".\n \nStan Persky\n00:42:04\nReads \"Fred Study. Notebook, Friday, November 7th, 1969, Fred Study.\"\n \nStan Persky\n00:44:17\nAnd at last, to finish, as far as it's gone, or whatever it is, \"The Day\".\n \nStan Persky\n00:44:26\nReads \"The Day\".\n \nEND\n00:46:38\n[Cut off abruptly]."],"Note":["[{\"note\":\"Year-Specific Information: \\n\\nIn 1969, Gladys Hindmarch was writing and participating in the writing scene in Vancouver. No specific information could be found on Gladys Hindmarch during this year.\\n\\nIn 1969, Persky was living in Vancouver, was published in The Pacific Nation (Vancouver, 1969). 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As you know from the propaganda sheets, we're presenting what I consider to be the centre of the Vancouver writing scene. Gladys Hindmarch has been in that scene for ten years, and was associated with all those people who've got all kinds of names over the last few years such as West Coast movement and the Tish movement and the New Wave Canada [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16] and that sort of business. And Stan Persky [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2330087], was as much related if not more because he is also a sort of superstar of little magazines [audience laughter] in San Francisco [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q62], and made the usual move up to Vancouver, what, three years ago? And has now become the superstar of the Vancouver writing scene. What's going to happen is that the reading will be split into two pieces. At the beginning, Stan is going to introduce Gladys, and then there will be a break of about ten minutes, and then Gladys is going to introduce Stan. So, I'd like to give you \\\"Stan and Gladys Evening\\\".\\n \\nStan Persky\\n00:01:43\\n\\\"Beginning again and again is a natural thing, even when there is a series. Beginning again and again and again, explaining composition and time is a natural thing. It is understood by this time that everything's the same, except composition and time. Composition, and the time of the composition and the time in the composition. Everything is the same except composition and as the composition is different, and always going to be different, everything is not the same. Everything is not the same as the time when, of the composition, and the time in the composition is different. The composition is different, that is certain.\\\" Gertrude Stein [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q188385].\\n \\nGladys Hindmarch\\n00:02:40\\nWhen I whistle, just imagine that it's a very good whistler. \\\"They know what they're doing\\\".\\n \\nGladys Hindmarch\\n00:02:53\\nReads \\\"They know what they're doing\\\" [published later as “Callback” in The Watery Part of the World].\\n \\nGladys Hindmarch\\n00:16:08\\nThat's the third in a group of stories, or series of stories that I'm writing. [Audience laughter]. I haven't got a title for this one, it's still in the first day on the trip but it's the seventh story. 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One time I was leaving shopping in the Army and Navy and a guy came down the hall and said, Look you know, they're trying to get a hold of you, you've gotta go up there. And I said, come on, now, and sort of walked me back to the hall. And one Christmas run there were fifty one men--lots of people don't want to go out at Christmas, but a lot of the seamen, just work in the summer, so if they can get a job for two weeks they take it. They had fifty one cards on the board and not one of them--and there was a call for a cook, which was a girl's job and a call for an able seaman, and not one of the fifty-one men would go out on the boat--they got a guy who hadn't registered yet went out. This is an end of summer trip, it's not rough at all.\\n \\nAnnotation\\n00:35:42\\nReads [\\\"How It Feels”, published later in The Watery Part of the World].\\n \\nEND\\n00:45:52\\n[Cut off abruptly].\",\"notes\":\"Gladys Hindmarch reads a series of short stories later published in The Watery Part of the World (Douglas & McIntyre, 1988). \\n\\n00:00- George Bowering introduces reading. [INDEX: ‘Vancouver night’, final reading in fall series, January, ‘propaganda sheet’, centre of Vancouver writing scene, West Coast    movement, Tish movement, New Wave Canada, Stan Persky, little magazines, San Francisco, move to Vancouver, Stan introduces Gladys, intermission, Gladys introduces Stan.]\\n01:43- Stan Persky reads Gertrude Stein quote [INDEX: composition, series, composition, time.]\\n02:40- Gladys Hindmarch introduces “They Know What They’re Doing”. [INDEX: originally published in Writing (renamed GSWS) No.3, April 1970; and in Iron, No. 3 as recorded in The Watery Part of the World; perhaps later published as “Callback” in The Watery Part of the World (Douglas & McIntyre, 1988).]\\n02:53- Reads “They Know What They’re Doing”.\\n16:08- Introduces untitled story, dubbed “The Salad Story”, first line “Setting up supper is not nearly so slow...”. 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By this I mean so simply that anybody knows it that composition is the difference which makes each and all of them then different from other generations, and this is what makes everything different, otherwise they're all like, and everybody knows it because everybody says it.\\\" Stan Persky. \\n \\nStan Persky\\n00:01:13\\nYeah, I'm doing fine. The reading that I'm going to give is called \\\"The Day\\\", and what it is is pieces of everything that I'm onto right now, and so you have to bear with however unable to follow it out. And of course, like what we're trying to do is give you some sense of what it's like to be out where we are. \\n\\nStan Persky\\n00:01:45\\nReads \\\"Notebook, around August 20th, 1969\\\". \\n \\nStan Persky\\n00:03:34.14\\nIs that unbearably fast?\\n \\nStan Persky\\n00:03:38.89\\nReads \\\"Notebook, around August 25th, 1969\\\".\\n \\nStan Persky\\n00:07:16\\n\\\"Notebook, Sunday, August 29th or 30th, 1969\\\"  You can see the energy this takes, it's just...[laughter]. This is barely doing it. \\\"Jim and Franz...\\\" I'm going to try to read one of these a little more slowly, maybe.\\n \\nStan Persky\\n00:07:42\\nReads \\\"Notebook, Sunday, August 29th or 30th, 1969\\\".\\n \\nStan Persky\\n00:11:45\\nThis one's a longer pull if that's possible. \\\"The Marriage\\\". Angela, this is the gossip for you [laughter]. Coming in here, I was thinking, who's sitting in the room, and you'd like to hear your names [laughter]...Arnie...\\\"The Marriage\\\". \\n \\nStan Persky\\n00:12:23\\nReads \\\"The Marriage\\\". \\n\\nAudience\\n00:19:00\\nLaughter. \\n\\nStan Persky\\n00:19:04\\nTricky dick! [laughter].\\n \\nStan Persky\\n00:19:10\\nResumes reading \\\"The Marriage\\\".\\n \\nAudience\\n00:27:54\\nApplause [cut off]. \\n\\nUnknown\\n00:27:55\\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\\n \\nStan Persky\\n00:27:57\\nReads \\\"To Gladys\\\".\\n \\nAudience\\n00:34:54\\nLaughter.\\n \\nStan Persky\\n00:34:59\\n\\\"October 24th, 1969\\\". Did I write this for this, did I write this reading? \\n \\nStan Persky\\n00:35:08\\nReads \\\"October 24th, 1969\\\".\\n \\nStan Persky\\n00:36:46\\nReads \\\"Jamie\\\". \\n \\nStan Persky\\n00:39:49\\nAnd the last three...\\n \\nUnknown\\n00:39:52\\n[Cut or edit made in tape here. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\\n \\nStan Persky\\n00:39:53\\nReads \\\"Wednesday, November 5th, 1969, by Hunter's Creek\\\".\\n \\nStan Persky\\n00:42:04\\nReads \\\"Fred Study. Notebook, Friday, November 7th, 1969, Fred Study.\\\"\\n \\nStan Persky\\n00:44:17\\nAnd at last, to finish, as far as it's gone, or whatever it is, \\\"The Day\\\".\\n \\nStan Persky\\n00:44:26\\nReads \\\"The Day\\\".\\n \\nEND\\n00:46:38\\n[Cut off abruptly].\",\"notes\":\"Stan Persky reads from Wrestling the Angel (Talonbooks, 1976) as well as a few unpublished poems.\\n\\n00:00- Gladys Hindmarch introduces Stan Persky. [INDEX: Gertrude Stein, reading Stein, Stein quote.]\\n01:13- Stan Persky introduces reading and the poem “Notebook, around August 20th, 1969”. 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She first came to attention outside New York City, with the publication of the small, but now somewhat legendary anthology Four Young Lady Poets. Since then, she has published nine volumes of poems, including Coins and Coffins, Discrepancies and Apparitions, The George Washington Poems, Inside the Blood Factory, Greed, and The Magellanic Clouds which I believe is to come out this year. I understand that some critics have tended to assign some of her recent work to so-called confessional school, which in her case means very little except that she writes about her own pictures of herself. Contrary to what one associates with the term confessional, Miss Wakoski writes a poetry that is syntactically direct and undeceiving. Yet, it is at the same time openly adventurous in its vocabulary, full of excitement and risk. It is thus a poetry that may perplex you, not because you do not understand it however, but because you do. And it's certainly one that you will enjoy hearing. Miss Wakoski, Diane!\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:01:45\nI wanted to know what that tower was doing, but it's locating the clouds.\n \nIntroducer\n00:01:56\nYeah, I believe there is a meteorological interest...\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:02:00\nWill you fall asleep if we don't have more lights on? I fall asleep in very dark rooms, I'm very loath to let the audience fall asleep, at least just for lights. If you can't hear me, I think there are more seats up here. This first poem I'm going to read is a poem that I wrote to a young poet a few years ago, I guess he's not so young anymore, but he was young when I wrote it, and he came to visit me in New York City to show me his poems, which were very nice poems, but he had been studying with Robert Creeley [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q918620], whom I very much admire, but who sort of has the kiss of death for any sensitive young man who studies with him, because they all come away looking like Robert Creeley, sounding like Robert Creeley and writing exactly like Robert Creeley. And I'm not exactly known for my tact, so when he asked me about his poems, I said I thought they were very nice Robert Creeley imitations. And he walked away in a huff, and I realized what a message that is constantly being communicated to women in our culture that even though we are asked to be able to think and act intelligently, when it really comes down to the nitty gritty, we are expected to compliment men and not to tell them what we really think. So I wrote him an apology. I'm not really apologizing for what I said, I'm apologizing for being a graceful enough woman in that situation. And this poem, I think, says very much what I would like to say to all of you who wrote poetry who are young, or who do anything else. \"An Apology\".\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:04:20\nReads \"An Apology\" [from Inside The Blood Factory].\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:06:15\nI don't really believe that, as I say. But I do believe in the necessity of having to say it. This next poem I'd like to read is a poem in which, again, I ask a kind of rhetorical question that is a very meaningful one for all women in our culture. I think, by the way, that in spite of the fact that I constantly talk about what problems women do have in a contemporary society that at last has freed them from the burden of constant babysitting and washing and ironing and so forth, that the whole mix up of what roles are about makes the life of a woman very hard, but I think that really, it's probably a man's role, it's harder to play the woman and my experience has been most of the time when women are punished in our society or have real problems with being women it's because they are getting the feedback from how complicated and impossible the demands on men have been and the men are feeding it back to them and if maybe we could ever solve that real dilemma of what the complete man is allowed to be, then women wouldn't suffer. I don't really think that anything women can do will do any good until the man's world is a more possible one to live in. At any rate, this poem asks a question that I constantly ask, why is it when a woman who shows strength, strength is something that we should all be honoured for having and being able to live with in our life, why should a woman be punished for her strength? As strong women often are. It's called \"Slicing Oranges for Jeremiah\".\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:08:19\nReads \"Slicing Oranges for Jeremiah\" [from Inside The Blood Factory].\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:12:58\nI'm very interested in, well, actually, something that all poets are involved in, and that is trying to use the mythology of their culture to somehow be able to talk about their own personal realities and still be able to communicate with other people in terms of kind of common cultural experience. And I've been writing a series of poems that I call the \"George Washington [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q23] Poems\" to help me do this and every once in a while I will pick up on other things also and something that's always fascinated me, being from California [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q99], are the legends of the Wild West [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q190267] and the way people still sort of look at Americans as pioneers and cowboys and in a way how we like to flatter ourselves, all of us that we have a certain kind of ruggedness because of this pioneer tradition. But one of the confusions that has grown up out of that cultural image is again, something that concerns me very much, as women, we've all been brainwashed to fall in love with men who have this very rugged image who are able to do tough rugged things, and unfortunately, reality doesn't always live up to those images that are presented to us so we're falling madly in love with these men who turn out to often not like women, because that whole western life was geared for men, and not for women. So in this poem I'm lodging my protest officially. It's called \"Follow that Stagecoach\".\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:14:55\nReads \"Follow that Stagecoach\" [from Discrepancies and Apparitions].\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:19:57\nDo you think you need the mic in the back? What do you think? I'm going to move up? ...Is this an amplifying mic? ....Can you hear me now any better back there? I'm going to read a few \"George Washington\" poems. Are you getting clicky sound? Maybe if I turn it away, it'll amplify...This poem is called \"Patriotic Poem\" and I always dedicate it to J. Edgar Hoover [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q210435] when I read. This is in hopes that someday I'll be considered a great American Patriot.\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:21:53\nReads \"Patriotic Poem\" [from The George Washington Poems].\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:25:09\nThe next poem is called \"George Washington Writes Home about Harvesting his Hemp\". All plantations, I guess, in those days had large hemp crops on them because they had to make their own rope.\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:25:35\nReads \"George Washington Writes Home about Harvesting his Hemp\" [from The George Washington Poems].\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:27:07\nI understand you had a writer in this series named Gladys Hindmarch, so I'll read you a poem called \"George Washington and the Dream of Gladys Hindmarch\".\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:27:22\nReads \"George Washington and the Dream of Gladys Hindmarch\" [from The George Washington Poems].\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:31:15\nThis next poem is about an idiosyncrasy that I have, I can't stand men who wear rings on their little fingers. and I wrote this poem, oh, a few years ago when I went to the Guggenheim [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q201469] in New York City to hear a poet that I admire a lot, Gary Snyder [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q315963], I like that whole, very masculine image he presents, some guy in the woods chopping down trees, working in a lumber mill and things like that. So, it was really a very great shock to see him appear on stage with his lumber boots, his blue jeans, his work shirt, his tweed jacket with a leather patch and a ring on his little finger. So I went home and wrote this poem. It's called \"Ringless\".\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:32:17\nReads \"Ringless\" [from Inside The Blood Factory].\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:35:41\nAnother one of my heroes is Beethoven [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q255], this is Beethoven's two-hundred centennial by the way. I like Beethoven for a lot of reasons, but I suppose why I pick on him to talk about is that Beethoven stands for the ability to use anger and make it into something very beautiful and powerful. Again, we live in a culture that makes life very difficult for us and one of the things we're taught as children is that to express anger is a bad thing, not that it's a natural, healthy thing and that in fact until the anger is expressed, the love can't exist. So I'm going to read this poem which is called \"In Gratitude to Beethoven\".\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:36:49\nReads \"In Gratitude to Beethoven\" [from Inside The Blood Factory].\n\nUnknown\n00:41:58\n[Cut or edit in tape].\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:42:01\nResumes reading of “In Gratitude to Beethoven”.\n \nUnknown\n00:43:08\n[Cut or edit in tape].\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:43:10\n...poets in the world I assume. I wrote a poem about landing on the moon. The moon traditionally is poet's subject and I suppose I feel even more involved, since my name is Diane and I've always felt that either the moon belonged to me, or that I was the moon, so having it landed on gave me a lot of complicated feelings. And I wrote this poem called \"The Ten Dollar Cab Ride\", which is dedicated to Robert Duncan [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q964391], because he once told this story, some of you must know this, I don't think he wrote it in any of his poems, I once heard him tell the story but it could easily be in one of his poems. It was about a number of years ago when he was much, much younger and his life was much more difficult than it is right now and I guess one of his problems was money and money tends to get people very depressed at times, and he was depressed about everything else and he also didn't have any money so he decided he was going to kill himself, and he didn't really want to do it right that minute. But he wanted to do it, and all he had was ten dollars and so he decided he would take a cab ride and when the ten dollars was up, he'd get out and kill himself. But he made the fatal mistake, or I should say the life-giving mistake, of going for a cab ride in Golden Gate Park [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q635559] in San Francisco [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q62] which is very, very beautiful and by the end of his ten dollars, he felt so good that he had to get out and walk home. I always thought that was a hopeful story for any of us. Anyway, \"The Ten Dollar Cab Ride\" for Robert Duncan.\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:45:06\nReads \"The Ten Dollar Cab Ride\".\n \nUnknown\n00:47:22\n[Cut or edit in tape].\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:47:43\nResumes reading “The Ten Dollar Cab Ride”.\n \nDiane Wakoski\n00:50:15\nI'm going to read one last poem which is the title poem of a book, it's called the \"Magellanic Clouds\". And those of you who took Astronomy 1 and have your own telescopes and have ever been to the southern latitudes, you know that the Magellanic Clouds are probably another galaxy, and they appear as a  cloudy spot in the sky on a clear night in the southern hemisphere, and they were named by Magellan [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1496], for himself, of course, when he first saw them.\n \nAnnotation\n00:51:00\nReads \"The Magellanic Clouds\" [published later in The Magellanic Clouds].\n \nEND\n00:56:00\n"],"Note":["[{\"note\":\"Year-Specific Information:\\n\\nIn the fall of 1969, Diane Wakoski was working as a visiting writer in Deia Majorca sponsored by Dowling College of Long Island. 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She first came to attention outside New York City, with the publication of the small, but now somewhat legendary anthology Four Young Lady Poets. Since then, she has published nine volumes of poems, including Coins and Coffins, Discrepancies and Apparitions, The George Washington Poems, Inside the Blood Factory, Greed, and The Magellanic Clouds which I believe is to come out this year. I understand that some critics have tended to assign some of her recent work to so-called confessional school, which in her case means very little except that she writes about her own pictures of herself. Contrary to what one associates with the term confessional, Miss Wakoski writes a poetry that is syntactically direct and undeceiving. Yet, it is at the same time openly adventurous in its vocabulary, full of excitement and risk. It is thus a poetry that may perplex you, not because you do not understand it however, but because you do. And it's certainly one that you will enjoy hearing. Miss Wakoski, Diane!\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:01:45\\nI wanted to know what that tower was doing, but it's locating the clouds.\\n \\nIntroducer\\n00:01:56\\nYeah, I believe there is a meteorological interest...\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:02:00\\nWill you fall asleep if we don't have more lights on? I fall asleep in very dark rooms, I'm very loath to let the audience fall asleep, at least just for lights. If you can't hear me, I think there are more seats up here. This first poem I'm going to read is a poem that I wrote to a young poet a few years ago, I guess he's not so young anymore, but he was young when I wrote it, and he came to visit me in New York City to show me his poems, which were very nice poems, but he had been studying with Robert Creeley [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q918620], whom I very much admire, but who sort of has the kiss of death for any sensitive young man who studies with him, because they all come away looking like Robert Creeley, sounding like Robert Creeley and writing exactly like Robert Creeley. And I'm not exactly known for my tact, so when he asked me about his poems, I said I thought they were very nice Robert Creeley imitations. And he walked away in a huff, and I realized what a message that is constantly being communicated to women in our culture that even though we are asked to be able to think and act intelligently, when it really comes down to the nitty gritty, we are expected to compliment men and not to tell them what we really think. So I wrote him an apology. I'm not really apologizing for what I said, I'm apologizing for being a graceful enough woman in that situation. And this poem, I think, says very much what I would like to say to all of you who wrote poetry who are young, or who do anything else. \\\"An Apology\\\".\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:04:20\\nReads \\\"An Apology\\\" [from Inside The Blood Factory].\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:06:15\\nI don't really believe that, as I say. But I do believe in the necessity of having to say it. This next poem I'd like to read is a poem in which, again, I ask a kind of rhetorical question that is a very meaningful one for all women in our culture. I think, by the way, that in spite of the fact that I constantly talk about what problems women do have in a contemporary society that at last has freed them from the burden of constant babysitting and washing and ironing and so forth, that the whole mix up of what roles are about makes the life of a woman very hard, but I think that really, it's probably a man's role, it's harder to play the woman and my experience has been most of the time when women are punished in our society or have real problems with being women it's because they are getting the feedback from how complicated and impossible the demands on men have been and the men are feeding it back to them and if maybe we could ever solve that real dilemma of what the complete man is allowed to be, then women wouldn't suffer. I don't really think that anything women can do will do any good until the man's world is a more possible one to live in. At any rate, this poem asks a question that I constantly ask, why is it when a woman who shows strength, strength is something that we should all be honoured for having and being able to live with in our life, why should a woman be punished for her strength? As strong women often are. It's called \\\"Slicing Oranges for Jeremiah\\\".\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:08:19\\nReads \\\"Slicing Oranges for Jeremiah\\\" [from Inside The Blood Factory].\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:12:58\\nI'm very interested in, well, actually, something that all poets are involved in, and that is trying to use the mythology of their culture to somehow be able to talk about their own personal realities and still be able to communicate with other people in terms of kind of common cultural experience. And I've been writing a series of poems that I call the \\\"George Washington [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q23] Poems\\\" to help me do this and every once in a while I will pick up on other things also and something that's always fascinated me, being from California [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q99], are the legends of the Wild West [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q190267] and the way people still sort of look at Americans as pioneers and cowboys and in a way how we like to flatter ourselves, all of us that we have a certain kind of ruggedness because of this pioneer tradition. But one of the confusions that has grown up out of that cultural image is again, something that concerns me very much, as women, we've all been brainwashed to fall in love with men who have this very rugged image who are able to do tough rugged things, and unfortunately, reality doesn't always live up to those images that are presented to us so we're falling madly in love with these men who turn out to often not like women, because that whole western life was geared for men, and not for women. So in this poem I'm lodging my protest officially. It's called \\\"Follow that Stagecoach\\\".\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:14:55\\nReads \\\"Follow that Stagecoach\\\" [from Discrepancies and Apparitions].\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:19:57\\nDo you think you need the mic in the back? What do you think? I'm going to move up? ...Is this an amplifying mic? ....Can you hear me now any better back there? I'm going to read a few \\\"George Washington\\\" poems. Are you getting clicky sound? Maybe if I turn it away, it'll amplify...This poem is called \\\"Patriotic Poem\\\" and I always dedicate it to J. Edgar Hoover [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q210435] when I read. This is in hopes that someday I'll be considered a great American Patriot.\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:21:53\\nReads \\\"Patriotic Poem\\\" [from The George Washington Poems].\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:25:09\\nThe next poem is called \\\"George Washington Writes Home about Harvesting his Hemp\\\". All plantations, I guess, in those days had large hemp crops on them because they had to make their own rope.\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:25:35\\nReads \\\"George Washington Writes Home about Harvesting his Hemp\\\" [from The George Washington Poems].\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:27:07\\nI understand you had a writer in this series named Gladys Hindmarch, so I'll read you a poem called \\\"George Washington and the Dream of Gladys Hindmarch\\\".\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:27:22\\nReads \\\"George Washington and the Dream of Gladys Hindmarch\\\" [from The George Washington Poems].\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:31:15\\nThis next poem is about an idiosyncrasy that I have, I can't stand men who wear rings on their little fingers. and I wrote this poem, oh, a few years ago when I went to the Guggenheim [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q201469] in New York City to hear a poet that I admire a lot, Gary Snyder [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q315963], I like that whole, very masculine image he presents, some guy in the woods chopping down trees, working in a lumber mill and things like that. So, it was really a very great shock to see him appear on stage with his lumber boots, his blue jeans, his work shirt, his tweed jacket with a leather patch and a ring on his little finger. So I went home and wrote this poem. It's called \\\"Ringless\\\".\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:32:17\\nReads \\\"Ringless\\\" [from Inside The Blood Factory].\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:35:41\\nAnother one of my heroes is Beethoven [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q255], this is Beethoven's two-hundred centennial by the way. I like Beethoven for a lot of reasons, but I suppose why I pick on him to talk about is that Beethoven stands for the ability to use anger and make it into something very beautiful and powerful. Again, we live in a culture that makes life very difficult for us and one of the things we're taught as children is that to express anger is a bad thing, not that it's a natural, healthy thing and that in fact until the anger is expressed, the love can't exist. So I'm going to read this poem which is called \\\"In Gratitude to Beethoven\\\".\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:36:49\\nReads \\\"In Gratitude to Beethoven\\\" [from Inside The Blood Factory].\\n\\nUnknown\\n00:41:58\\n[Cut or edit in tape].\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:42:01\\nResumes reading of “In Gratitude to Beethoven”.\\n \\nUnknown\\n00:43:08\\n[Cut or edit in tape].\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:43:10\\n...poets in the world I assume. I wrote a poem about landing on the moon. The moon traditionally is poet's subject and I suppose I feel even more involved, since my name is Diane and I've always felt that either the moon belonged to me, or that I was the moon, so having it landed on gave me a lot of complicated feelings. And I wrote this poem called \\\"The Ten Dollar Cab Ride\\\", which is dedicated to Robert Duncan [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q964391], because he once told this story, some of you must know this, I don't think he wrote it in any of his poems, I once heard him tell the story but it could easily be in one of his poems. It was about a number of years ago when he was much, much younger and his life was much more difficult than it is right now and I guess one of his problems was money and money tends to get people very depressed at times, and he was depressed about everything else and he also didn't have any money so he decided he was going to kill himself, and he didn't really want to do it right that minute. But he wanted to do it, and all he had was ten dollars and so he decided he would take a cab ride and when the ten dollars was up, he'd get out and kill himself. But he made the fatal mistake, or I should say the life-giving mistake, of going for a cab ride in Golden Gate Park [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q635559] in San Francisco [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q62] which is very, very beautiful and by the end of his ten dollars, he felt so good that he had to get out and walk home. I always thought that was a hopeful story for any of us. Anyway, \\\"The Ten Dollar Cab Ride\\\" for Robert Duncan.\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:45:06\\nReads \\\"The Ten Dollar Cab Ride\\\".\\n \\nUnknown\\n00:47:22\\n[Cut or edit in tape].\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:47:43\\nResumes reading “The Ten Dollar Cab Ride”.\\n \\nDiane Wakoski\\n00:50:15\\nI'm going to read one last poem which is the title poem of a book, it's called the \\\"Magellanic Clouds\\\". And those of you who took Astronomy 1 and have your own telescopes and have ever been to the southern latitudes, you know that the Magellanic Clouds are probably another galaxy, and they appear as a  cloudy spot in the sky on a clear night in the southern hemisphere, and they were named by Magellan [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1496], for himself, of course, when he first saw them.\\n \\nAnnotation\\n00:51:00\\nReads \\\"The Magellanic Clouds\\\" [published later in The Magellanic Clouds].\\n \\nEND\\n00:56:00\\n\",\"notes\":\"Diane Wakoski reads the title poem from The Magellanic Clouds (Black Sparrow Press, 1970) and from Discrepancies and Apparitions (Doubleday, 1966), The George Washington Poems (Riverrun Press, 1967), and Inside The Blood Factory (Doubleday, 1968).\\n\\n00:00- Unknown male introduces Diane Wakoski [INDEX: Californian, New York Poetry scene in 1961, Four Young Lady Poets Anthology, Coins and Coffins, Discrepancies and Apparitions, The George Washington Poem, Inside the Blood Factory, Greed, The \\tMagellanic Clouds by Diane Wakoski, Confessional school of poetry]\\n01:45- Diane Wakoski introduces “An Apology” [INDEX: advice to a young poet, Robert Creeley, gender roles]\\n04:20- Reads “An Apology”\\n06:15- Introduces “Slicing Oranges” [INDEX: Gender roles, strong women]\\n08:19- Reads “Slicing Oranges”\\n12:58- Introduces “Follow that Stagecoach” [INDEX: Mythology of one’s culture, series of poems called “The George Washington Poems”, legends of the Wild West]\\n14:55- Reads “Follow that Stagecoach”\\n19:57- Introduces “Patriotic Poem” [INDEX: J. Edgar Hoover]\\n21:53- Reads “Patriotic Poem”\\n25:09- Introduces “George Washington Writes Home About Harvesting his Hemp”\\n25:25- Reads “George Washington Writes Home About Harvesting his Hemp”\\n27:07- Introduces “George Washington and the Dream of Gladys Hindmarch”\\n27:22- Reads “George Washington and the Dream of Gladys Hindmarch”\\n31:15- Introduces “Ringless” [INDEX: reading by Gary Snyder at the Guggenheim in New York City]\\n32:17- Reads “Ringless”\\n35:41- Introduces “Ingratitude to Beethoven” [INDEX: Beethoven, 200 Centennial]\\n36:49- Reads “Ingratitude to Beethoven”\\n43:10- Introduces “The Ten Dollar Cab Ride” [INDEX: moon as poet’s subject, Robert         Duncan, suicide, Golden Gate Park in San Francisco]\\n45:06- Reads “The Ten Dollar Cab Ride”\\n50:15- Introduces “Magellanic Clouds” [INDEX: Astronomy, Magellan]\\n51:00- Reads “Magellanic Clouds”\\n56:00.27- END OF RECORDING\",\"title\":\"\",\"credit\":\"\",\"caption\":\"\",\"content_type\":\"Sound Recording\",\"featured\":\"Yes\",\"public_access_url\":\"https://montreal.spokenweb.ca/sgw-poetry-readings/diane-wakoski-at-sgwu-1970/\"}]"],"score":1.8470539},{"id":"1304","cataloger_name":["Ali,Barillaro"],"partnerInstitution":["Concordia University"],"collection_source_collection":["SGWU Reading Series-Concordia University Department of English fonds"],"source_collection_label":["SGWU Reading Series-Concordia University Department of English fonds"],"collection_contributing_unit":["Records Management and Archives"],"source_collection_uri":[""],"collection_image_url":[""],"collection_source_collection_description":["The fonds consists of some administrative records of the SGWU Department of English and the Concordia Department of English between 1971 and 2000. It also consists of some SGWU Department of English records related to student academic activities in the 1940s and to public readings and lectures, and a few interviews, produced between 1966 and 1972. The fonds mainly includes minutes of departmental meetings and some course timetables. It also includes some student papers in bound volumes and 63 sound recordings (80 audio reels) mainly composed of poetry readings (see the Concordia SpokenWeb project which uses this material) but also a few lectures given at SGWU. There are also loose typed sheets describing some of the SGWU poetry readings."],"collection_source_collection_id":["I086"],"persistent_url":["http://archives.concordia.ca/I086"],"item_title":["Ron Loewinsohn and Robert Hogg at Sir George Williams University, The Poetry Series, 20 February 1970"],"item_title_source":["Cataloguer"],"item_title_note":["\"RON LOEWINSOHN I086-11-033\" written on stickers on the spine of the tape box and on the reel. \"RT 526\" written on the back and on sticker on the front of the tape box.\n\n\"ROBERT HOGG I086-11-023\" written on stickers on the spine of the tape box and on the reel. \"RT 534\" written on the back and on sticker on the front of the tape box."],"item_language":["English"],"item_production_context":["Documentary recording"],"item_series_title":["The Poetry Series"],"item_subseries_title":["Poetry 4"],"item_identifiers":["[I086-11-033, I086-11-023]"],"creator_names":["Loewinsohn, Ron","Hogg, Robert"],"creator_names_search":["Loewinsohn, Ron","Hogg, Robert"],"creators":["[{\"url\":\"http://viaf.org/viaf/85836314\",\"name\":\"Loewinsohn, Ron\",\"dates\":\"1937-2014\",\"notes\":\"Ron Loewinsohn was born in Iloilo, Philippines on December 15, 1937. His family moved to California in 1945, and he graduated from Abraham Lincoln High School in 1955 in San Francisco. Loewinsohn spent two years traveling the United States before marrying in 1957 and taking up a position as a lithographer that he held for the next twelve years. He completed an M.A. in 1967 at the University of California, Berkeley, and then an M.A. (1969) and Ph.D. (1971) from Harvard University, completing his doctoral dissertation on William Carlos Williams. He edited Sum magazine in 1974 with Canadian poet Fred Wah. Ron Loewinsohn became close friends with poets Robert Duncan, Jack Spicer, Philip Whalen, Gary Snyder, Robert Creeley, Denise Levertov and Charles Olson. His first collection of poems, Watermelons (Totem Press) was published in 1959 with an introduction by Allen Ginsberg, and a prefatory letter by Williams himself. The New American Poetry, 1945-1960 (Grove Press, 1960) anthologized Loewinsohn’s poetry and propelled him into popularity. His next collections, The World of the Lie (Change Press, 1963) which won a Poets Foundation Award, Against the Silences to Come (Four Seasons Foundation, 1965) and L’Autre (Black Sparrow Press, 1967) placed him securely in the Beat poetry movement. Loewinsohn published two collections of poetry in 1967, Lying Together, Turning the Head and Shifting the Weight, The Produce District and Other Places, Moving: A Spring Poem (Black Sparrow Press) and Three Backyard Dramas with Mamas (Unicorn Press), followed by The Sea, Around Us, and The Step in 1968 (both Black Sparrow Press). He collaborated with Diane Wakoski and Robert Kelly in 1968, publishing These Worlds Have Always Moved in Harmony (Black Sparrow Press). He won an Irving Stone Award from the Academy of American Poets in 1966, the University of California Scholar Award in 1967, a Woodrow Wilson Foundation graduate fellowship from 1967-8, a Harvard University fellowship from 1967-70, a National Education Association Fellowship in 1979 and 1986, and a Guggenheim Fellowship from 1984-5. Ron Loewinsohn began a career in teaching that spanned for more than thirty years at the University of California, Berkeley in 1970. His later works include Meat Air 1957-69 (Harcourt, Brace & World, 1970), followed by The Leaves (Black Sparrow Press, 1973) and Eight Fairy Tales (Black Sparrow Press, 1975) and his last volume of poetry, Goat Dances: Poems and Prose (Black Sparrow Press, 1976). Loewinsohn’s work has beeny anthologized in dozens of publications, including The Post Moderns: A New American Poetry Revised (1982), and published in periodicals including Poetry, Tri-Quarterly, Chicago Review and Occident. Loewinsohn authored two novels, Magnetic Fields (Knopf, 1983), and Where All the Ladders Start (Atlantic Monthly Press, 1987). Ron Loewinsohn retired from the University of California, Berkeley as professor emeritus in 2005. Loewinsohn died in 2014 at the age of 76.\",\"nation\":[],\"role\":[\"Author\",\"Performer\"]},{\"url\":\"http://viaf.org/viaf/91752751\",\"name\":\"Hogg, Robert\",\"dates\":\"1942-\",\"notes\":\"Robert Hogg was born in Edmonton, Alberta in 1942. His father was an accountant and his mother founded the Canadian Health League in 1948, and opened the first health food store in the Fraser Valley. After hearing Robert Duncan read from The Opening of the Field, in Vancouver with Frank Davey, he completed a BA at the University of British Columbia. There, he met the members of the newly formed Tish group, and became an integral part of the movement. George Bowering and Hogg published Robert Duncan: An Interview by George Bowering and Robert Hogg (Coach House Press, 1971), which was conducted in 1969. Hogg then went on to complete a Ph.D. from SUNY Buffalo in American Literature. Hogg and his family moved to Ottawa and bought a farm in Mountain Township and began organic farming. In 1968 Hogg began teaching Modern Poetry at Carleton University in Ottawa until he retired in 2005. Hogg’s published works include The connexions (Oyez Press, 1966), Standing back (Coach House Press, 1971), Of light (Coach House Press, 1978), Heat lightning (Black Moss Press, 1986), There is no falling (ECW Press, 1993) and most recently Hogg edited An English Canadian poetics (Talon Books, 2009) which he won a Marston Lafrance Research Fellowship award to write.\",\"nation\":[],\"role\":[\"Author\",\"Performer\"]}]"],"contributors":["[]"],"Performance_Date":[1970],"material_description":["[{\"side\":\"\",\"image\":\"\",\"other\":\"\",\"extent\":\"1/4 inch\",\"AV_types\":\"Audio\",\"tape_brand\":\"\",\"generations\":\"\",\"Conservation\":\"\",\"equalization\":\"\",\"playback_mode\":\"Mono\",\"playing_speed\":\"3 3/4 ips\",\"sound_quality\":\"Good\",\"recording_type\":\"Analogue\",\"storage_capacity\":\"\",\"physical_condition\":\"\",\"track_configuration\":\"\",\"material_designation\":\"Reel to Reel\",\"physical_composition\":\"Magnetic Tape\",\"accompanying_material\":\"\",\"other_physical_description\":\"\"},{\"side\":\"\",\"image\":\"\",\"other\":\"\",\"extent\":\"1/4 inch\",\"AV_types\":\"Audio\",\"tape_brand\":\"\",\"generations\":\"\",\"Conservation\":\"\",\"equalization\":\"\",\"playback_mode\":\"Mono\",\"playing_speed\":\"3 3/4 ips\",\"sound_quality\":\"Good\",\"recording_type\":\"Analogue\",\"storage_capacity\":\"\",\"physical_condition\":\"\",\"track_configuration\":\"\",\"material_designation\":\"Reel to Reel\",\"physical_composition\":\"Magnetic Tape\",\"accompanying_material\":\"\",\"other_physical_description\":\"\"}]"],"material_designations":["Reel to Reel","Reel to Reel"],"physical_compositions":["Magnetic Tape","Magnetic Tape"],"recording_type":["Analogue","Analogue"],"AV_type":["Audio","Audio"],"playback_mode":["Mono","Mono"],"Dates":["[{\"date\":\"1970 2 20\",\"type\":\"Performance Date\",\"notes\":\"Date reference in \\\"Howard Fink List\\\"\",\"source\":\"Supplemental Material\"}]"],"Location":["[{\"url\":\"https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/22080570\",\"venue\":\"Hall Building Mixed Lounge (H-651)\",\"notes\":\"Location referenced by previous researcher\",\"address\":\"1455, Boul de Maisonneuve Ouest, Montreal, Quebec, Canada\",\"latitude\":\"45.4972758\",\"longitude\":\"-73.57893043\"}]"],"Address":["1455, Boul de Maisonneuve Ouest, Montreal, Quebec, Canada"],"Venue":["Hall Building Mixed Lounge (H-651)"],"City":["Montreal, Quebec"],"content_notes":["Ron Loewinsohn reads from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969 (Harcourt, Brace & World, 1970). Robert Hogg reads from The Connexions (Oyez Press, 1966),  as well as poems later published in Standing Back (Coach House Press, 1972), and others from unknown sources."],"contents":["ron_loewinsohn-i086-11-033.mp3 [File 1 of 2]\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:00:00\nI do want to try to read as much as I can from the more recent material, the book is called Meat Air, and the last section which is the collection of new stuff is called “Book of Ayres”. Let me start out with, let me start out with one called \"His Music's Like His 20 Children\".\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:00:30\nReads \"His Music's Like His 20 Children\" from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969.\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:01:54\nReads [\"It Is to Be Bathed in Light\" from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:04:25\nThis is called \"Song\".\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:04:30\nReads \"Song\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969, section “L’autre 1967”].\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:05:10\nAnd this one called, \"The Rain, The Rain\".\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:05:17\nReads \"The Rain, The Rain\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:06:20\nLet me, let me do one called \"Fuck You With Your Home Run Title\". That title had to be changed, it was originally \"Fuck You Roger Maris [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q741023]\", but Harcourt Brace [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5654997] didn't want to be sued. It's not as if I can't afford it, it's just that it wouldn't do anybody any good. So this is \"Fuck You With Your Home Run Title\".\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:07:04\nReads \"Fuck You With Your Home Run Title\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:07:41\nThe quote \"thoughts of the party were in my head\" is from the World Champion Weight Lifter, who is a Communist Chinese, and after he had pressed some 5,000 lbs or something they said, you know \"You're fantastic, how did you do it?\". And he said \"Thoughts of the party were in my head\". This is called \"Vision of Childhood''.\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:08:15\nReads \"Vision of Childhood\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:10:33\nThis is called \"Lots of Lakes\".\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:10:37\nReads \"Lots of Lakes\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:12:03\nThis is called \"The Sea, Around Us\".\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:12:17\nReads \"The Sea, Around Us\" [from The Sea, Around Us].\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:15:59\nI want to read some, most of the poems from this section called \"Book of Ayres\", and I want to explain just a little bit about it if I can, I guess the most important thing to say is that they declared themselves as a book of poems, in the middle of a final exam, I was taking an exam and one of the things that we had to deal with was a poem by Emily Dickinson [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4441], which I will read to you, it's a marvelous poem, I'd never seen it before. And it's so clearly tied all of the poems I'd been working on for the past year or so together, into a bundle, into a package. Let me read to you the, this little statement which I'd written for the publication of the book, and I, simply to insist that they are before anything else, religious poems, and I, as prepossessing as I am about them now, because I think that I may have occasion later on in the reading to call that, or you may have occasion to call that to mind. That they take, as their focus, the making, the finding of the flesh in the word, that is that the word is flesh and it has to be found as such. But let me just read this statement and then I'll read you the Emily Dickinson poem, we'll go right into the “Book of Ayres”. I hope that they're, also, that they're fun, and then you say 'religion', people say, 'uh-oh', this is going to be very grim and very heavy, and in the old sense of heavy. But I hope we can have fun with them, but simply, let me do this. All the poems in the “Book of Ayres” section Meat Air, were written with the intention, though not entirely conscious ‘til rather late in the series, of making the word flesh. That is, when the poet speaks, his words are physically only air, yet they can afford us the most sensorially tangible of experiences. Further, the poem, though merely air, is what sustains us, what the soul feeds on. The poet speaks to keep the soul of man alive, that's Yeats [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q40213] in  “John Kinsella's Lament for Mrs. Mary Moore”, it's interesting that as I was grabbing for something to, for support, picked that line, because the line continues, or rather the whole passage goes \"And oh, but she had stories, though not for the priest's ear, to keep the soul of man alive, to banish age and care, and being old, she put a skin on everything she said.\" Or as Williams [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q178106] puts it, \"It is difficult, to get the news from poems, yet we die, every day, for lack of what is found there.\" Yet if the word seeks to take on the actuality of flesh, of substance, substance itself, as the poet apprehends it, in the merest of tales of his life, from day to day, seeks to take on the resonating actuality of speech, to realize itself in the actuality of the word. Love itself is both a word and a continuing act or process, both an idea and a tension in the chest, viscera and genitals, a pressure toward articulation so complex that it often stifles speech. About halfway through “The Book of Ayres”, I realized that many of the poems I'd written over the past twelve years or so, had been attempting with various degrees of success to effect these transubstantiations and so, this collection. \"The Dickinson Poem\", which if you want to take a look at it is in Thomas Johnson's editions, it's number “1651”.\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:20:02 \nReads \"Poem 1651\" by Emily Dickinson.\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:20:49\nAnd one last note before starting in the book has an epigraph from Jim St. Jim. \"I need to take a new tack, and sit on it.\" The first poem's called \"’These Worlds Have Always Moved in Harmony’\".\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:21:11\nReads \"’These Worlds Have Always Moved in Harmony’\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\n \nUnknown\n00:21:20\nAmbient Sound [bell].\n\nRon Loewinsohn\n00:21:22\nWhat the hell is that? I have this terrible recollection of this story I heard about a college in the Midwest in the United States [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30] where a visiting prof came out to give a lecture on Plato [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q859] or something and had this bell go off every fifteen minutes and after, it really unnerved him, and after the end of the lecture, he asked one of the people, like, \"What is that bell going off?\" and the guy, the administrator said \"Oh, that's to keep the students awake.\" I--If that's the case, God bless you, I hope we can do better than that.\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:22:08\nReads \"These Worlds Have Always Moved in Harmony\".\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:23:34\nAnd this is called \"The Sipapu\". Don't worry about the title, it clears up.\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:23:52\nReads \"The Sipapu\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:27:51\nThis is called \"Settling\".\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:27:58\nReads \"Settling\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:29:48\nThis is called, this next poem is called \"Paean\" p-a-e-a-n, paean, and is a collaboration in a sense that it's the kind of poem in which a number of people get together and contribute lines, you give me three lines, and I'll give you two lines and eventually the poem gets written, and simply to give credit where credit where credit is due, to list the people who did contribute or help out in the writing of this poem, John Dryden [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q213355], William Carlos Williams, and the Associated Press [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q40469].\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:30:31\nReads \"Paean\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:32:12\nThe story goes that St. Cecilia [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q80513] invented the organ, and when she was playing an angel passed and mistook earth for heaven because of this fantastic music. \"Went to her organ vocal breath was given\" says John Dryden. These are a couple of songs.\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:32:38\nReads “Song” [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969; third poem entitled “Song” published in “Book of Ayres” section].\n\nRon Loewinsohn\n00:32:48\nThis one also called \"Song\".\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:32:54\nReads “Song\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969; fourth poem entitled “Song” published in “Book of Ayres” section].\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:33:12\nAnd this one also called \"Song\".\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:33:18\nReads “Song\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969; fifth poem entitled “Song” published in “Book of Ayres” section].\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:33:57\nAnd this one called \"Air\".\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:34:01\nReads \"Air\"  [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:34:59\nAnd this one called \"Goat Dance\".\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:35:07\nReads \"Goat Dance\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969; first poem entitled “Goat Dance” published in “Book of Ayres” section].\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:36:30\nThis one called \"Two Airs\".\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:36:36\nReads \"Two Airs\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:37:31\nAnd another one called \"Goat Dance\".\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:37:35\nReads \"Goat Dance\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969; third poem entitled “Goat Song” published in “Book of Ayres” section].\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:38:48\nAnd this, title, may perhaps need a little bit of explanation. \"The Romaunt of the Rose\", a 13th century French dream vision poem, dream allegory, written actually in two halves by Jean de Meun [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q544925] and Guillaume de Lorris [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q544959] I'm not sure but Chaucer [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5683] translated the first part of it, and the title comes from his title, \"The Romaunt of the Rose\". The last line of the poem, “smoot right to the herte rote” is from Chaucer's translation and it's \"smitten right to the heart's root\". And the whole, the title of the poem is \"The Romaunt of the Rose Fuck\".\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:39:39\nReads \"The Romaunt of the Rose Fuck\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:40:22\nI'll just do two more, the first one called \"K. 282\". Koechel is--don't please, be insulted that I explain that title, I read the poem in New York [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q60] and a graduate student at Columbia [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q49088] asked me if it meant \"Circa 282\", like circa 282, like approximately 282, and it is of course the catalogue number for the Mozart [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q254] piano sonata, and it's a piano sonata, I forget which, what key it's in.\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:41:04\nReads \"K. 282\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:42:02\nAnd the last poem is the title poem of the book, \"Meat Air\".\n \nRon Loewinsohn\n00:42:08\nReads \"Meat Air\" from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969.\n \nEND\n00:43:00\n\n\nrobert_hogg_i086-11-023.mp3 [File 2 of 2]\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:00:00\nI'd like to open the reading with a poem that's really part of a verse-play that I wrote in 1963 or 64, a long time ago, a play that never really made it as a play, but fragments of which I've salvaged because I like, I like what they do. And so this is sort of called \"Fragments of an Imaginary Noh Play\", and this is the dream that one of the figures has. \n \nRobert Hogg\n00:00:26\nReads \"Fragments of an Imaginary Noh Play - Walkie's Dream\".\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:02:39\nI'd like to read a few selections from my book of poems The Connexions, which was printed in 1965. I'd like to begin with a poem entitled \"The Command\". I should just briefly mention that these poems were all written in a very short period of time between November and January, mostly, and a few poems written later on throughout that spring of 1965. That is, November 1964 through the early part of 1965. Most of them were written in New York and involved an experience I had there where I was very ill, and part of the time delirious. This poem was actually written a little later than some of the poems that follow. They're not spaced out chronologically in the book. \"The Command\".\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:03:34\nReads \"The Command\" from The Connexions.\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:06:20\nThis poem, written, actually, previous to the other, is entitled \"Eclipse\", and it was written without my own, without my knowledge, actually, at the time, that there was an eclipse taking place. It was on the eighteenth of December, 1964, written in New York City. This was a lunar eclipse. Isn't there a lunar eclipse about to...is that tonight? [Audience laughter]. It's a full moon tonight. Something's happening.\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:07:06\nReads \"Eclipse\" from The Connexions.\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:09:12\nThe she of that last stanza enters into this poem, which was originally entitled \"The Changing of Skin\". There's a good, considerable amount of snake imagery in these poems, all of which was the result of having hepatitis and the turning of colours. I had hepatitis rather badly, and relapsed twice with it, and each time I relapsed, of course, I turned bright yellow again. And it was quite an unusual experience, especially the first time, in which I was in the hospital, and the nurses, especially the young nurses, would come round and look at you with the most peculiar eyes, you know, as if you were really something from another world, having changed colour like that. \n \nRobert Hogg\n00:10:02\nReads unnamed poem [originally entitled “The Changing of Skin”].\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:14:08\nAnother poem connected with this quite closely, another dream poem, entitled \"The Cave\".\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:14:17\nReads \"The Cave\".\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:15:36\nAfter this there's a descent, a further descent down, as has been instructed in an earlier poem, called \"The Command,\" and then a coming-out again. And then a poem that remembers, really, it's quite different, I'm not sure how much this poem really belonged in The Connexions. Most of the poems definitely did belong in the book, I think, though some of them don't bear reading, I don't think, now. This poem bears reading, I think, but doesn't really belong in the book. How's that?\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:16:09\nReads unnamed poem from The Connexions.\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:16:55\nAnd another poem, which was originally titled, \"Poem to Out of This World and Soul Lies\", was really written with John Sinclair [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q706977] in mind, whom I hope all of you keep in mind at times, specially now that he's in prison, in Michigan [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1166]. It was written to...not written really for him, but written with him in mind, listening to the record \"Out of This World and Soul Lies\" by John Coltrane [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7346].\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:17:23\nReads [\"Out of This World\" , originally entitled “Poem to Out of This World and Soul Lies”].\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:19:09\nAnd the last poem in the collection is entitled, simply, \"Song\".\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:19:16\nReads \"Song\" from The Connexions.\n\nUnknown \n00:19:33\nAmbient Sound [bell].\n\nRobert Hogg\n00:19:34\nHave to change my trunks...Now I'd like to read a few poems that were written not too far removed from the time of The Connexions, some of them, and then moving right on up to the present. This poem titled simply, \"Once\" and the \"once\" is really part of the poem.\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:20:01\nReads \"Once\" [published later in Standing Back]. \n \nRobert Hogg\n00:20:24\nAnd another little poem called \"Tropos\", which means, \"to turn\" in Greek, or \"turning\" in Greek.\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:20:34\nReads \"Tropos\".\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:20:50\nAnother short poem, written some time later, but in the same vein. \"A Fragment of Love\".\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:20:57\nReads \"A Fragment of Love\".\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:21:12\nThis poem was written about four or five years ago also, and was written after having given a tarot reading for a friend. And I take it that most of you will have some familiarity with the tarot cards, and anyway, the poem attempts in several places to explain, in other places just simply to give you the reading of the tarot as it was done out. And so I've just simply in parts just listed the cards that fell. It's simply called \"A Reading\".\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:21:48\nReads \"A Reading\".\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:24:03\nAnd now, a longer poem, a poem that really, in a sense, deals with the subject of poetry, and the subject of love, together. The poem is entitled \"Aries and Pisces Dream\". And really, I supposed, ought to be dedicated to Charles Olson [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q922978].\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:24:30\nReads \"Aries and Pisces Dream\" [published later in Standing Back].\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:29:03\nA short, and rather lyrical poem, which was written in response to a letter, not in very good response to a letter, actually...in which the other person asked me if I wouldn't tell them about Psyche [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q843382], what I've defined psyche, which I found was an absolutely impossible thing to do, and something that I hope I can--you could--you know, once you spend one's whole life, I suppose, trying to do it, God help you if you actually get it done, you know. There'd be nothing left to do. This poem is called \"Of Psyche\".\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:29:39\nReads \"Of Psyche\" [published later in Standing Back]. \n \nRobert Hogg\n00:30:26\nA recent poem, entitled \"To the Moon\". The moon gets into a lot of my poems, one way or another. This one woke us up the other night, rather nastily. \n \nRobert Hogg\n00:30:37\nReads \"To the Moon\".\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:31:12\nThis is an untitled poem, a happy poem, I hope, written in September, on the seventh of September, and it struck me, as it was the seventh of September, that in fact, in the Latin, that September is the seventh month, and was apparently the seventh month of the Roman calendar year. And so I was suddenly taken by that, because, you know, if you write dates very often, you probably use the typical numerical method of you know, putting, the day, and the month, and the year, in terms of numbers. And you usually think of September as the ninth month, which in fact it is, in our calendar, but the word is obviously, suggests, as October suggests the eighth month, September is the seventh. And so I was happy. It seemed like something new was happening. It was nice, because you know, in September, in northern, any part of Ottawa [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1930], Ottawa-area, or Ontario [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1904], or Quebec [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q176], you know what's coming, eh? You know, it's still here. So you got to be happy while you can. And it was also, I should add, that even in old times, you know, the calendar year was divided into twelve months, and so the seventh month would, in a sense, be the beginning of a new cycle. It would be six months, and that would end the first half, and there would be six more months, and September would be the first of it again. And that also excited me. It felt like Spring. [Laughter]. But I'm crazy.\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:32:42\nReads untitled poem [published later in Standing Back]. \n \nRobert Hogg\n00:33:05\nAnd now a sad poem, for someone who has, who had cancer, and is apparently alright, which is kind of nice. I think I was pessimistic, I'm always terribly pessimistic about something like that, I don't find it easy to be optimistic in such situations, and optimism, the optimism that I now have again for this person is only as qualified, I dare say. The poem is entitled \"A Lifetime\", and the more I thought about that word--I didn't get the title easily, I had to work it out--and the more I thought about that word, the more it began to mean to me. I think if you really think about that word, lifetime, as one word, it's very peculiar. And then I thought, I was thinking about time-life [audience laughter]. And that really, that was really funny. It's strange, isn't it, that those, that, that corporation should own those two words, as they do. It's very difficult to use them. We can't just call it--like, can you imagine putting out a magazine called Life? You know. Or Poetry magazine. These are very good names for a magazine. Or Time, you know. That's pretty big stuff! [Audience laughter]. What could they--and look what they've done with it, you know. So reduction is still possible [Laughter]. \"A Lifetime\"...And one other thing [laughter] before I begin this one, it's not altogether this way, you've probably, you know, you've probably found that my lines, my poetry, has a tendency, especially in the earlier poems, to be, like they say, poetic, you know, to try to be a little, to try to sound pretty. It was something that meant a great deal to me earlier, and means a little less to me now than it did then, though beauty still means as much to me as ever. I have tried, I have looked for in my poetry--and one thing, it was very pleasant hearing Ron's [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2165471] poems tonight, is a quality of voice, a quality of language, that doesn't necessarily try to be pretty at all--that tries to use the language that we are actually living with. I don't mean to try to talk about the old problems of prose and poetry, or anything of the kind. But just that, language needn't necessarily be quote, poetic, unquote. We had kind of a talk about that last night, at the reading in Ottawa, it was pretty funny. And this poem, just at least its beginning, it has that colloquialism that I enjoy.\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:35:37\nReads \"A Lifetime\".\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:37:03\nAnd the last poem that I'd like to read is a poem that is really a freak poem. This poem has taken me at least two years to write, a little longer than two years to write, I think, and has been written over and over and over and over again, and like I said about time/life, this one has also suffered a phenomenal reduction, starting out as about six pages and ending up as three, which is usually a good sign. Originally there was a line in the poem, something about the presages of civilization, you know, are on my back or in my ear, or something like that, and it was a horrible line. Like a lot of the other lines it had to be excised, and rewritten, and so forth. But the thought of it, the thought of that word, the meaning of that word, contained, lived with me, and lived with my sense of the poem. And so I've entitled it simply, \"Presages\". And also, to make it a little more comprehensible, I've put a sort of bracket, subtitle, \"From a Sixth-Floor Apartment\". Actually, the poem was begun in Manhattan [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q11299], not in Manhattan, I'm sorry, in Queens [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18424], New York, when I was staying at my in-laws' house a little over two years ago, just briefly, and was written from their sixth-floor apartment. It actually, the strange thing about this poem is it was mostly written since then, really re-written, although the first part is pretty much as it was originally.\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:38:24\nReads \"Presages: From a Sixth-Floor Apartment\" [published later in Standing Back].\n \nRobert Hogg\n00:40:40\nThank you.\n \nEND\n00:40:42\n[Cut off abruptly]."],"Note":["[{\"note\":\"\\nIn 1970, Ron Loewinsohn was teaching at the University of Berkeley (perhaps he only started in the Fall semester?), Meat Air was published in the same year and he finished his Ph.D. from Harvard in 1971.\\n\\nIn 1970, Robert Hogg was a professor of Modern Poetry at Carleton University and was most likely working on publishing Standing back (Coach House Press, 1971) and Robert Duncan: An Interview by George Bowering and Robert Hogg (Coach House Press, 1971). \",\"type\":\"General\"},{\"note\":\"Local Connections:\\n\\nDirect connections from Loewinsohn to Montreal or Sir George Williams University are unknown, however, Loewinsohn was a heavy-hitter in the American poetry ring, befriending many members of the San Francisco Renaissance, Black Mountain and Beat groups.\\n\\nRobert Hogg met George Bowering (a SGWU Poetry Committee Member) in the 60’s in Vancouver, and became involved in the Tish group.\",\"type\":\"General\"},{\"note\":\"2 reel-to-reel tapes>2 CDs>2 digital files\",\"type\":\"Preservation\"},{\"note\":\"Original transcript, research, introduction andedits by Celyn Harding-Jones\\n\\nAdditional research and edits by Ali Barillaro\",\"type\":\"Cataloguer\"}]"],"Related_works":["[{\"url\":\"https://www.worldcat.org/title/oxford-companion-to-twentieth-century-poetry-in-english/oclc/807465072&referer=brief_results\",\"citation\":\"Gray, Richard. \\\"Loewinsohn, Ron(ald William)\\\". 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And so this is sort of called \\\"Fragments of an Imaginary Noh Play\\\", and this is the dream that one of the figures has. \\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:00:26\\nReads \\\"Fragments of an Imaginary Noh Play - Walkie's Dream\\\".\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:02:39\\nI'd like to read a few selections from my book of poems The Connexions, which was printed in 1965. I'd like to begin with a poem entitled \\\"The Command\\\". I should just briefly mention that these poems were all written in a very short period of time between November and January, mostly, and a few poems written later on throughout that spring of 1965. That is, November 1964 through the early part of 1965. Most of them were written in New York and involved an experience I had there where I was very ill, and part of the time delirious. This poem was actually written a little later than some of the poems that follow. They're not spaced out chronologically in the book. \\\"The Command\\\".\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:03:34\\nReads \\\"The Command\\\" from The Connexions.\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:06:20\\nThis poem, written, actually, previous to the other, is entitled \\\"Eclipse\\\", and it was written without my own, without my knowledge, actually, at the time, that there was an eclipse taking place. It was on the eighteenth of December, 1964, written in New York City. This was a lunar eclipse. Isn't there a lunar eclipse about to...is that tonight? [Audience laughter]. It's a full moon tonight. Something's happening.\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:07:06\\nReads \\\"Eclipse\\\" from The Connexions.\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:09:12\\nThe she of that last stanza enters into this poem, which was originally entitled \\\"The Changing of Skin\\\". There's a good, considerable amount of snake imagery in these poems, all of which was the result of having hepatitis and the turning of colours. I had hepatitis rather badly, and relapsed twice with it, and each time I relapsed, of course, I turned bright yellow again. And it was quite an unusual experience, especially the first time, in which I was in the hospital, and the nurses, especially the young nurses, would come round and look at you with the most peculiar eyes, you know, as if you were really something from another world, having changed colour like that. \\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:10:02\\nReads unnamed poem [originally entitled “The Changing of Skin”].\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:14:08\\nAnother poem connected with this quite closely, another dream poem, entitled \\\"The Cave\\\".\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:14:17\\nReads \\\"The Cave\\\".\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:15:36\\nAfter this there's a descent, a further descent down, as has been instructed in an earlier poem, called \\\"The Command,\\\" and then a coming-out again. And then a poem that remembers, really, it's quite different, I'm not sure how much this poem really belonged in The Connexions. Most of the poems definitely did belong in the book, I think, though some of them don't bear reading, I don't think, now. This poem bears reading, I think, but doesn't really belong in the book. How's that?\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:16:09\\nReads unnamed poem from The Connexions.\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:16:55\\nAnd another poem, which was originally titled, \\\"Poem to Out of This World and Soul Lies\\\", was really written with John Sinclair [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q706977] in mind, whom I hope all of you keep in mind at times, specially now that he's in prison, in Michigan [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1166]. It was written to...not written really for him, but written with him in mind, listening to the record \\\"Out of This World and Soul Lies\\\" by John Coltrane [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7346].\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:17:23\\nReads [\\\"Out of This World\\\" , originally entitled “Poem to Out of This World and Soul Lies”].\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:19:09\\nAnd the last poem in the collection is entitled, simply, \\\"Song\\\".\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:19:16\\nReads \\\"Song\\\" from The Connexions.\\n\\nUnknown \\n00:19:33\\nAmbient Sound [bell].\\n\\nRobert Hogg\\n00:19:34\\nHave to change my trunks...Now I'd like to read a few poems that were written not too far removed from the time of The Connexions, some of them, and then moving right on up to the present. This poem titled simply, \\\"Once\\\" and the \\\"once\\\" is really part of the poem.\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:20:01\\nReads \\\"Once\\\" [published later in Standing Back]. \\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:20:24\\nAnd another little poem called \\\"Tropos\\\", which means, \\\"to turn\\\" in Greek, or \\\"turning\\\" in Greek.\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:20:34\\nReads \\\"Tropos\\\".\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:20:50\\nAnother short poem, written some time later, but in the same vein. \\\"A Fragment of Love\\\".\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:20:57\\nReads \\\"A Fragment of Love\\\".\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:21:12\\nThis poem was written about four or five years ago also, and was written after having given a tarot reading for a friend. And I take it that most of you will have some familiarity with the tarot cards, and anyway, the poem attempts in several places to explain, in other places just simply to give you the reading of the tarot as it was done out. And so I've just simply in parts just listed the cards that fell. It's simply called \\\"A Reading\\\".\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:21:48\\nReads \\\"A Reading\\\".\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:24:03\\nAnd now, a longer poem, a poem that really, in a sense, deals with the subject of poetry, and the subject of love, together. The poem is entitled \\\"Aries and Pisces Dream\\\". And really, I supposed, ought to be dedicated to Charles Olson [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q922978].\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:24:30\\nReads \\\"Aries and Pisces Dream\\\" [published later in Standing Back].\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:29:03\\nA short, and rather lyrical poem, which was written in response to a letter, not in very good response to a letter, actually...in which the other person asked me if I wouldn't tell them about Psyche [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q843382], what I've defined psyche, which I found was an absolutely impossible thing to do, and something that I hope I can--you could--you know, once you spend one's whole life, I suppose, trying to do it, God help you if you actually get it done, you know. There'd be nothing left to do. This poem is called \\\"Of Psyche\\\".\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:29:39\\nReads \\\"Of Psyche\\\" [published later in Standing Back]. \\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:30:26\\nA recent poem, entitled \\\"To the Moon\\\". The moon gets into a lot of my poems, one way or another. This one woke us up the other night, rather nastily. \\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:30:37\\nReads \\\"To the Moon\\\".\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:31:12\\nThis is an untitled poem, a happy poem, I hope, written in September, on the seventh of September, and it struck me, as it was the seventh of September, that in fact, in the Latin, that September is the seventh month, and was apparently the seventh month of the Roman calendar year. And so I was suddenly taken by that, because, you know, if you write dates very often, you probably use the typical numerical method of you know, putting, the day, and the month, and the year, in terms of numbers. And you usually think of September as the ninth month, which in fact it is, in our calendar, but the word is obviously, suggests, as October suggests the eighth month, September is the seventh. And so I was happy. It seemed like something new was happening. It was nice, because you know, in September, in northern, any part of Ottawa [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1930], Ottawa-area, or Ontario [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1904], or Quebec [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q176], you know what's coming, eh? You know, it's still here. So you got to be happy while you can. And it was also, I should add, that even in old times, you know, the calendar year was divided into twelve months, and so the seventh month would, in a sense, be the beginning of a new cycle. It would be six months, and that would end the first half, and there would be six more months, and September would be the first of it again. And that also excited me. It felt like Spring. [Laughter]. But I'm crazy.\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:32:42\\nReads untitled poem [published later in Standing Back]. \\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:33:05\\nAnd now a sad poem, for someone who has, who had cancer, and is apparently alright, which is kind of nice. I think I was pessimistic, I'm always terribly pessimistic about something like that, I don't find it easy to be optimistic in such situations, and optimism, the optimism that I now have again for this person is only as qualified, I dare say. The poem is entitled \\\"A Lifetime\\\", and the more I thought about that word--I didn't get the title easily, I had to work it out--and the more I thought about that word, the more it began to mean to me. I think if you really think about that word, lifetime, as one word, it's very peculiar. And then I thought, I was thinking about time-life [audience laughter]. And that really, that was really funny. It's strange, isn't it, that those, that, that corporation should own those two words, as they do. It's very difficult to use them. We can't just call it--like, can you imagine putting out a magazine called Life? You know. Or Poetry magazine. These are very good names for a magazine. Or Time, you know. That's pretty big stuff! [Audience laughter]. What could they--and look what they've done with it, you know. So reduction is still possible [Laughter]. \\\"A Lifetime\\\"...And one other thing [laughter] before I begin this one, it's not altogether this way, you've probably, you know, you've probably found that my lines, my poetry, has a tendency, especially in the earlier poems, to be, like they say, poetic, you know, to try to be a little, to try to sound pretty. It was something that meant a great deal to me earlier, and means a little less to me now than it did then, though beauty still means as much to me as ever. I have tried, I have looked for in my poetry--and one thing, it was very pleasant hearing Ron's [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2165471] poems tonight, is a quality of voice, a quality of language, that doesn't necessarily try to be pretty at all--that tries to use the language that we are actually living with. I don't mean to try to talk about the old problems of prose and poetry, or anything of the kind. But just that, language needn't necessarily be quote, poetic, unquote. We had kind of a talk about that last night, at the reading in Ottawa, it was pretty funny. And this poem, just at least its beginning, it has that colloquialism that I enjoy.\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:35:37\\nReads \\\"A Lifetime\\\".\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:37:03\\nAnd the last poem that I'd like to read is a poem that is really a freak poem. This poem has taken me at least two years to write, a little longer than two years to write, I think, and has been written over and over and over and over again, and like I said about time/life, this one has also suffered a phenomenal reduction, starting out as about six pages and ending up as three, which is usually a good sign. Originally there was a line in the poem, something about the presages of civilization, you know, are on my back or in my ear, or something like that, and it was a horrible line. Like a lot of the other lines it had to be excised, and rewritten, and so forth. But the thought of it, the thought of that word, the meaning of that word, contained, lived with me, and lived with my sense of the poem. And so I've entitled it simply, \\\"Presages\\\". And also, to make it a little more comprehensible, I've put a sort of bracket, subtitle, \\\"From a Sixth-Floor Apartment\\\". Actually, the poem was begun in Manhattan [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q11299], not in Manhattan, I'm sorry, in Queens [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18424], New York, when I was staying at my in-laws' house a little over two years ago, just briefly, and was written from their sixth-floor apartment. It actually, the strange thing about this poem is it was mostly written since then, really re-written, although the first part is pretty much as it was originally.\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:38:24\\nReads \\\"Presages: From a Sixth-Floor Apartment\\\" [published later in Standing Back].\\n \\nRobert Hogg\\n00:40:40\\nThank you.\\n \\nEND\\n00:40:42\\n[Cut off abruptly].\",\"notes\":\"Robert Hogg reads from The Connexions (Oyez Press, 1966),  as well as poems later published in Standing Back (Coach House Press, 1972), and others from unknown sources.\\n\\n00:00- Robert Hogg introduces reading and “Fragments of an Imaginary Noh Play”. [INDEX: poem, verse-play, written in 1963-4, fragments, dream.]\\n00:26- Reads “Fragments of an Imaginary Noh Play: Walkie’s Dream”. [INDEX: morning, wake, sleep, dream, water, sun, east, sea, swim, day, glass, window.]\\n02:39- Introduces “The Command”. [INDEX: selections from The Connexions, printed in     1965, written between November and January, spring of 1965, New York, ill, delirious, not chronological order.]\\n03:34- Reads “The Command”. [INDEX: snow, winter, unsaid, city, ice, wind, young, death, Erie, Great Lakes, place, New York, body, water, disease, sun, land, earth, memory, remembrance, mind, season, Eden, journey, snake.]\\n06:20- Introduces “Eclipse”. [INDEX: lunar eclipse, December 18, 1964, New York City, full moon the night of this reading.]\\n07:06- Reads “Eclipse”  [INDEX: earth, moon, fire, oracle, snake, body, naked, queen, sex, sperm, woman.]\\n09:12- Introduces unknown poem, first line “So it is empty, but for the animals...”. [INDEX: female from “Eclipse”, original title “The Changing of Skin”, snake imagery, hepatitis, relapsed, hospital, nurses.]\\n10:02- Reads unknown poem, first line “So it is empty, but for the animal...”  [INDEX:  New Testament, Judaism, Jew, Moses, Jesus, crucifixion, Mary Magdalene, vision, name, night, disease, illness, violence, snake, child, sex, mythology.]\\n14:08- Introduces “The Cave”. [INDEX: dream poem.]\\n14:17- Reads “The Cave”. [INDEX: child, cave, winter, day.]\\n15:36- Introduces unknown poem, first line “This much is remembered...”. [INDEX: descent down, “The Command”, memory, relevance in collection.]\\n16:09- Reads unknown poem, first line “This much is remembered...” [INDEX: memory,        remembrance, sea, man, land]\\n16:55- Introduces “Out of This World”. [INDEX: originally titled, “Poem to Out of This World and Soul Lies” written with John Sinclair, prison, Michigan, record “Out of this World and Soul Lies” by John Coltrane.]\\n17:23- Reads “Out of This World”. [INDEX: beginning, origin, eternity, birth, egg, snake,    woman, sex]\\n19:09- Introduces “Song” [INDEX: last poem in the collection]\\n19:16- Reads “Song”. [INDEX: sun, wind, tree, nature, bird, air, voice]\\n19:34- Introduces “Once”. [INDEX: poems written same time as The Connexions  up to the present]\\n20:01- Reads “Once”. [INDEX: poem, poet, poetry, love, line]\\n20:24- Introduces “Tropos”. [INDEX: Greek for ‘to turn’ or ‘turning’]\\n20:34- Reads “Tropos”. [INDEX: turning, couple, sight, beauty]\\n20:50- Introduces “A Fragment of Love”. [INDEX: short poem, same vein as “Tropos”]\\n20:57- Reads “A Fragment of Love”. [INDEX: winter, seasons, woman, nature]\\n21:12- Introduces “A Reading”. [INDEX: written 4-5 years previous, tarot reading, friend,     explain, cards.]\\n21:48- Reads “A Reading”. [INDEX: tarot, reading, fate, lover, magician, mother, father, night, child, blood, French, woman, friend, death, moon, sea, justice, sun, bilingual]\\n24:03- Introduces “Aries and Pisces Dream”. [INDEX: poetry, love, dedicated to Charles     Olson.] \\n24:30- Reads “Aries and Pisces Dream”. [INDEX: night, woman, awake, love, space, Charles Olson, moon, sun, earth, real, distance, bird, sleep, dance, word, world, measure, death]\\n29:03- Introduces “Of Psyche”. [INDEX: short, lyrical poem, response to a letter, Psyche, definition of Psyche.]\\n29:39- Reads “Of Psyche”. [INDEX: love, spring, Psyche, woman, man, beauty, window,      morning, dance.]\\n30:26- Introduces “To the Moon”. [INDEX: poems, moon, night.]\\n30:37- Reads “To the Moon”. [INDEX: moon, face, pain, woman, mother, light, night, laugh.]\\n31:12- Introduces Untitled Poem, first line “Fresh September...” [INDEX: written September 7th, Latin, Roman Calendar, numerical method of dates, October, Ottawa, Ontario, Quebec, happy, twelve months, new cycle, Spring.]\\n32:42- Reads Untitled Poem, first line “Fresh September...” [INDEX: nature, seasons, winter, spring, bird, sun, September]\\n33:05- Introduces “A Lifetime”. [INDEX: friend who had cancer, pessimistic, optimism, time, life, Life magazine, Poetry magazine, reduction, lines, beauty, Ron [Loewinsohn], quality of voice, quality of language, unpoetic language, Ottawa, colloquialism.]\\n35:37- Reads “A Lifetime”. [INDEX: idea, giving, time, rain, cancer, nothing, disease, death, dying, rose, tulip, growth, dark, waiting, silence.]\\n37:03- Introduces “Presages: From a Sixth-Floor Apartment”. [INDEX: freak poem, taken over two years to write, time, life, reduction of the text, six pages to three, original line in poem, presages of civilization, horrible line, rewriting, title, sub-title, begun in Queens New York, first part is original.]\\n38:24- Reads “Presages: From a Sixth-Floor Apartment”. [INDEX: city, New York, distance, apartment, earth, death, air, body, dream, river, sea, mind, time, soul, property, civilization, blood, fire, fish, Psyche, beach]\\n40:40- Robert Hogg thanks the audience.\\n40:42.66- END OF RECORDING.\",\"title\":\"\",\"credit\":\"\",\"caption\":\"\",\"content_type\":\"Sound Recording\",\"featured\":\"\",\"public_access_url\":\"https://montreal.spokenweb.ca/sgw-poetry-readings/robert-hog-at-sgwu-1970/\"},{\"file_url\":\"https://files.spokenweb.ca/concordia/sgw/audio/all_mp3/ron_loewinsohn-i086-11-033.mp3\",\"file_path\":\"files.spokenweb.ca>concordia>sgw>audio>all_mp3\",\"filename\":\"ron_loewinsohn-i086-11-033.mp3\",\"channel_field\":\"\",\"sample_rate\":\"\",\"duration\":\"00:43:00\",\"precision\":\"\",\"size\":\"103.2 MB\",\"bitrate\":\"\",\"encoding\":\"\",\"contents\":\"ron_loewinsohn-i086-11-033.mp3 [File 1 of 2]\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:00:00\\nI do want to try to read as much as I can from the more recent material, the book is called Meat Air, and the last section which is the collection of new stuff is called “Book of Ayres”. Let me start out with, let me start out with one called \\\"His Music's Like His 20 Children\\\".\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:00:30\\nReads \\\"His Music's Like His 20 Children\\\" from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969.\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:01:54\\nReads [\\\"It Is to Be Bathed in Light\\\" from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:04:25\\nThis is called \\\"Song\\\".\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:04:30\\nReads \\\"Song\\\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969, section “L’autre 1967”].\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:05:10\\nAnd this one called, \\\"The Rain, The Rain\\\".\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:05:17\\nReads \\\"The Rain, The Rain\\\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:06:20\\nLet me, let me do one called \\\"Fuck You With Your Home Run Title\\\". That title had to be changed, it was originally \\\"Fuck You Roger Maris [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q741023]\\\", but Harcourt Brace [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5654997] didn't want to be sued. It's not as if I can't afford it, it's just that it wouldn't do anybody any good. So this is \\\"Fuck You With Your Home Run Title\\\".\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:07:04\\nReads \\\"Fuck You With Your Home Run Title\\\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:07:41\\nThe quote \\\"thoughts of the party were in my head\\\" is from the World Champion Weight Lifter, who is a Communist Chinese, and after he had pressed some 5,000 lbs or something they said, you know \\\"You're fantastic, how did you do it?\\\". And he said \\\"Thoughts of the party were in my head\\\". This is called \\\"Vision of Childhood''.\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:08:15\\nReads \\\"Vision of Childhood\\\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:10:33\\nThis is called \\\"Lots of Lakes\\\".\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:10:37\\nReads \\\"Lots of Lakes\\\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:12:03\\nThis is called \\\"The Sea, Around Us\\\".\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:12:17\\nReads \\\"The Sea, Around Us\\\" [from The Sea, Around Us].\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:15:59\\nI want to read some, most of the poems from this section called \\\"Book of Ayres\\\", and I want to explain just a little bit about it if I can, I guess the most important thing to say is that they declared themselves as a book of poems, in the middle of a final exam, I was taking an exam and one of the things that we had to deal with was a poem by Emily Dickinson [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4441], which I will read to you, it's a marvelous poem, I'd never seen it before. And it's so clearly tied all of the poems I'd been working on for the past year or so together, into a bundle, into a package. Let me read to you the, this little statement which I'd written for the publication of the book, and I, simply to insist that they are before anything else, religious poems, and I, as prepossessing as I am about them now, because I think that I may have occasion later on in the reading to call that, or you may have occasion to call that to mind. That they take, as their focus, the making, the finding of the flesh in the word, that is that the word is flesh and it has to be found as such. But let me just read this statement and then I'll read you the Emily Dickinson poem, we'll go right into the “Book of Ayres”. I hope that they're, also, that they're fun, and then you say 'religion', people say, 'uh-oh', this is going to be very grim and very heavy, and in the old sense of heavy. But I hope we can have fun with them, but simply, let me do this. All the poems in the “Book of Ayres” section Meat Air, were written with the intention, though not entirely conscious ‘til rather late in the series, of making the word flesh. That is, when the poet speaks, his words are physically only air, yet they can afford us the most sensorially tangible of experiences. Further, the poem, though merely air, is what sustains us, what the soul feeds on. The poet speaks to keep the soul of man alive, that's Yeats [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q40213] in  “John Kinsella's Lament for Mrs. Mary Moore”, it's interesting that as I was grabbing for something to, for support, picked that line, because the line continues, or rather the whole passage goes \\\"And oh, but she had stories, though not for the priest's ear, to keep the soul of man alive, to banish age and care, and being old, she put a skin on everything she said.\\\" Or as Williams [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q178106] puts it, \\\"It is difficult, to get the news from poems, yet we die, every day, for lack of what is found there.\\\" Yet if the word seeks to take on the actuality of flesh, of substance, substance itself, as the poet apprehends it, in the merest of tales of his life, from day to day, seeks to take on the resonating actuality of speech, to realize itself in the actuality of the word. Love itself is both a word and a continuing act or process, both an idea and a tension in the chest, viscera and genitals, a pressure toward articulation so complex that it often stifles speech. About halfway through “The Book of Ayres”, I realized that many of the poems I'd written over the past twelve years or so, had been attempting with various degrees of success to effect these transubstantiations and so, this collection. \\\"The Dickinson Poem\\\", which if you want to take a look at it is in Thomas Johnson's editions, it's number “1651”.\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:20:02 \\nReads \\\"Poem 1651\\\" by Emily Dickinson.\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:20:49\\nAnd one last note before starting in the book has an epigraph from Jim St. Jim. \\\"I need to take a new tack, and sit on it.\\\" The first poem's called \\\"’These Worlds Have Always Moved in Harmony’\\\".\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:21:11\\nReads \\\"’These Worlds Have Always Moved in Harmony’\\\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\\n \\nUnknown\\n00:21:20\\nAmbient Sound [bell].\\n\\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:21:22\\nWhat the hell is that? I have this terrible recollection of this story I heard about a college in the Midwest in the United States [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30] where a visiting prof came out to give a lecture on Plato [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q859] or something and had this bell go off every fifteen minutes and after, it really unnerved him, and after the end of the lecture, he asked one of the people, like, \\\"What is that bell going off?\\\" and the guy, the administrator said \\\"Oh, that's to keep the students awake.\\\" I--If that's the case, God bless you, I hope we can do better than that.\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:22:08\\nReads \\\"These Worlds Have Always Moved in Harmony\\\".\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:23:34\\nAnd this is called \\\"The Sipapu\\\". Don't worry about the title, it clears up.\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:23:52\\nReads \\\"The Sipapu\\\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:27:51\\nThis is called \\\"Settling\\\".\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:27:58\\nReads \\\"Settling\\\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:29:48\\nThis is called, this next poem is called \\\"Paean\\\" p-a-e-a-n, paean, and is a collaboration in a sense that it's the kind of poem in which a number of people get together and contribute lines, you give me three lines, and I'll give you two lines and eventually the poem gets written, and simply to give credit where credit where credit is due, to list the people who did contribute or help out in the writing of this poem, John Dryden [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q213355], William Carlos Williams, and the Associated Press [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q40469].\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:30:31\\nReads \\\"Paean\\\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:32:12\\nThe story goes that St. Cecilia [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q80513] invented the organ, and when she was playing an angel passed and mistook earth for heaven because of this fantastic music. \\\"Went to her organ vocal breath was given\\\" says John Dryden. These are a couple of songs.\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:32:38\\nReads “Song” [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969; third poem entitled “Song” published in “Book of Ayres” section].\\n\\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:32:48\\nThis one also called \\\"Song\\\".\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:32:54\\nReads “Song\\\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969; fourth poem entitled “Song” published in “Book of Ayres” section].\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:33:12\\nAnd this one also called \\\"Song\\\".\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:33:18\\nReads “Song\\\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969; fifth poem entitled “Song” published in “Book of Ayres” section].\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:33:57\\nAnd this one called \\\"Air\\\".\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:34:01\\nReads \\\"Air\\\"  [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:34:59\\nAnd this one called \\\"Goat Dance\\\".\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:35:07\\nReads \\\"Goat Dance\\\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969; first poem entitled “Goat Dance” published in “Book of Ayres” section].\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:36:30\\nThis one called \\\"Two Airs\\\".\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:36:36\\nReads \\\"Two Airs\\\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:37:31\\nAnd another one called \\\"Goat Dance\\\".\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:37:35\\nReads \\\"Goat Dance\\\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969; third poem entitled “Goat Song” published in “Book of Ayres” section].\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:38:48\\nAnd this, title, may perhaps need a little bit of explanation. \\\"The Romaunt of the Rose\\\", a 13th century French dream vision poem, dream allegory, written actually in two halves by Jean de Meun [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q544925] and Guillaume de Lorris [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q544959] I'm not sure but Chaucer [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5683] translated the first part of it, and the title comes from his title, \\\"The Romaunt of the Rose\\\". The last line of the poem, “smoot right to the herte rote” is from Chaucer's translation and it's \\\"smitten right to the heart's root\\\". And the whole, the title of the poem is \\\"The Romaunt of the Rose Fuck\\\".\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:39:39\\nReads \\\"The Romaunt of the Rose Fuck\\\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:40:22\\nI'll just do two more, the first one called \\\"K. 282\\\". Koechel is--don't please, be insulted that I explain that title, I read the poem in New York [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q60] and a graduate student at Columbia [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q49088] asked me if it meant \\\"Circa 282\\\", like circa 282, like approximately 282, and it is of course the catalogue number for the Mozart [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q254] piano sonata, and it's a piano sonata, I forget which, what key it's in.\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:41:04\\nReads \\\"K. 282\\\" [from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969].\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:42:02\\nAnd the last poem is the title poem of the book, \\\"Meat Air\\\".\\n \\nRon Loewinsohn\\n00:42:08\\nReads \\\"Meat Air\\\" from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969.\\n \\nEND\\n00:43:00\\n\",\"notes\":\"Ron Loewinsohn reads from Meat Air: Poems 1957-1969 (Harcourt, Brace & World, 1970).\\n\\n00:00- Ron Loewinsohn introduces “His Music’s Like His Twenty Children” [INDEX: Meat Air by Ron Loewinsohn, published by Harcourt Brace]\\n00:30- Reads “His Music’s Like His Twenty Children”\\n01:54- Reads “It Is to Be Bathed in Light”\\n04:25- Reads “Song”\\n05:20- Reads “The Rain, The Rain”\\n06:20- Introduces “Fuck You With Your Home Run Title” [INDEX: Roger Maris: baseball \\tplayer]\\n07:04- Reads “Fuck You With Your Home Run Title”\\n07:41- Explains a line from “Fuck You With Your Home Run Title” [INDEX: Communist  \\tChinese World Champion Weight Lifter]\\n08:15- Reads “Vision of Childhood”\\n10:33- Reads “Lots of Lakes”\\n12:03- Reads “The Sea Around Us”\\n15:59- Introduces section “Book of Ayres” and Emily Dickinson Poem, “Number        \\t1651” [INDEX: “Book of Ayres” section in Meat Air, Emily Dickinson Poem from         \\tThomas Johnson’s Collection #1651, Yeats’ poem “John Kinsella’s Lament for Mrs.     \\tMary Moore”, William Carlos Williams quote, religious poetry: words are flesh, epigraph    from Jim St. Jim [sp?]]\\n20:02- Reads “1651” by Emily Dickinson\\n20:49- Introduces epigraph in Meat Air\\n21:11- Reads “These Worlds Have Always Moved in Harmony”\\n21:22- Interrupted [INDEX: Mid-Western United States]\\n22:08- Re-starts “These Worlds Have Always Moved in Harmony”\\n23:34- Reads “The Sipapu” [INDEX: South Western Native American Tradition]\\n27:51- Reads “Settling”\\n28:48- Introduces “Paean” [INDEX: Collaborative poem: John Dryden, William Carlos Williams and the Associated Press]\\n30:31- Reads “Paean”\\n32:12- Explains “Paean” [INDEX: St. Cecilia invented Organ]\\n32:38- Reads “Song: I think of you through a pain in my throat...”\\n32:48- Reads “Song: Like two apples in a tree...”\\n33:12- Reads “Song: If there is nothing but the rhythm of tears...”\\n33:57- Reads “Air”\\n34:59- Reads “Goat Dance: You inspire me...”\\n36:30- Reads “Two Airs”\\n37:31- Reads “Goat Dance: 1. In the middle of the park...”\\n38:48- Introduces “The Romaunt of the Rose Fuck” [INDEX: 13th century French Dream   allegory poetry: by Jean de Meun, Guillaume de Lorris, translated by Chaucer into “The \\tRomaunt of the Rose”]\\n39:39- Reads “The Romaunt of the Rose Fuck”\\n40:22- Introduces “K. 282” [INDEX: Koechel: Mozart piano sonata k. 282]\\n41:04- Reads “K. 282”\\n42:02- Reads “Meat Air”\\n43:00.20- END OF RECORDING\\n\\nFrom the Howard Fink List of poems:\\n*Two separate and different typed pages in print sources...\\nPAGE 1) \\nFeb 20, 1970\\n5”, mono, single track, reel, @ 3 3/4 ips; lasting 50 mins.\\n1.  “His Music is Like His Twenty Children”\\n2.  “Song” first line: “Oh her lips swell...”\\n3.  “The Rain, The Rain”\\n4.  “Fuck You With Your Home-run Title”\\n5.  “Vision of Childhood”\\n6.  “Lots of Lakes”\\n7.  “The Sea Around Us”\\n8.  “A poem by E. Dickenson”\\n9.  first line: “Angelic spirits in a winter sky...”\\n10. first line: “But originally the real world...”\\n11. “Settling”\\n12. “Paean”\\n13. “Song” first line “I think of you through a pain...”\\n14. “Song” first line “Like two apples in a tree...”\\n15. “Song” first line “If there is nothing...”\\n16. “Air”\\n17. “Goat Dance” first line “You inspire me...”\\n18. “Two Airs”\\n19. “Goat Dance” first line “In the middle of the park...”\\n20. first line “In it’s tower of bone...”\\n21. first line “In the fullness...”\\n22. “Meat Air”\\nDiscrepancies on page 2)\\n2. It is To Be Bathed In Light\\n3. Song\\n4. The Rain, The Rain\\n5. Fuck You With Your Home-Run Title\\n6. Vision of Childhood\\n7. Lots of Lakes\\n8. The Sea Around Us\\n9. These Worlds Have Always Moved In Harmony\\n10. The Cee-pah-pooh (Where The Spirit Dwells)\\n11. Settling\\n12. Paean\\n13. I Think Of You With A Pain In My Throat\\n14. Song\\n15. Song\\n16. Air\\n17. Goat Dance\\n18.Two Airs\\n19. 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He received his B.A. and M.A. from the University of British Columbia, where he co-founded and edited the influential Tish magazine from 1961-1969. Davey’s first book of poetry was published in 1963, called D-Day and after (Tishbooks), which was followed by Bridge force (Contact Press, 1965) and The scarred hull (Imago, 1966). Davey founded Open Letter, a journal of avant-garde writing and theory(which is still being published) in 1965. He then completed a Ph.D. in 1968 at the University of Southern California, with a thesis on the Black Mountain poetics. His poems from this period were collected and published in 1972 in L’an trentiesme: selected poems 1961-1970 (Community Press, 1970). Davey’s most influential poetry was produced in the early 70’s, with Weeds (Coach House Press, 1970), Four Myths for Sam Perry (Talon Books, 1970), King of swords (Talon Books, 1972), Arcana (Coach House Press, 1973), and The Clallam (Talon Books, 1973). Davey’s criticism of the period was collected in From There to Here: A Guide to English-Canadian Literature Since 1960 (Porcepic Press, 1974), his 1976 essay of the same title, published in Surviving the Paraphrase (Turnstone Press, 1983) and Reading Canadian reading (Turnstone, 1988). bp Nichol wrote an important introduction for Davey’s Selected poems: the arches (Talon Books, 1980). Davey has documented and written on Canadian authors such as Margaret Atwood, Earle Birney, Louis Dudek and Raymond Souster among others, focusing on Canadian small-press poets who would have been looked over by bigger presses. His own poetry appeared in Capitalistic affection (Coach House Press, 1982), Edward and Patricia (Coach House Press, 1984), The Louis Riel organ and piano company (Turnstone, 1985), The Abbotsford guide to India (Porcepic, 1986) and Popular narratives (Talon Books, 1991). Davey founded Swift Current, a literary journal database published from 1984 to 1990. 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His last two books Four Myths for Sam Perry and Weeds are at the publishers', and Myths for Sam Perry will be appearing in a month or so. Without further introduction, Frank Davey [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1443126].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:00:36\nThe first poems I'm going to read this evening are ones which came out of my experiences in my first marriage. My own feeling about reading poetry is that the poem is exposed to the audience at a much faster rate than what the poem is when it's on the page, and excuse me, I'm going to give you a fair bit of background material on some of these poems. These are a collection of prose poems.\n \nFrank Davey\n00:01:20\nReads unnamed poem.\n \nFrank Davey\n00:02:13\nReads “Counting” [from Weeds].\n\nFrank Davey\n00:03:11\nReads \"The Bandit\" [from Weeds]. \n \nFrank Davey\n00:04:08\nTo me some of these poems are remarkable because at the time I didn't know this marriage was breaking up and some of the, some of the poems as you can see are about experiences other than marriage and suddenly I realize of course as these poems were progressing, in particular toward the end, that the message was certainly that there was something rather infertile in my whole life, I mean even in the next poem I'm going to read, I didn't catch on, I thought, 'oh well, I'll write this poem, I can't really show it to my wife, but you know, so what'.\n \nFrank Davey\n00:04:44\nReads \"Mealtimes\" [from Weeds].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:05:46\nReads \"The Place\" [from Weeds].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:06:39\nThese poems actually form a sequence, I'm only giving you certain examples of them and jumping ahead and now the cat is suddenly in the next poem as if it hadn't left.\n \nFrank Davey\n00:06:52\nReads \"The Calling\" [from Weeds].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:08:08\nWell by this point in the sequence, the message was beginning to become more available to me. I was, I admit beginning to understand what I was writing by this point. I've always felt that it's important to write a poem whether or not you realize its significance or its relevance to your own life that you go ahead and write the poem anyway. And in this particular sequence, my own faith that poetry can reveal things to you, that the process of writing poems is a process of discovery, that in fact poems teach the poet, rather than the poet teaching the poems. The poems are wiser than the poet, if you want to look at it that way. This was--seemed to be borne out. \n\nFrank Davey\n00:09:15\nReads \"Leaves\" [from Weeds].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:10:25\nReads \"A Letter\" [from Weeds].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:11:35\nReads \"Them Apples\" [from Weeds].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:12:39\nReads \"I Do Not Write Poems\" [from Weeds].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:13:40\nReads \"Red\" [from Weeds].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:14:41\nMany ways experience played into the hands of the poems, very nice that the most disastrous years of that marriage happened to begin in a summertime situation, and to end in winter, so that the seasonal, the cycle of the seasons could play its part in the poem. But on the other hand, perhaps that wasn't accidental. One doesn't want to question these things after they've worked for you. Group of poems that are collected in the book, which Howard Fink spoke about in his introduction, Four Myths for Sam Perry.\n \nFrank Davey\n00:15:39\nReads \"Sentences of Welcome\" from Four Myths for Sam Perry.\n \nFrank Davey\n00:17:00\nI had the fortune, I was going to say good fortune, I had the fortune of being in Los Angeles [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q65] during the Watts Riots in 1965 [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q377682], and living in the riot area. I was very busy at the time and that particular experience I haven't really even begun to deal with.\n \nFrank Davey\n00:17:26\nReads \"Watts, 1965\" [from Four Myths for Sam Perry].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:18:34.12\nAt that time, in Vietnam [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q881], the most contested piece of property was Hill 488. And most of us know that mountains have a peculiar history of being sacred to human beings, Olympus [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q80344], Fuji [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q39231], Sinai [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q377485], there's a mountain in China [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q148] called Tai Shan [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q216059], I believe Confucius [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4604] made a pilgrimage up this mountain, which is apparently so sacred that the Chinese had carved thousands of steps all the way up to the summit of the mountain. There are mountains, of course, in the Himalayas [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5451], which house monasteries and which monks so far have successfully prevented anyone from climbing.\n \nFrank Davey\n00:19:39\nReads \"Hill 488\" [from Four Myths for Sam Perry].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:20:27\nDrongo is a purple bird that is peculiar to Southeast Asia [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q11708], one of the things which is never really thought of in times of conflict are all of the more, well very specific natural features of the landscape which of course are threatened by destruction in such times. We think of the problems of the defoliant in South Vietnam, when what they estimate now that more than 10% of the country has been treated with defoliant. We don't think of the individual examples of the flora and fauna which may be threatened with extinction because of this defoliation. Man of course is only one of the many inhabitants of this planet and although it is certainly a despicable thing that the biological function of human beings have been interfered with by the defoliation, children are being born malnourished, these are not the only sufferers. \n \nFrank Davey\n00:21:58\nReads \"The Drongo\" [from Four Myths for Sam Perry].\n \nUnknown\n00:23:27\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\n\nFrank Davey\n00:23:28\nAnd of course in the middle of this, there are tankers sinking.\n \nFrank Davey\n00:23:35\nReads \"Torrey Canyon\" [from Four Myths for Sam Perry].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:24:29\nWell actually for the past three years I've been writing poems, from the tarot pack. I've been somewhat disappointed to learn that all kinds of other poets have been doing this at the same time. They're getting their stuff into print but I haven't bothered because I was going to do all 88 cards and publish them all at once. At any rate, I'm going to say some more about the tarot pack later but this particular poem comes out of the tarot pack from the Emperor card and has a peculiar affinity to the poems I've just been reading.\n \nFrank Davey\n00:25:20\nReads \"The Emperor\" [published later as “Manuscript, 4 December, 1970, title ‘The Emperor’” in Arcana].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:27:03\nReads \"When\" [from Four Myths for Sam Perry]\n \nFrank Davey\n00:27:56\nBut there is also of course, another side of the coin.\n \nFrank Davey\n00:27:59\nReads \"For her, a Spring\" [from Four Myths for Sam Perry].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:30:39\nThe next poem is entitled \"A Light Poem\". For lack of a better descriptive term, I might call myself an anti-humanist, this is of course the--it's almost become a category, I thought it was unique at one point, but it's become of late a category. I think more and more people are realizing that man is not capable of appointing himself as manager, or he's capable of appointing himself, he's not capable of acting out his self-appointment as manager of this planet. That in fact, his capabilities at managing certain areas create problems that are multiples of the ones he has solved. And that the humanist dream of man through his own rationality creating a nearly utopian existence, coming to understand the workings of the universe in such a way that he can bend them to his own use, but this dream has not going to come true. And of course, one of the ways that this feeling in men has been manifested has been his utilization of light and energy, and well, to the poem. \"A Light Poem\".\n \nFrank Davey\n00:32:25\nReads \"A Light Poem\" [from Four Myths for Sam Perry]..\n \nUnknown\n00:37:24\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\n\nFrank Davey\n00:37:25\nRecently I have been writing poems from tarot cards. I have noticed a couple of things about the tarot cards that are very important for the poems. One of these is that the female symbol seems to be the most important symbol in the deck and it seems to suggest that the universe itself is essentially feminine in nature, that the fertility of the universe is feminine. Another aspect of the cards suggests that the nature of the universe is such that all sorts of mysterious things can happen to it without our understanding them. That there are all sorts of forces indicated in these cards that are essentially outside of our control. This poem, entitled \"To Win at Cards\". Tarot cards are not cards whose primary purpose is to play a game. The decks of cards with which we are all familiar with are cards where you play a game, the object of course of playing cards is to win at cards. And winning of course, is something which we are all brought up to wish, so one of the things about our competitive society that makes it work is that we all want to win. And card games help indoctrinate us in this direction. Cards, can also tell you things, this is the thing that the tarot cards have in common with poetry, is that people don't win in poetry, you don't write a better poem than somebody else in order to win prizes or to--you don't use poems in order to seduce a girl, or you don't use poems in order to accomplish any kind of end outside of the end of writing the poem. If you do, your allegiance is not to the poem and it's to something else and you're prostituting the poem. The only thing which can win at poetry is the poem itself, and this is where the poet ought to apply his effort to, is to helping the poem win.\n \nFrank Davey\n00:40:15\nReads \"To Win at Cards\" published later in Arcana].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:41:20\nThis poem, entitled \"The Hermit\", one of the figures on the cards. The card happened to cause me to recall a childhood memory of an earthquake.\n \nFrank Davey\n00:41:35\nReads \"The Hermit\" [published later in Arcana].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:42:49\nIt became very clear to me writing these Tarot poems that indeed there were many things outside of one's control and my wife and I were putting together a jigsaw puzzle of the moon, I think it was a satellite photograph of one side of the moon, and things started to go wrong.\n \nFrank Davey\n00:43:16\nReads [“Luna”, published later in Arcana].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:44:52\nThroughout history of course, men have been obsessed with the idea of being displaced by another man. Either in the seat--in the kingdom, or in the favors of the special woman in their lives. We have in mythology of course, many myths of Gods being displaced very often by their children. In Greek drama of course, the classical example is the Oedipus [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q130890] myth where Laius [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q463898] and Jocasta [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q131445] have their married lives disrupted by their son, Oedipus. This is a poem about this particular fear. Fear of being displaced by someone younger, very often, fear of being displaced by one's own son, although that's not necessarily integral to the poem.\n \nFrank Davey\n00:45:53\nReads [\"Menelaus, To You\", published later in Arcana].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:47:19\nIf you choose to go to war with the natural environment, strange things happen. “King of Pentacles” is wrapped in a coat of binds.\n \nFrank Davey\n00:47:34\nReads \"King of Pentacles\" [published later in Arcana].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:48:44\nTimes when men do the right things, or seem to do the right things. A poem called \"The Caughnawaga Bell\".\n \nFrank Davey\n00:48:55\nReads \"The Caughnawaga Bell\" [published later in Arcana].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:50:32\nI'd like to conclude with a couple of poems about the whole problem of writing. It's always a problem for a poet to keep the process of writing going. One of the tricks of poets of course is always to write poems about the fact that the process of writing isn't going. I have a number of these. \"The Mountain\".\n \nFrank Davey\n00:51:06\nReads \"The Mountain\" [from Four Myths for Sam Perry].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:51:50\nOf course, the thing is, as soon as you begin to pay homage to the fact that you're having trouble writing a poem and express your will to, you are in fact being repaid. As soon as I remembered this myth of Popocatepetl [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1782392] and you know, the earth literally repaying the boy for his homage representing him with a mountain. If you couldn't grow corn on it, at least you could lure the Yankees down to look at. [Audience laughter].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:52:24\nReads \"The Bells\" [from Four Myths for Sam Perry].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:53:33\nThis poem, entitled \"The Making\".\n \nFrank Davey\n00:53:41\nReads \"The Making\" [from Four Myths for Sam Perry].\n \nFrank Davey\n00:55:34\nAnd so, I wish you all good winds!\n \nEND\n00:55:37\n"],"Note":["[{\"note\":\"Year-Specific Information:\\n\\nIn 1970, Frank Davey had written both Weeds and Four Myths for Sam Perry, and his poems were collected in L’an Trentiesme: Selected Poems 1961-1970, all published that year. He was the writer-in-residence at Sir George Williams University from 1969-1970.\",\"type\":\"General\"},{\"note\":\"Local Connections:\\n\\nFrank Davey’s influence reaches farther than his numerous publications, as he was devoted to the publication of other new poets and to the little magazine in Canada. A founding member of Tish, along with Fred Wah and George Bowering (a magazine responsible for a re-birth of poetry in Vancouver and the publication of some of the most important figures in Canadian poetry today) and as a managing editor of Toronto’s Coach House Press, Davey has also documented his fellow poets through bibliographies and biographies. Davey and Bowering no doubt had a long history together, starting in Vancouver, and Bowering most likely invited Davey to Sir George Williams University to read in this series. \",\"type\":\"General\"},{\"note\":\"Original transcript, research, introduction and edits by Celyn Harding-Jones\\n\\nAdditional research and edits by Ali Barillaro\",\"type\":\"Cataloguer\"},{\"note\":\"Reel-to-reel tap>CD>digital file\",\"type\":\"Preservation\"}]"],"Related_works":["[{\"url\":\"https://www.worldcat.org/title/contemporary-canadian-poem-anthology/oclc/476332314&referer=brief_results\",\"citation\":\"Bowering, George, ed. The Contemporary Canadian Poem Anthology. Toronto: Coach House Press, 1984. \"},{\"url\":\"https://www.worldcat.org/title/from-there-to-here-a-guide-to-english-canadian-literature-since-1960-ii-our-nature-our-voices/oclc/878901819&referer=brief_results\",\"citation\":\"Bowering, George. “Davey, Frank”. From There to Here: A Guide to English-Canadian Literature Since 1960, Our Nature-Our Voices II. Frank Davey.  Erin, Ontario: Press Porcepic, 1974. \"},{\"url\":\"https://www.worldcat.org/title/arcana/oclc/655182833&referer=brief_results\",\"citation\":\"Davey, Frank. Arcana. Toronto: Coach House Press, 1973. \"},{\"url\":\"https://www.worldcat.org/title/four-myths-for-sam-perry/oclc/422678742&referer=brief_results\",\"citation\":\"Davey, Frank. Four Myths for Sam Perry. Vancouver: Talonbooks, 1970. \"},{\"url\":\"https://www.worldcat.org/title/weeds-poems-by-frank-davey/oclc/639736215&referer=brief_results\",\"citation\":\"Davey, Frank. Weeds. 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His last two books Four Myths for Sam Perry and Weeds are at the publishers', and Myths for Sam Perry will be appearing in a month or so. Without further introduction, Frank Davey [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1443126].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:00:36\\nThe first poems I'm going to read this evening are ones which came out of my experiences in my first marriage. My own feeling about reading poetry is that the poem is exposed to the audience at a much faster rate than what the poem is when it's on the page, and excuse me, I'm going to give you a fair bit of background material on some of these poems. These are a collection of prose poems.\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:01:20\\nReads unnamed poem.\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:02:13\\nReads “Counting” [from Weeds].\\n\\nFrank Davey\\n00:03:11\\nReads \\\"The Bandit\\\" [from Weeds]. \\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:04:08\\nTo me some of these poems are remarkable because at the time I didn't know this marriage was breaking up and some of the, some of the poems as you can see are about experiences other than marriage and suddenly I realize of course as these poems were progressing, in particular toward the end, that the message was certainly that there was something rather infertile in my whole life, I mean even in the next poem I'm going to read, I didn't catch on, I thought, 'oh well, I'll write this poem, I can't really show it to my wife, but you know, so what'.\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:04:44\\nReads \\\"Mealtimes\\\" [from Weeds].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:05:46\\nReads \\\"The Place\\\" [from Weeds].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:06:39\\nThese poems actually form a sequence, I'm only giving you certain examples of them and jumping ahead and now the cat is suddenly in the next poem as if it hadn't left.\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:06:52\\nReads \\\"The Calling\\\" [from Weeds].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:08:08\\nWell by this point in the sequence, the message was beginning to become more available to me. I was, I admit beginning to understand what I was writing by this point. I've always felt that it's important to write a poem whether or not you realize its significance or its relevance to your own life that you go ahead and write the poem anyway. And in this particular sequence, my own faith that poetry can reveal things to you, that the process of writing poems is a process of discovery, that in fact poems teach the poet, rather than the poet teaching the poems. The poems are wiser than the poet, if you want to look at it that way. This was--seemed to be borne out. \\n\\nFrank Davey\\n00:09:15\\nReads \\\"Leaves\\\" [from Weeds].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:10:25\\nReads \\\"A Letter\\\" [from Weeds].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:11:35\\nReads \\\"Them Apples\\\" [from Weeds].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:12:39\\nReads \\\"I Do Not Write Poems\\\" [from Weeds].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:13:40\\nReads \\\"Red\\\" [from Weeds].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:14:41\\nMany ways experience played into the hands of the poems, very nice that the most disastrous years of that marriage happened to begin in a summertime situation, and to end in winter, so that the seasonal, the cycle of the seasons could play its part in the poem. But on the other hand, perhaps that wasn't accidental. One doesn't want to question these things after they've worked for you. Group of poems that are collected in the book, which Howard Fink spoke about in his introduction, Four Myths for Sam Perry.\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:15:39\\nReads \\\"Sentences of Welcome\\\" from Four Myths for Sam Perry.\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:17:00\\nI had the fortune, I was going to say good fortune, I had the fortune of being in Los Angeles [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q65] during the Watts Riots in 1965 [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q377682], and living in the riot area. I was very busy at the time and that particular experience I haven't really even begun to deal with.\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:17:26\\nReads \\\"Watts, 1965\\\" [from Four Myths for Sam Perry].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:18:34.12\\nAt that time, in Vietnam [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q881], the most contested piece of property was Hill 488. And most of us know that mountains have a peculiar history of being sacred to human beings, Olympus [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q80344], Fuji [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q39231], Sinai [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q377485], there's a mountain in China [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q148] called Tai Shan [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q216059], I believe Confucius [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4604] made a pilgrimage up this mountain, which is apparently so sacred that the Chinese had carved thousands of steps all the way up to the summit of the mountain. There are mountains, of course, in the Himalayas [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5451], which house monasteries and which monks so far have successfully prevented anyone from climbing.\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:19:39\\nReads \\\"Hill 488\\\" [from Four Myths for Sam Perry].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:20:27\\nDrongo is a purple bird that is peculiar to Southeast Asia [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q11708], one of the things which is never really thought of in times of conflict are all of the more, well very specific natural features of the landscape which of course are threatened by destruction in such times. We think of the problems of the defoliant in South Vietnam, when what they estimate now that more than 10% of the country has been treated with defoliant. We don't think of the individual examples of the flora and fauna which may be threatened with extinction because of this defoliation. Man of course is only one of the many inhabitants of this planet and although it is certainly a despicable thing that the biological function of human beings have been interfered with by the defoliation, children are being born malnourished, these are not the only sufferers. \\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:21:58\\nReads \\\"The Drongo\\\" [from Four Myths for Sam Perry].\\n \\nUnknown\\n00:23:27\\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\\n\\nFrank Davey\\n00:23:28\\nAnd of course in the middle of this, there are tankers sinking.\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:23:35\\nReads \\\"Torrey Canyon\\\" [from Four Myths for Sam Perry].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:24:29\\nWell actually for the past three years I've been writing poems, from the tarot pack. I've been somewhat disappointed to learn that all kinds of other poets have been doing this at the same time. They're getting their stuff into print but I haven't bothered because I was going to do all 88 cards and publish them all at once. At any rate, I'm going to say some more about the tarot pack later but this particular poem comes out of the tarot pack from the Emperor card and has a peculiar affinity to the poems I've just been reading.\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:25:20\\nReads \\\"The Emperor\\\" [published later as “Manuscript, 4 December, 1970, title ‘The Emperor’” in Arcana].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:27:03\\nReads \\\"When\\\" [from Four Myths for Sam Perry]\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:27:56\\nBut there is also of course, another side of the coin.\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:27:59\\nReads \\\"For her, a Spring\\\" [from Four Myths for Sam Perry].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:30:39\\nThe next poem is entitled \\\"A Light Poem\\\". For lack of a better descriptive term, I might call myself an anti-humanist, this is of course the--it's almost become a category, I thought it was unique at one point, but it's become of late a category. I think more and more people are realizing that man is not capable of appointing himself as manager, or he's capable of appointing himself, he's not capable of acting out his self-appointment as manager of this planet. That in fact, his capabilities at managing certain areas create problems that are multiples of the ones he has solved. And that the humanist dream of man through his own rationality creating a nearly utopian existence, coming to understand the workings of the universe in such a way that he can bend them to his own use, but this dream has not going to come true. And of course, one of the ways that this feeling in men has been manifested has been his utilization of light and energy, and well, to the poem. \\\"A Light Poem\\\".\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:32:25\\nReads \\\"A Light Poem\\\" [from Four Myths for Sam Perry]..\\n \\nUnknown\\n00:37:24\\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\\n\\nFrank Davey\\n00:37:25\\nRecently I have been writing poems from tarot cards. I have noticed a couple of things about the tarot cards that are very important for the poems. One of these is that the female symbol seems to be the most important symbol in the deck and it seems to suggest that the universe itself is essentially feminine in nature, that the fertility of the universe is feminine. Another aspect of the cards suggests that the nature of the universe is such that all sorts of mysterious things can happen to it without our understanding them. That there are all sorts of forces indicated in these cards that are essentially outside of our control. This poem, entitled \\\"To Win at Cards\\\". Tarot cards are not cards whose primary purpose is to play a game. The decks of cards with which we are all familiar with are cards where you play a game, the object of course of playing cards is to win at cards. And winning of course, is something which we are all brought up to wish, so one of the things about our competitive society that makes it work is that we all want to win. And card games help indoctrinate us in this direction. Cards, can also tell you things, this is the thing that the tarot cards have in common with poetry, is that people don't win in poetry, you don't write a better poem than somebody else in order to win prizes or to--you don't use poems in order to seduce a girl, or you don't use poems in order to accomplish any kind of end outside of the end of writing the poem. If you do, your allegiance is not to the poem and it's to something else and you're prostituting the poem. The only thing which can win at poetry is the poem itself, and this is where the poet ought to apply his effort to, is to helping the poem win.\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:40:15\\nReads \\\"To Win at Cards\\\" published later in Arcana].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:41:20\\nThis poem, entitled \\\"The Hermit\\\", one of the figures on the cards. The card happened to cause me to recall a childhood memory of an earthquake.\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:41:35\\nReads \\\"The Hermit\\\" [published later in Arcana].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:42:49\\nIt became very clear to me writing these Tarot poems that indeed there were many things outside of one's control and my wife and I were putting together a jigsaw puzzle of the moon, I think it was a satellite photograph of one side of the moon, and things started to go wrong.\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:43:16\\nReads [“Luna”, published later in Arcana].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:44:52\\nThroughout history of course, men have been obsessed with the idea of being displaced by another man. Either in the seat--in the kingdom, or in the favors of the special woman in their lives. We have in mythology of course, many myths of Gods being displaced very often by their children. In Greek drama of course, the classical example is the Oedipus [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q130890] myth where Laius [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q463898] and Jocasta [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q131445] have their married lives disrupted by their son, Oedipus. This is a poem about this particular fear. Fear of being displaced by someone younger, very often, fear of being displaced by one's own son, although that's not necessarily integral to the poem.\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:45:53\\nReads [\\\"Menelaus, To You\\\", published later in Arcana].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:47:19\\nIf you choose to go to war with the natural environment, strange things happen. “King of Pentacles” is wrapped in a coat of binds.\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:47:34\\nReads \\\"King of Pentacles\\\" [published later in Arcana].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:48:44\\nTimes when men do the right things, or seem to do the right things. A poem called \\\"The Caughnawaga Bell\\\".\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:48:55\\nReads \\\"The Caughnawaga Bell\\\" [published later in Arcana].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:50:32\\nI'd like to conclude with a couple of poems about the whole problem of writing. It's always a problem for a poet to keep the process of writing going. One of the tricks of poets of course is always to write poems about the fact that the process of writing isn't going. I have a number of these. \\\"The Mountain\\\".\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:51:06\\nReads \\\"The Mountain\\\" [from Four Myths for Sam Perry].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:51:50\\nOf course, the thing is, as soon as you begin to pay homage to the fact that you're having trouble writing a poem and express your will to, you are in fact being repaid. As soon as I remembered this myth of Popocatepetl [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1782392] and you know, the earth literally repaying the boy for his homage representing him with a mountain. If you couldn't grow corn on it, at least you could lure the Yankees down to look at. [Audience laughter].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:52:24\\nReads \\\"The Bells\\\" [from Four Myths for Sam Perry].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:53:33\\nThis poem, entitled \\\"The Making\\\".\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:53:41\\nReads \\\"The Making\\\" [from Four Myths for Sam Perry].\\n \\nFrank Davey\\n00:55:34\\nAnd so, I wish you all good winds!\\n \\nEND\\n00:55:37\\n\",\"notes\":\"Frank Davey reads from Four Myths for Sam Perry (Talonbooks, 1970) and Weeds (Coach House Press, 1970), as well as poems published later in Arcana (Coach House Press, 1973).\\n\\n00:00- Howard Fink introduces Frank Davey. [INDEX: West Coast poet, Montreal Star, founding editor of Tish, Open Letter, Four Myths for Sam Perry, Weeds in publication]\\n00:36- Frank Davey introduces poetry reading [INDEX: reading poetry, first marriage, prose poems]\\n01:20- Reads “How We Are” first line “How alone we are from each other...”\\n03:11- Reads “The Bandit”\\n04:08- Introduces next group of poems [INDEX: marriage, process of writing]\\n04:44- Reads “Meal Times”\\n05:46- Reads “The Place”\\n06:39- Explains that poems are in a sequence\\n06:52- Reads “The Calling”\\n08:08- Explains process of writing these poems [INDEX: process of writing]\\n09:15- Reads “Leaves”\\n10:25- Reads “A Letter”\\n11:35- Reads “Them Apples”\\n12:39- Reads “I Do Not Write Poems”\\n13:40- Reads “Red and Where is Love?”\\n14:41- Introduces group of poems from Four Myths for Sam Perry\\n15:39- Reads “Sentences of Welcome”\\n17:00- Introduces “Watts, 1965” [INDEX: Watts Riot in 1965, Los Angeles,]\\n17:26- Reads “Watts, 1965”\\n18:34- Introduces “Hill 488” [INDEX: Vietnam, Hill 488, Olympus, Fuji, Sinai, Tai Shan,        Confucius, Himalayas.]\\n19:39- Reads “Hill 488”\\n20:27- Introduces “The Drongo” [INDEX: Drongo bird, South East Asia, conflict, South       Vietnam, destruction of flora and fauna during war, defoliation]\\n21:58- Reads “The Drongo”\\n23:35- Reads “Torrey Canyon”\\n24:29- Introduces “The Emperor” [INDEX: tarot cards, Emperor card]\\n25:29- Reads “The Emperor”\\n27:03- Reads “When”\\n27:59- Reads “For Her, a Spring”\\n30:39- Introduces “A Light Poem” [INDEX: anti-humanism, light and energy]\\n32:25- Reads “A Light Poem”\\n37:25- Introduces “To Win at Cards” [INDEX: tarot cards]\\n40:15- Reads “To Win at Cards”\\n41:20- Introduces “The Hermit”\\n41:35- Reads “The Hermit”\\n42:49- Introduces “The Moon” first line “When the moon demanded that...” [INDEX: tarot    cards, moon]\\n43:16- Reads “The Moon”\\n44:52- Introduces “A Child” [INDEX: mythology of Oedipus]\\n45:53- Reads “A Child”\\n47:19- Introduces “King of Pentacles”\\n47:34- Reads “King of Pentacles”\\n48:44- Introduces “The Caughnawaga Bell”\\n48:55- Reads “The Caughnawaga Bell”\\n50:32- Introduces “The Mountain” [INDEX: process of writing’]\\n51:06- Reads “The Mountain”\\n51:50- Explains “The Mountain” [INDEX: myth of Popocatepetl ]\\n52:24- Reads “The Bells”\\n53:33- Reads “The Making”\\n55:37.72- END OF RECORDING\\n \\nHoward Fink List:\\nFrank Davey\\nRecorded Feb 6, 1970\\n \\n1.  “How Alone We Are”\\n2.  “Counting”\\n3.  “The Bandit”\\n4.  “Mealtimes”\\n5.  “The Place”\\n6.  “The Calling”\\n7.  “Leaves”\\n8.  “A Letter”\\n9.  “Them Apples”\\n10. “I Do Not Write Poems”\\n11. “Red”\\n12. “Sentences of Welcome”\\n13. “Watts- 1965”\\n14. “Hill 488”\\n15. “The Drongo”\\n16. “Tory Canyon”\\n17. “The Emperor”\\n18. “When”\\n19. “For Her A Spring” (serial poem)\\n20. “A Light Poem” (serial poem)\\n21. “To Win at Cards”\\n22. “The Hermit”\\n23. “The Moon”\\n24. “The Child”\\n25. “The Horned God”\\n26. 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BALL refers to David Ball. \n\n\"DAVID BALL & TOM RAWORTH I006/SR133\" written on sticker on the spine of the tape's box. \n\n\"GLADYS HINDMARCH I006-11-133\" written on sticker on the reel (possible mistake)."],"item_language":["English"],"item_production_context":["Documentary recording"],"item_series_title":["The Poetry Series"],"item_subseries_title":["Poetry 4"],"item_identifiers":["[]"],"creator_names":["Ball, David","Raworth, Tom"],"creator_names_search":["Ball, David","Raworth, Tom"],"creators":["[{\"url\":\"http://viaf.org/viaf/43626927\",\"name\":\"Ball, David\",\"dates\":\"1942-\",\"notes\":\"David Ball was born on February 27, 1937 in New York, New York. He received his B.A. from Brandeis University in 1959, studied at the Sorbonne, University of Paris, Licence et Lettres in 1964, Docteur en Littérature Générale et Comparée in 1971. He was a lecturer at Smith College, MA, from 1969-1971, an assistant professor from 1971 to 1976, and an associate professor of French from 1976-. In 1959 David Ball was a Fulbright scholar, won a French Government fellowship from 1967 to 1968, and the Eugene M. Warren Poetry Prize from Brandeis University in 1957. Ball’s work appeared in Jazz Poems, an anthology edited by Anselm Hollow in 1963. He also wrote poems and translations to journals including Locus Solus, World, Massachusetts Review, Atlantic Monthly, New Republic, Études Anglaises and Revue de Littérature  Comparée. He served as the editor of Blue Pig magazine. David Ball published a chapbook, We Just Wanted to Tell You with Anselm Hollo  in 1963 (Writers Forum). His first book of verse, Two Poems came out in 1964, published by Matrix Press in London. His books New Topoi, (Buffalo Press,1972), The Mutant Daughter, (Buffalo Press, 1975), Praise of Crazy, (Diana’s bimonthly,1975), The Garbage Poems: From the New Zone in 1976 (Burning Deck), and In Cities (Potato Clock Editions) in 2001 followed. David Ball translated and introduced Leda: In Praise of the Blessings of Darkness (Cheeloniideae Press), by Pierre Louys in 1985 and Darkness Moves: An Henri Michaux Anthology 1927-1984 (University of California Press) in 1994, which won MLA’s Scaglione Prize for Outstanding Translation of a Literary Work in 1996. Other translations include Pierre Loti’s Constantinople: The Way It Was (Unlem Press) and The Green Mosque at Bursa in 2006, and Abdourahman A. Waberi’s In the United States of Africa (University of Nebraska Press) in 2009. Most recently he translated Alfred Jarry’s Ubu the King in the spring of 2009. David Ball is a member of PEN American Center. \",\"nation\":[],\"role\":[\"Performer\",\"Author\"]},{\"url\":\"https://viaf.org/viaf/79047481\",\"name\":\"Raworth, Tom\",\"dates\":\"1938-2017\",\"notes\":\"Poet Tom Raworth was born in 1938 and grew up in the outskirts of London. Raworth left grammar school at sixteen and pursued many odd jobs, frequented all-night jazz clubs while writing a collaborative secret-agent novel in addition to his own poetry. He married in the late 50’s and had three children. In 1963 he was publishing and printing his own magazine, Outburst, meeting the likes of Michael Horowitz, Anselm Hollo, David Ball, publishing Robert Creeley, Ed Dorn, Charles Olson, LeRoi Jones and Gregory Corso. His first book of verse, The Minicab War (Matrix Press) was a collaboration with Hollo and Corso in 1961. Under Matrix Press, he published Dorn’s From Gloucester Out, and Hollo’s History. Raworth met Barry Hall and in 1965, they formed Goliard Press and published books by Charles Olson, and Ron Padgett. Jonathan Cape’s publishing house and Goliard merged in 1967, becoming Cape Goliard Press, publishing Olson’s The Maximus Poems in 1970. The Relation Ship (Cape Goliard Press) was published in 1966, re-printed in 1969, and drew the attention of Donald Davie and Dorn at University of Essex, who offered him the opportunity to continue his education. The Relation Ship won the Alice Hunt Bartlett prize in 1969. Raworth also published smaller collections of poetry, Continuation in 1966 (Goliard), Haiku (another collaboration with Hollo and John Esam) in 1968 (Trigram Press), and Betrayal in 1969. A Serial Biography (Fulcrum Press) published in 1969 spawned from a correspondence with Ed Dorn, and culminated with correspondences from letters with Park magazine. Written in 1968 while Raworth was studying Spanish at the University of Granada, (through the University of Essex), Lion Lion (Trigram Press) was published in 1970. Over the subsequent two decades, Raworth took up position as poet-in-residence at King’s College, Cambridge for a year, and published over a dozen other books, including Ace (The Figures Press, 1974), Cloister (Sand Project Press, 1975), Logbook (Poltroon Press, 1977), Nicht Wahr, Rosie? (Poltroon Press,1980), and Lazy Left Hand: Notes from 1970-1975 (Actual Size Press,1986). His poems were later compiled in Collected Poems (Carcanet, 2003). 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Tom Raworth reads from The Relation Ship (Cape Goliard Press, 1969), The Big Green Day (Trigram, 1968),  Lion Lion (Trigram, 1970), as well as poems later published in Moving (Cape Goliard Press, 1971)."],"contents":["david_ball_tom_raworth_i006-11-133.mp3\n\nIntroducer\n00:00:00\nDavid Ball is currently a professor of French at Smith College [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q49204], he has published his poetry in the Atlantic Monthly [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1542536], and Locus Solus [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6666062], Poor.Old.Tired.Horse [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q64866104], Blue Pig which he was co-editor, Outburst, Jazz Poems, [The Wyvenhoe (?)] Park Review, etc, etc and a wide variety of publications. He has two tiny books that were published in London [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q84], we just wanted to tell you, and two and he has two long, long poems that are published by the Matrix Press, and a long poem, titled “The Boring Poems”, which he will read tonight. This will also be published in Copenhagen [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1748] with a French title. David Ball has spent the last ten years in Paris [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q90]. He has some other poem sequences which have been published along with Tom Raworth [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7817338] and others and he has worked with Tom Raworth on the translation of several of Rene Char's poems, one of which received an accolade from René Char [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q315015] himself. We give you David Ball.\n\nDavid Ball\n00:01:40\nReads unnamed poem [series].\n\nDavid Ball\n00:11:34\nFrom Anti-Tish happenings, “The Second”. \n\nDavid Ball\n00:11:38\nReads \"The Second\".\n\nDavid Ball\n00:13:25\nThat's the end of the New Zone poems\n\nDavid Ball\n00:13:28\nReads unnamed poem [series].\n\nUnknown\n00:18:17\nSilence [cut or edit in tape].\n\nIntroducer\n00:18:26\nTom Raworth is a central figure in the emergence of the British Avant-Garde, he is also well represented in most forward North American publications, he was the editor of the underground Goliard Press before it was taken up as the revolutionary branch of Johnathan Cape [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3277534] books, and his own publications include The Relation Ship, The Big Green Day and most recently, Lion, Lion , poetry that along with that of Anselm Hollo [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q252476], and Turnbull [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5516589] will define what happened in the British verse of the 60's. Cape Goliard has also published his Serial Biography which is a most exciting experiment on the British prose scene, and he is also one of the first poets to be heard on Steam Records, a series of LPs presenting leading American and British poets reading their works. This year, he is poet in residence at Essex [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1075104].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:19:40\nThis is a poem called \"My Face is My Own, I Thought\".\n\nTom Raworth\n00:19:44\nReads \"My Face is My Own, I Thought\" [from The Relation Ship].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:20:19\nThese are two poems about children, the first poem's called \"Three\".\n\nTom Raworth\n00:20:26\nReads \"Three\" [from The Relation Ship].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:20:51\nReads \"Morning\" from The Relation Ship. \n\nTom Raworth\n00:21:17\nReads \"The Third Retainer\" [from The Relation Ship]. \n\nTom Raworth\n00:21:54\nReads \"September Morning\" [from The Relation Ship]. \n\nTom Raworth\n00:22:40\nThis poem is called \"Shoes\".\n\nTom Raworth\n00:22:51\nReads \"Shoes\" [from The Big Green Day].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:23:35\nThis is a poem in eight parts called \"Love Poem\".\n\nTom Raworth\n00:23:43\nReads \"Love Poem\" [from The Big Green Day].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:25:06\nThis is a short poem called \"Georgia on My Mind\".\n\nTom Raworth\n00:25:10\nReads \"Georgia on My Mind\" [from The Big Green Day].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:25:32\nThis is a poem called \"Got Me\" which is difficult to read because the last part of the poem is the first part of it, corrected.\n\nTom Raworth\n00:25:43\nReads \"Got Me\" [from The Big Green Day].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:26:17\nThis poem is called \"Wham! The Race Begins\".\n\nTom Raworth\n00:26:24\nReads \"Wham! The Race Begins\" [from The Big Green Day].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:26:53\nReads \"Hot Day at the Races\" [from The Big Green Day].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:27:50\nI’ll just read a few poems from a book called Lion, Lion. The quote from the beginning is from an old poem from Gregory Corso [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q470871]., called “Dementia in an African Apartment House”. \n\nTom Raworth\n00:28:02\nReads “Dementia in an African Apartment House” by Gregory Corso. \n\nTom Raworth\n00:28:10\nThe first poem is called \"Lion, Lion\".\n\nTom Raworth\n00:28:13\nReads \"Lion, Lion\" from Lion, Lion. \n\nTom Raworth\n00:28:27\nThis is a poem in four parts called \"Traveling\".\n\nTom Raworth\n00:28:35\nReads \"Traveling\" [from Lion, Lion].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:29:23\nReads \"The Plaza in the Flaming Orange Trees\" [from Lion, Lion].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:30:08\nThis poem is called \"Dear Sir, Flying Saucers, Flying Saucers, Flying Saucers\".\n\nTom Raworth\n00:30:14\nReads \"Dear Sir, Flying Saucers, Flying Saucers, Flying Saucers\" [from Lion, Lion].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:30:53\nThis is called \"King of the Snow\".\n\nTom Raworth\n00:30:58\nReads \"King of the Snow\" [from Lion, Lion].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:31:39\nReads \"South America\" [from Lion, Lion].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:33:00\nThis is a poem called \"Claudette Colbert by Billy Wilder”, and all the lines are just by Billy Wilder [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q51547], they're from films that he made with Claudette Colbert https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q203819].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:33:15\nReads \"Claudette Colbert by Billy Wilder” [from Lion, Lion].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:34:12\nThe last poem in Lion, Lion is called \"Vensuramos\".\n\nTom Raworth\n00:34:16\nReads \"Vensuramos\" from Lion, Lion.\n\nTom Raworth\n00:34:46\nI'll just read a few poems from, that I've been working on recently, that's a sequence called “Into the Living Sea” from a poem by John Clare [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q981572] called \"I Am\", the middle stanza of which goes \"Into the nothingness of scorn and noise, into the living sea of waking dream, where there is neither sense of life, nor joys, but the huge shipwreck of my own esteem, and all that's dear, even those that I love the best are strange, nay, they are stranger than the rest\". The first poem is called \"The Moon Upon the Waters\". \n\nTom Raworth\n00:35:27\nReads \"The Moon Upon the Waters\" [published later in Moving].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:36:35\nReads \"Reverse Map\" [published later in Moving].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:37:21\nReads \"Who Would True Valour See\" [published later in Moving].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:37:56\nReads \"The Corpse in My Head\" [published later in Moving].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:38:33\nThis is a poem called \"Helpston, £9,850 Stone Built Residence\".\n\nTom Raworth\n00:38:42\nReads \"Helpston, £9,850 Stone Built Residence\" [published later in Moving].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:39:26\nThis is just a short poem called \"The Stroboscopic Forest Light Plays\" .\n\nTom Raworth\n00:39:30\nReads \"The Stroboscopic Forest Light Plays\" [published later in Moving].\n\nTom Raworth \n00:39:40\nI'll just read two more poems. This one's called \"Purely Personal\".\n\nTom Raworth\n00:39:46\nReads \"Purely Personal\" [published later in Moving].\n\nTom Raworth\n00:40:19\nThe last poem's called \"Notes of the Song / Ain't Gonna Stay in This Town Long\".\n\nTom Raworth\n00:40:23\nReads \"Notes of the Song / Ain't Gonna Stay in This Town Long\" [published later in Moving].\n\nEND\n00:40:45\n"],"Note":["[{\"note\":\"Year-Specific Information:\\n\\nDavid Ball was a lecturer at Smith College, Massachusetts in 1970. \\n\\nTom Raworth was the poet-in-residence at the University of Essex. Lion Lion was also published in 1970. \",\"type\":\"General\"},{\"note\":\"Local Connections:\\n\\nBall--Unknown connection to Canadian, Montreal, and Sir George Williams University poetry scene at this point.\\n\\nRaworth--No known connections to Canadian/Montreal/Concordia poetry scene, however he was connected to David Ball. Tom Raworth was an important poet and publisher of poetry and experimental works, publishing the work of Robert Creeley, Ed Dorn, Charles Olson, Anselm Hollo and Gregory Corso. \",\"type\":\"General\"},{\"note\":\"Original transcript, research, introduction and edits by Celyn Harding-Jones\\n\\nAdditional research and edits by Faith Paré (2020) & Ali Barillaro (2021)\\n\",\"type\":\"Cataloguer\"},{\"note\":\"Reel-to-reel tape>CD>digital file\",\"type\":\"Preservation\"}]"],"Related_works":["[{\"url\":\"https://www.worldcat.org/title/big-green-day/oclc/640029679&referer=brief_results\",\"citation\":\"Raworth, Tom. The Big Green Day: Poems. London: Trigram Press, 1968. \"},{\"url\":\"https://www.worldcat.org/title/relation-ship-poems/oclc/23061569&referer=brief_results\",\"citation\":\"Raworth, Tom. The Relation Ship. London: Goliard Press, 1969. \"},{\"url\":\"\",\"citation\":\"\\\"David Ball.\\\" Contemporary Authors Online. Detroit: Gale, 2001. \"},{\"url\":\"\",\"citation\":\"Robinson, Kit. \\\"Thomas Moore Raworth.\\\" Poets of Great Britain and Ireland Since 1960. Ed. Vincent B. Sherry. Dictionary of Literary Biography. Vol. 40. Detroit: Gale Research, 1985. \"},{\"url\":\"https://www.worldcat.org/title/lion-lion/oclc/941047536&referer=brief_results\",\"citation\":\"Raworth, Tom. Lion Lion. London: Tigram Press, 1970. \"},{\"url\":\"https://www.worldcat.org/title/moving/oclc/154144?referer=di&ht=edition\",\"citation\":\"Raworth, Tom. Moving. 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He has two tiny books that were published in London [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q84], we just wanted to tell you, and two and he has two long, long poems that are published by the Matrix Press, and a long poem, titled “The Boring Poems”, which he will read tonight. This will also be published in Copenhagen [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1748] with a French title. David Ball has spent the last ten years in Paris [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q90]. He has some other poem sequences which have been published along with Tom Raworth [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7817338] and others and he has worked with Tom Raworth on the translation of several of Rene Char's poems, one of which received an accolade from René Char [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q315015] himself. We give you David Ball.\\n\\nDavid Ball\\n00:01:40\\nReads unnamed poem [series].\\n\\nDavid Ball\\n00:11:34\\nFrom Anti-Tish happenings, “The Second”. \\n\\nDavid Ball\\n00:11:38\\nReads \\\"The Second\\\".\\n\\nDavid Ball\\n00:13:25\\nThat's the end of the New Zone poems\\n\\nDavid Ball\\n00:13:28\\nReads unnamed poem [series].\\n\\nUnknown\\n00:18:17\\nSilence [cut or edit in tape].\\n\\nIntroducer\\n00:18:26\\nTom Raworth is a central figure in the emergence of the British Avant-Garde, he is also well represented in most forward North American publications, he was the editor of the underground Goliard Press before it was taken up as the revolutionary branch of Johnathan Cape [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3277534] books, and his own publications include The Relation Ship, The Big Green Day and most recently, Lion, Lion , poetry that along with that of Anselm Hollo [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q252476], and Turnbull [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5516589] will define what happened in the British verse of the 60's. Cape Goliard has also published his Serial Biography which is a most exciting experiment on the British prose scene, and he is also one of the first poets to be heard on Steam Records, a series of LPs presenting leading American and British poets reading their works. This year, he is poet in residence at Essex [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1075104].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:19:40\\nThis is a poem called \\\"My Face is My Own, I Thought\\\".\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:19:44\\nReads \\\"My Face is My Own, I Thought\\\" [from The Relation Ship].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:20:19\\nThese are two poems about children, the first poem's called \\\"Three\\\".\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:20:26\\nReads \\\"Three\\\" [from The Relation Ship].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:20:51\\nReads \\\"Morning\\\" from The Relation Ship. \\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:21:17\\nReads \\\"The Third Retainer\\\" [from The Relation Ship]. \\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:21:54\\nReads \\\"September Morning\\\" [from The Relation Ship]. \\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:22:40\\nThis poem is called \\\"Shoes\\\".\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:22:51\\nReads \\\"Shoes\\\" [from The Big Green Day].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:23:35\\nThis is a poem in eight parts called \\\"Love Poem\\\".\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:23:43\\nReads \\\"Love Poem\\\" [from The Big Green Day].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:25:06\\nThis is a short poem called \\\"Georgia on My Mind\\\".\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:25:10\\nReads \\\"Georgia on My Mind\\\" [from The Big Green Day].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:25:32\\nThis is a poem called \\\"Got Me\\\" which is difficult to read because the last part of the poem is the first part of it, corrected.\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:25:43\\nReads \\\"Got Me\\\" [from The Big Green Day].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:26:17\\nThis poem is called \\\"Wham! The Race Begins\\\".\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:26:24\\nReads \\\"Wham! The Race Begins\\\" [from The Big Green Day].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:26:53\\nReads \\\"Hot Day at the Races\\\" [from The Big Green Day].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:27:50\\nI’ll just read a few poems from a book called Lion, Lion. The quote from the beginning is from an old poem from Gregory Corso [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q470871]., called “Dementia in an African Apartment House”. \\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:28:02\\nReads “Dementia in an African Apartment House” by Gregory Corso. \\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:28:10\\nThe first poem is called \\\"Lion, Lion\\\".\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:28:13\\nReads \\\"Lion, Lion\\\" from Lion, Lion. \\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:28:27\\nThis is a poem in four parts called \\\"Traveling\\\".\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:28:35\\nReads \\\"Traveling\\\" [from Lion, Lion].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:29:23\\nReads \\\"The Plaza in the Flaming Orange Trees\\\" [from Lion, Lion].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:30:08\\nThis poem is called \\\"Dear Sir, Flying Saucers, Flying Saucers, Flying Saucers\\\".\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:30:14\\nReads \\\"Dear Sir, Flying Saucers, Flying Saucers, Flying Saucers\\\" [from Lion, Lion].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:30:53\\nThis is called \\\"King of the Snow\\\".\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:30:58\\nReads \\\"King of the Snow\\\" [from Lion, Lion].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:31:39\\nReads \\\"South America\\\" [from Lion, Lion].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:33:00\\nThis is a poem called \\\"Claudette Colbert by Billy Wilder”, and all the lines are just by Billy Wilder [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q51547], they're from films that he made with Claudette Colbert https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q203819].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:33:15\\nReads \\\"Claudette Colbert by Billy Wilder” [from Lion, Lion].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:34:12\\nThe last poem in Lion, Lion is called \\\"Vensuramos\\\".\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:34:16\\nReads \\\"Vensuramos\\\" from Lion, Lion.\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:34:46\\nI'll just read a few poems from, that I've been working on recently, that's a sequence called “Into the Living Sea” from a poem by John Clare [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q981572] called \\\"I Am\\\", the middle stanza of which goes \\\"Into the nothingness of scorn and noise, into the living sea of waking dream, where there is neither sense of life, nor joys, but the huge shipwreck of my own esteem, and all that's dear, even those that I love the best are strange, nay, they are stranger than the rest\\\". The first poem is called \\\"The Moon Upon the Waters\\\". \\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:35:27\\nReads \\\"The Moon Upon the Waters\\\" [published later in Moving].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:36:35\\nReads \\\"Reverse Map\\\" [published later in Moving].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:37:21\\nReads \\\"Who Would True Valour See\\\" [published later in Moving].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:37:56\\nReads \\\"The Corpse in My Head\\\" [published later in Moving].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:38:33\\nThis is a poem called \\\"Helpston, £9,850 Stone Built Residence\\\".\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:38:42\\nReads \\\"Helpston, £9,850 Stone Built Residence\\\" [published later in Moving].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:39:26\\nThis is just a short poem called \\\"The Stroboscopic Forest Light Plays\\\" .\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:39:30\\nReads \\\"The Stroboscopic Forest Light Plays\\\" [published later in Moving].\\n\\nTom Raworth \\n00:39:40\\nI'll just read two more poems. This one's called \\\"Purely Personal\\\".\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:39:46\\nReads \\\"Purely Personal\\\" [published later in Moving].\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:40:19\\nThe last poem's called \\\"Notes of the Song / Ain't Gonna Stay in This Town Long\\\".\\n\\nTom Raworth\\n00:40:23\\nReads \\\"Notes of the Song / Ain't Gonna Stay in This Town Long\\\" [published later in Moving].\\n\\nEND\\n00:40:45\\n\",\"notes\":\"David Ball reads from unknown sources. 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And who has, as they say, paid his dues, and in that time, won all the prizes, like the President's Medal [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q39089691], and the Governor General's Award [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q283256], and countless numbers of Canada Council [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2993809] Grants and all those other things that come to you. [Laughter]. Currently, I don't know if whether or not I'm supposed to mention this or not, but currently making an excursion amongst the academics at...in other words, straightening people out at Simon Fraser University [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q201603]. And a very welcome addition to our series. Al Purdy. \n \nUnknown\n00:00:55\n[Cut or edit in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed]. \n \nAl Purdy\n00:00:56\nWhen I started to write poems about sixty-eight years ago, Bliss Carman [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3068116] was the only one writing. So I imitated Bliss Carman, and this first poem is a sort of imitation of Bliss Carman. [Audience laughter]. And there are hardly any new poems in there because it takes me two years to revise them for two years and then conclude them in a reading, and then besides which as George [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1239280] said, I've joined the academics because all the American members of the department at Simon Fraser have guilty consciences so they wanted a Canadian on staff [audience laughter].  \"About being a member of our armed forces\". This is, this is thirty years after I started to write poems. Remember--Oh, I should say, there are two, three phrases in this that would not ordinarily be understood by you people. \"Zombies,\" who were conscripts in the last war, and well, the CWACs were women members, Canadian Women's Army Corp [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5030688]. And during the early part of the last war, there were no rifles. So they used wooden rifles to drill with. \n \nAl Purdy\n00:02:09\nReads \"About Being a Member of Our Armed Forces\" [from Selected Poems; audience laughter throughout].\n \nAl Purdy\n00:03:29\nAs I said, I've become an academic lately, and one of the students in this class has asked for all my cigar tubes, little metal tubes that, you know, I get cigars in. He wants to put poems in them and float them down the North Saskatchewan River [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2237] [audience laughter]. And for some reason or other, this, that became the title of this particular poem. \"Floating Down the North Saskatchewan River\". [Audience laughter].\n \nAl Purdy\n00:04:01\nReads \"Floating Down the North Saskatchewan River\" [audience laughter throughout].\n \nAl Purdy\n00:04:40\nFunny, eh? [Audience laughter]. Something called \"Jubilate\", and I'm going to leave that out of there. \"Flight 17 Eastbound\". Ah...I keep revising some of these and I'm reading now from manuscript because I revised a lot of the poems here and I can't remember which ones I revised, so if they're in manuscript I'm sure they're either revised or that there's some reason for them being there. \n \nAl Purdy\n00:05:13\nReads \"Flight 17 Eastbound\".\n \nAl Purdy\n00:06:47\nI don't know what that means but it must be profound. [Audience laughter]. I'm getting together a collection of love poems, or I have gotten a collection of love poems together. They are, I am told, fairly hard-boiled love poems. Because when Jack McClelland [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6113965], of McClelland and Stewart [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6800322], heard about them they thought it was a good idea that Harold Town [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q827127] should do some illustrations. But when they saw the poems, and of course it wasn't because they were bad poems, I'm sure, he didn't want to do the illustrations anymore, they said they were hard-boiled. As I said, they can't be bad poems. This was one of them. It's got...no, I don't think I'll read that anyway. I don't like it. However, here's another one along the same lines. [Audience laughter]. It's called \"With Words, Words\".\n \nAl Purdy\n00:07:51\nReads \"With Words, Words\" [from Love in a burning building].\n \nAl Purdy\n00:10:49\nI lived in Vancouver [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q24639] for a while, and up till 1955 or 6. The first play I wrote for CBC [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q461761] was accepted, and I thought I was a genius, and moved to Montreal  [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q340] in order to reap the rewards of my genius. For a year in Montreal I think my...I sold a couple of adaptations to CBC. And eventually we moved to Roblin Lake [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q22447801], near Ameliasburgh [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4742321] in Ontario [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1904], and built a house. And my wife having quit her job, she having decided that if I could get away without working she could too. So we sat down for a couple of years looking at each other, waiting for the other one, to see which one would break first. But this is a poem about that particular time, called \"One Rural Winter\".\n \nAl Purdy\n00:11:50\nReads \"One Rural Winter\" [from Selected Poems; audience laughter throughout].\n \nAl Purdy\n00:15:22\nI was in the Arctic [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q25322] in '65, but this is a poem written long after that about the Arctic. And I suppose...certainly about the Canadian Arctic. I called it \"Arctic Romance\", but I think it should be just \"Arctic\", or something like that.\n \nAl Purdy\n00:15:46\nReads \"Arctic Romance\".\n \nAl Purdy\n00:17:13\nScrewed that up, I guess. You get tired of reading your own stuff, after a while. You forget what it sounded like the last time. This is a poem I kind of like but I keep revising it also, or have been several times in the last few years, called \"Dark Landscape\". It uses a couple of lines from an American poet who died thirty years ago called Vachel Lindsay [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1197667], whom probably nobody ever heard of. And it starts in a very prosy way, and is meant to sound that way, and then the rhythm quickens. \"Dark Landscape\".\n \nAl Purdy\n00:18:07\nReads \"Dark Landscape\".\n \nAl Purdy\n00:21:45\nIn case anybody is wondering about the particular Vachel Lindsay line, it was \"The spring comes on forever, and the Chinese nightingale\". And he also had \"Aladdin to the jinn\", except that Aladdin to the jinn, his jinn was J-I-N-N and mine was two J-I-N-N's, and one G-I-N. So that, always a little difficult to understand it without seeing it on the page. Kind of a sweet little poem, this was after we moved to Roblin Lake, and as I say, I sold a couple of plays and we bought a pile of used lumber with the proceeds and put the down payment on the lot and build this house. \n \nAl Purdy\n00:22:27\nReads \"Winter at Roblin Lake\" [from The Cariboo Horses].\n \nAl Purdy\n00:22:52\nAlso the same period, about building the house, or rather after the house was built. Trouble is, you can't, you can't smoke a cigar here, can you, something I...it always goes out. Anyway. \"Interruption\". \n \nAl Purdy\n00:23:13\nReads \"Interruption\" [from Selected Poems].\n \nAl Purdy\n00:24:49\nWhen I...when we first moved down to Ameliasburg, or to Roblin Lake, I should say, because Roblin Lake where we are is about a mile or so from Ameliasburg...I, after Montreal, and after the job I'd had in Vancouver, I suddenly had to become my own disciplinary straw boss, and it was quite difficult, and in other words, you know, I'd try to get up at a certain hour of the day and start writing. Which I could always, you know, I can always write prose, whenever I feel like it, but poems, I write them, well, I should say, I write poems whenever I feel like it, but you can, I can regimen my own prose, which I don't do much of these days. Anyway, when we moved to Roblin Lake, I wasn't physically regimented myself, so that I was waking up all hours of the day. And this is a short poem about that, but I also screwed up the poem, because I put lines at the end of, or words at the end of each line so that I don't know where the emphasis should be placed, even though I've read it dozens of times. It's called \"Late Rising at Roblin Lake\".\n \nAl Purdy\n00:25:57\nReads \"Late Rising at Roblin Lake\" [from The Cariboo Horses].\n \nAl Purdy\n00:26:47\nAnother poem about the same particular period, called \"Wilderness Gothic\". Uh...don't think there's a thing to say about this particular poem at all. \n \nAl Purdy\n00:27:03\nReads \"Wilderness Gothic\" [from Selected Poems].\n \nAl Purdy\n00:29:33\nWhen you read a bunch of poems over several years, I think you pick out the ones that you think will read the best, which is certainly what I do, because there are many of my own poems that I rarely read, or never read at all. In fact I, I never read this one. It's called \"Love Poem\".\n \nAl Purdy\n00:29:58\nReads \"Love Poem\" [from Poems for all the Annettes].\n \nAl Purdy\n00:31:40\nIn...This poem dates, the actual time of the poem dates about fifteen years ago. The poem itself was written about five years ago. At the time, a friend of mine was there also, which, other than his particular presence I might have acted a little bit differently than I did. You'll see what I mean in a, when I read the poem. Because nobody would take this chance in placing themselves in such a vulnerable position with a woman. \"Homemade Beer\".\n \nAl Purdy\n00:32:12\nReads \"Homemade Beer\" [from The Cariboo Horses].\n \nAudience\n00:33:48\nLaughter.\n \nUnknown\n00:33:51\n[Cut or edit in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\n \nAl Purdy\n00:33:52\nOne called \"The Drunk Tank\". It's...Dates back two or three years ago when, after the time when I was in the Air Force [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q25456], a friend of mine got out of the Air Force much later, so we celebrated. And...it was after quite a turbulent evening with my friend in Belleville [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q34227], Ontario, we decided to get a couple of bottles of liquor and go out to the country where we wouldn't be disturbed, and drink it. But the farmer phoned the cops, and we were both thrown in jail. And this particular poem is about the first part of that experience, I mean the early part of being thrown in jail, more or less. But not the end of it, it turned into a sort of fantasy that means something other than I intended. \n \nAl Purdy\n00:34:43\nReads \"The Drunk Tank\" [from The Poems of Al Purdy].\n \nAl Purdy\n00:36:51\nThis is called \"Poem for Rita\", and about a couple of years ago in Toronto [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q172], there was a couple of girls staying with myself, my wife and myself, and she kept asking me to write a poem. So after a while, I wrote this.\n \nAl Purdy\n00:37:10\nReads \"Poem for Rita\".\n \nAudience\n00:37:25\nLaughter.\n \nAl Purdy\n00:37:28\nThat's all. [Audience laughter]. I think it was actually kind of unkind on my part, because I was never sure whether she understood that or not, and I didn't know whether I wanted her to understand it. [Audience laughter]. There...when we first moved to Ameliasburg, as I mentioned, I was broke as hell. And after having lived in Vancouver, I learned how to make wine of one kind or another, and there was no way to, I didn't have enough money to make beer, so there were a lot of wild grapes around there and we made, I made wild grape wine, and one time, one particular season, I had about five hundred bottles. [Audience laughter]. I attribute the effects of this wine to having made me what I am today [audience laughter], if I could figure that out. But the poem eventually came out of it, called \"The Winemaker's Beatitude\".\n \nAl Purdy\n00:38:39\nReads \"The Winemaker's Beatitude\" [from Selected Poems].\n \nAl Purdy\n00:41:16\nIn '65, I went up to Baffin Island [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q81178] on some government money, public money, rode a commercial airline plane from Montreal to Frobisher Bay [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1004067], hitchhiked a ride on what I thought was a DOT plane, but was a construction plane, a construction company charter, and then at Pangnirtung [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q631747], which is on the Arctic Circle, the original administrator there arranged that I go along with an Eskimo family in their canoe to some islands in Cumberland Sound [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q938327]. A year and a half after I got back from the Arctic, I got a bill for a hundred and ten dollars from the construction company that I thought I'd, whose plane I thought I'd hitchhiked on. Which I haven't paid. But anyway, all of these poems, except perhaps I think one or two, were written up there, written in the Arctic, except that after I got back from the Arctic I kept revising them. So you can make up your own mind whether they're written there or not. Among the poems here, there's one called \"At the Movies\".\n \nAl Purdy\n00:42:37\nReads \"At the Movies\" [from North of Summer].\n\n Al Purdy\n00:44:55\nThe business about the caribou draining in the bilge water was one of the reasons, I suppose, I found it so extraordinary that, perhaps, that Eskimos should enjoy these shoot-em-up movies, was that they had just come a hundred miles or so after shooting caribou, bringing them back to Pang, Pangnirtung on the, on the Sound, on the...jeez, my memory's failing, I can't even remember the fjord it was. But anyway, they had just shot them and come a hundred miles back with them, and yet...and they were draining in their Peterhead boats, and yet they found these movies so exciting--I suppose I shouldn't find that so unusual, but I do. A crappy Hollywood [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q34006] movie. And here's one called \"The Sculptors\".\n \nAl Purdy\n00:45:50\nReads \"The Sculptors\" [from North of Summer].\n\nAl Purdy\n00:48:17\nI think I'm going to have about time for two more, so that I'd better...I could probably go on, oh I'd better make it three more  I'll give ya...this is, the trees in the Arctic are about, are very low, and well, this is treeless country on Baffin Island, where there, where practically nothing grows except moss and that, and the like of that, but I wrote a poem about trees at the Arctic Circle, and this is it....I see I'm getting, I'm only talking about the physical things about the Arctic, and I have some poems about the people, too, which, which I should read. Anyway, \"Trees at the Arctic Circle\".\n \nAl Purdy\n00:49:05\nReads \"Trees at the Arctic Circle\" [from North of Summer].\n \nAl Purdy\n00:51:07\nI want to read at least one about, about, about people there, because I used to, when I was on these islands, [inaudible] Islands in Cumberland Sound, the Eskimo women used to come over every day and drink tea. They could not speak any English and I could speak no Eskimo, and I would feed them tea and we would sit there, myself feeling about as silly as I could, so eventually I grew a bit desperate and I would read them poems and I would sing songs or I'd do any damn thing. However, eventually there was some kind of, I think, positive liking on my part. But this poem may express it as well as anything. \"Wash Day\".\n \nAl Purdy\n00:51:54\nReads \"Wash Day\" [from North of Summer].\n \nAl Purdy\n00:54:03\nTalking about shit, there's actually a poem that has a little bit to do with it here. The Arctic dogs have some qualities that are more pronounced and magnified in Arctic dogs than in southern dogs, that is, they like to eat the stuff. So that when you go, as all, everybody must go at some time or other in their lives, possibly once a day or not, one takes an Eskimo kid along to throw stones and keep the dogs off. When I came back from the Arctic I saw an hour-long film about the George River [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q966023] Eskimos, and one scene in it showed about fifty Eskimos trying to get into a tent, and the Eskimos beating them into the tent, and the next thing you showed the same dogs trying to get out of the tent and the Eskimos beating them out of the tent. And the announcer said not one single word. And then I remembered that whenever the Eskimos leave a campsite, they use it for a privy, and then send the dogs in to clean up. So, actually, this is a poem about that.  \"When I Sat Down to Play the Piano\". [Audience laughter].\n \nAl Purdy\n00:55:10\nReads \"When I Sat Down to Play the Piano\" [from North of Summer; audience laughter throughout].\n\nAl Purdy\n00:58:23\nI've got one more poem if my voice can hold out. When Robert Kennedy  [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q25310] was shot...I always think about anything that I'm interested and emotionally moved by, always, at least I have in the past, till I got to Simon Fraser, think about writing a poem about it. So the same thing was happening after Kennedy was shot and died, and I was thinking about writing a poem about it, and then the Star Weekly [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17112122] phoned up and asked me to write a poem about it. So this poem eventually got written. \"A Lament for Robert Kennedy\".\n \nAl Purdy\n00:59:06\nReads \"A Lament for Robert Kennedy\".\n\nAudience\n01:04:39\nApplause.\n \nEND\n01:04:55\n"],"Note":["[{\"note\":\"Original transcript and print catalogue by Rachel Kyne\\n\\nOriginal print catalogue, introduction, research and edits by Celyn Harding-Jones\\n\\nAdditional research and edits by Ali Barillaro\\n\",\"type\":\"Cataloguer\"},{\"note\":\"Year-Specific Information:\\n\\nIn 1970, Al Purdy published Love in a Burning Building (McClelland and Stewart). George Bowering’s study on Al Purdy came out that year, Al Purdy (Copp Clarke Co).\",\"type\":\"General\"},{\"note\":\"Local Connections:\\n\\nAl Purdy became an important figure in Canadian poetry, and was known as a “people’s poet”. He published over thirty books of poetry, but also published in dozens of other genres. Purdy was known as a generous mentor, and his work received several Governor General's Awards as well as other high Canadian honours. He lived in Vancouver, Montreal, and several locations in Ontario, and his poetry reflected Canadian landscape themes. Over the years he has been called the ‘most’ Canadian poet, the ‘first’ Canadian poet and the ‘last’ Canadian poet. In 1963, George Bowering convinced the University of British Columbia to invite Al Purdy to give a reading, where the two poets first met. Later on, Purdy was in contact with George Bowering, as he was completing a book about Purdy.\",\"type\":\"General\"},{\"note\":\"Reel-to-reel tape>CD>digital file\",\"type\":\"Preservation\"}]"],"Related_works":["[{\"url\":\"https://www.cbc.ca/archives/topic/al-purdy-an-uncommon-poet\",\"citation\":\"“Al Purdy, An Uncommon Poet”. CBC Digital Archives. 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And who has, as they say, paid his dues, and in that time, won all the prizes, like the President's Medal [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q39089691], and the Governor General's Award [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q283256], and countless numbers of Canada Council [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2993809] Grants and all those other things that come to you. [Laughter]. Currently, I don't know if whether or not I'm supposed to mention this or not, but currently making an excursion amongst the academics at...in other words, straightening people out at Simon Fraser University [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q201603]. And a very welcome addition to our series. Al Purdy. \\n \\nUnknown\\n00:00:55\\n[Cut or edit in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed]. \\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:00:56\\nWhen I started to write poems about sixty-eight years ago, Bliss Carman [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3068116] was the only one writing. So I imitated Bliss Carman, and this first poem is a sort of imitation of Bliss Carman. [Audience laughter]. And there are hardly any new poems in there because it takes me two years to revise them for two years and then conclude them in a reading, and then besides which as George [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1239280] said, I've joined the academics because all the American members of the department at Simon Fraser have guilty consciences so they wanted a Canadian on staff [audience laughter].  \\\"About being a member of our armed forces\\\". This is, this is thirty years after I started to write poems. Remember--Oh, I should say, there are two, three phrases in this that would not ordinarily be understood by you people. \\\"Zombies,\\\" who were conscripts in the last war, and well, the CWACs were women members, Canadian Women's Army Corp [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5030688]. And during the early part of the last war, there were no rifles. So they used wooden rifles to drill with. \\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:02:09\\nReads \\\"About Being a Member of Our Armed Forces\\\" [from Selected Poems; audience laughter throughout].\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:03:29\\nAs I said, I've become an academic lately, and one of the students in this class has asked for all my cigar tubes, little metal tubes that, you know, I get cigars in. He wants to put poems in them and float them down the North Saskatchewan River [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2237] [audience laughter]. And for some reason or other, this, that became the title of this particular poem. \\\"Floating Down the North Saskatchewan River\\\". [Audience laughter].\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:04:01\\nReads \\\"Floating Down the North Saskatchewan River\\\" [audience laughter throughout].\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:04:40\\nFunny, eh? [Audience laughter]. Something called \\\"Jubilate\\\", and I'm going to leave that out of there. \\\"Flight 17 Eastbound\\\". Ah...I keep revising some of these and I'm reading now from manuscript because I revised a lot of the poems here and I can't remember which ones I revised, so if they're in manuscript I'm sure they're either revised or that there's some reason for them being there. \\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:05:13\\nReads \\\"Flight 17 Eastbound\\\".\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:06:47\\nI don't know what that means but it must be profound. [Audience laughter]. I'm getting together a collection of love poems, or I have gotten a collection of love poems together. They are, I am told, fairly hard-boiled love poems. Because when Jack McClelland [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6113965], of McClelland and Stewart [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6800322], heard about them they thought it was a good idea that Harold Town [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q827127] should do some illustrations. But when they saw the poems, and of course it wasn't because they were bad poems, I'm sure, he didn't want to do the illustrations anymore, they said they were hard-boiled. As I said, they can't be bad poems. This was one of them. It's got...no, I don't think I'll read that anyway. I don't like it. However, here's another one along the same lines. [Audience laughter]. It's called \\\"With Words, Words\\\".\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:07:51\\nReads \\\"With Words, Words\\\" [from Love in a burning building].\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:10:49\\nI lived in Vancouver [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q24639] for a while, and up till 1955 or 6. The first play I wrote for CBC [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q461761] was accepted, and I thought I was a genius, and moved to Montreal  [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q340] in order to reap the rewards of my genius. For a year in Montreal I think my...I sold a couple of adaptations to CBC. And eventually we moved to Roblin Lake [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q22447801], near Ameliasburgh [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4742321] in Ontario [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1904], and built a house. And my wife having quit her job, she having decided that if I could get away without working she could too. So we sat down for a couple of years looking at each other, waiting for the other one, to see which one would break first. But this is a poem about that particular time, called \\\"One Rural Winter\\\".\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:11:50\\nReads \\\"One Rural Winter\\\" [from Selected Poems; audience laughter throughout].\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:15:22\\nI was in the Arctic [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q25322] in '65, but this is a poem written long after that about the Arctic. And I suppose...certainly about the Canadian Arctic. I called it \\\"Arctic Romance\\\", but I think it should be just \\\"Arctic\\\", or something like that.\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:15:46\\nReads \\\"Arctic Romance\\\".\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:17:13\\nScrewed that up, I guess. You get tired of reading your own stuff, after a while. You forget what it sounded like the last time. This is a poem I kind of like but I keep revising it also, or have been several times in the last few years, called \\\"Dark Landscape\\\". It uses a couple of lines from an American poet who died thirty years ago called Vachel Lindsay [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1197667], whom probably nobody ever heard of. And it starts in a very prosy way, and is meant to sound that way, and then the rhythm quickens. \\\"Dark Landscape\\\".\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:18:07\\nReads \\\"Dark Landscape\\\".\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:21:45\\nIn case anybody is wondering about the particular Vachel Lindsay line, it was \\\"The spring comes on forever, and the Chinese nightingale\\\". And he also had \\\"Aladdin to the jinn\\\", except that Aladdin to the jinn, his jinn was J-I-N-N and mine was two J-I-N-N's, and one G-I-N. So that, always a little difficult to understand it without seeing it on the page. Kind of a sweet little poem, this was after we moved to Roblin Lake, and as I say, I sold a couple of plays and we bought a pile of used lumber with the proceeds and put the down payment on the lot and build this house. \\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:22:27\\nReads \\\"Winter at Roblin Lake\\\" [from The Cariboo Horses].\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:22:52\\nAlso the same period, about building the house, or rather after the house was built. Trouble is, you can't, you can't smoke a cigar here, can you, something I...it always goes out. Anyway. \\\"Interruption\\\". \\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:23:13\\nReads \\\"Interruption\\\" [from Selected Poems].\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:24:49\\nWhen I...when we first moved down to Ameliasburg, or to Roblin Lake, I should say, because Roblin Lake where we are is about a mile or so from Ameliasburg...I, after Montreal, and after the job I'd had in Vancouver, I suddenly had to become my own disciplinary straw boss, and it was quite difficult, and in other words, you know, I'd try to get up at a certain hour of the day and start writing. Which I could always, you know, I can always write prose, whenever I feel like it, but poems, I write them, well, I should say, I write poems whenever I feel like it, but you can, I can regimen my own prose, which I don't do much of these days. Anyway, when we moved to Roblin Lake, I wasn't physically regimented myself, so that I was waking up all hours of the day. And this is a short poem about that, but I also screwed up the poem, because I put lines at the end of, or words at the end of each line so that I don't know where the emphasis should be placed, even though I've read it dozens of times. It's called \\\"Late Rising at Roblin Lake\\\".\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:25:57\\nReads \\\"Late Rising at Roblin Lake\\\" [from The Cariboo Horses].\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:26:47\\nAnother poem about the same particular period, called \\\"Wilderness Gothic\\\". Uh...don't think there's a thing to say about this particular poem at all. \\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:27:03\\nReads \\\"Wilderness Gothic\\\" [from Selected Poems].\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:29:33\\nWhen you read a bunch of poems over several years, I think you pick out the ones that you think will read the best, which is certainly what I do, because there are many of my own poems that I rarely read, or never read at all. In fact I, I never read this one. It's called \\\"Love Poem\\\".\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:29:58\\nReads \\\"Love Poem\\\" [from Poems for all the Annettes].\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:31:40\\nIn...This poem dates, the actual time of the poem dates about fifteen years ago. The poem itself was written about five years ago. At the time, a friend of mine was there also, which, other than his particular presence I might have acted a little bit differently than I did. You'll see what I mean in a, when I read the poem. Because nobody would take this chance in placing themselves in such a vulnerable position with a woman. \\\"Homemade Beer\\\".\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:32:12\\nReads \\\"Homemade Beer\\\" [from The Cariboo Horses].\\n \\nAudience\\n00:33:48\\nLaughter.\\n \\nUnknown\\n00:33:51\\n[Cut or edit in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:33:52\\nOne called \\\"The Drunk Tank\\\". It's...Dates back two or three years ago when, after the time when I was in the Air Force [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q25456], a friend of mine got out of the Air Force much later, so we celebrated. And...it was after quite a turbulent evening with my friend in Belleville [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q34227], Ontario, we decided to get a couple of bottles of liquor and go out to the country where we wouldn't be disturbed, and drink it. But the farmer phoned the cops, and we were both thrown in jail. And this particular poem is about the first part of that experience, I mean the early part of being thrown in jail, more or less. But not the end of it, it turned into a sort of fantasy that means something other than I intended. \\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:34:43\\nReads \\\"The Drunk Tank\\\" [from The Poems of Al Purdy].\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:36:51\\nThis is called \\\"Poem for Rita\\\", and about a couple of years ago in Toronto [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q172], there was a couple of girls staying with myself, my wife and myself, and she kept asking me to write a poem. So after a while, I wrote this.\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:37:10\\nReads \\\"Poem for Rita\\\".\\n \\nAudience\\n00:37:25\\nLaughter.\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:37:28\\nThat's all. [Audience laughter]. I think it was actually kind of unkind on my part, because I was never sure whether she understood that or not, and I didn't know whether I wanted her to understand it. [Audience laughter]. There...when we first moved to Ameliasburg, as I mentioned, I was broke as hell. And after having lived in Vancouver, I learned how to make wine of one kind or another, and there was no way to, I didn't have enough money to make beer, so there were a lot of wild grapes around there and we made, I made wild grape wine, and one time, one particular season, I had about five hundred bottles. [Audience laughter]. I attribute the effects of this wine to having made me what I am today [audience laughter], if I could figure that out. But the poem eventually came out of it, called \\\"The Winemaker's Beatitude\\\".\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:38:39\\nReads \\\"The Winemaker's Beatitude\\\" [from Selected Poems].\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:41:16\\nIn '65, I went up to Baffin Island [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q81178] on some government money, public money, rode a commercial airline plane from Montreal to Frobisher Bay [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1004067], hitchhiked a ride on what I thought was a DOT plane, but was a construction plane, a construction company charter, and then at Pangnirtung [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q631747], which is on the Arctic Circle, the original administrator there arranged that I go along with an Eskimo family in their canoe to some islands in Cumberland Sound [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q938327]. A year and a half after I got back from the Arctic, I got a bill for a hundred and ten dollars from the construction company that I thought I'd, whose plane I thought I'd hitchhiked on. Which I haven't paid. But anyway, all of these poems, except perhaps I think one or two, were written up there, written in the Arctic, except that after I got back from the Arctic I kept revising them. So you can make up your own mind whether they're written there or not. Among the poems here, there's one called \\\"At the Movies\\\".\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:42:37\\nReads \\\"At the Movies\\\" [from North of Summer].\\n\\n Al Purdy\\n00:44:55\\nThe business about the caribou draining in the bilge water was one of the reasons, I suppose, I found it so extraordinary that, perhaps, that Eskimos should enjoy these shoot-em-up movies, was that they had just come a hundred miles or so after shooting caribou, bringing them back to Pang, Pangnirtung on the, on the Sound, on the...jeez, my memory's failing, I can't even remember the fjord it was. But anyway, they had just shot them and come a hundred miles back with them, and yet...and they were draining in their Peterhead boats, and yet they found these movies so exciting--I suppose I shouldn't find that so unusual, but I do. A crappy Hollywood [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q34006] movie. And here's one called \\\"The Sculptors\\\".\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:45:50\\nReads \\\"The Sculptors\\\" [from North of Summer].\\n\\nAl Purdy\\n00:48:17\\nI think I'm going to have about time for two more, so that I'd better...I could probably go on, oh I'd better make it three more  I'll give ya...this is, the trees in the Arctic are about, are very low, and well, this is treeless country on Baffin Island, where there, where practically nothing grows except moss and that, and the like of that, but I wrote a poem about trees at the Arctic Circle, and this is it....I see I'm getting, I'm only talking about the physical things about the Arctic, and I have some poems about the people, too, which, which I should read. Anyway, \\\"Trees at the Arctic Circle\\\".\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:49:05\\nReads \\\"Trees at the Arctic Circle\\\" [from North of Summer].\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:51:07\\nI want to read at least one about, about, about people there, because I used to, when I was on these islands, [inaudible] Islands in Cumberland Sound, the Eskimo women used to come over every day and drink tea. They could not speak any English and I could speak no Eskimo, and I would feed them tea and we would sit there, myself feeling about as silly as I could, so eventually I grew a bit desperate and I would read them poems and I would sing songs or I'd do any damn thing. However, eventually there was some kind of, I think, positive liking on my part. But this poem may express it as well as anything. \\\"Wash Day\\\".\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:51:54\\nReads \\\"Wash Day\\\" [from North of Summer].\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:54:03\\nTalking about shit, there's actually a poem that has a little bit to do with it here. The Arctic dogs have some qualities that are more pronounced and magnified in Arctic dogs than in southern dogs, that is, they like to eat the stuff. So that when you go, as all, everybody must go at some time or other in their lives, possibly once a day or not, one takes an Eskimo kid along to throw stones and keep the dogs off. When I came back from the Arctic I saw an hour-long film about the George River [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q966023] Eskimos, and one scene in it showed about fifty Eskimos trying to get into a tent, and the Eskimos beating them into the tent, and the next thing you showed the same dogs trying to get out of the tent and the Eskimos beating them out of the tent. And the announcer said not one single word. And then I remembered that whenever the Eskimos leave a campsite, they use it for a privy, and then send the dogs in to clean up. So, actually, this is a poem about that.  \\\"When I Sat Down to Play the Piano\\\". [Audience laughter].\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:55:10\\nReads \\\"When I Sat Down to Play the Piano\\\" [from North of Summer; audience laughter throughout].\\n\\nAl Purdy\\n00:58:23\\nI've got one more poem if my voice can hold out. When Robert Kennedy  [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q25310] was shot...I always think about anything that I'm interested and emotionally moved by, always, at least I have in the past, till I got to Simon Fraser, think about writing a poem about it. So the same thing was happening after Kennedy was shot and died, and I was thinking about writing a poem about it, and then the Star Weekly [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17112122] phoned up and asked me to write a poem about it. So this poem eventually got written. \\\"A Lament for Robert Kennedy\\\".\\n \\nAl Purdy\\n00:59:06\\nReads \\\"A Lament for Robert Kennedy\\\".\\n\\nAudience\\n01:04:39\\nApplause.\\n \\nEND\\n01:04:55\\n\",\"notes\":\"Al Purdy reads from a wide variety of his books, including Selected Poems (McClelland and Stewart, 1972), Love in a Burning Building (McClelland and Stewart, 1970), The Cariboo Horses (McClelland and Stewart, 1965), Poems for all the Annettes (Contact Press, 1962), and North of Summer (McClelland and Stewart, 1967).\\n\\n00:00- George Bowering introduces Al Purdy. [INDEX: Doug Featherling describes Purdy as“the most Canadian of all possible poets”, won the President’s Medal, Governor General’s award, Canada Council Grants, Simon Fraser University]\\n00:56- Al Purdy introduces the reading, and “About Being a Member of Our Armed Forces”. [INDEX: Bliss Carman as influence, Simon Fraser University, joining ‘academia’, conscripts in the war, CWAC: women members of the Canadian Women’s Army Corps, wooden drill rifles; from Selected Poems (McClelland and Stewart, 1972)].\\n02:09- Reads “About Being a Member of Our Armed Forces”.\\n03:29- Introduces “Floating Down the North Saskatchewan River”. [INDEX: student in his class, student’s poems in Purdy’s cigar tubes floating down the North Saskatchewan\\nRiver; read from unknown source].\\n04:01- Reads “Floating Down the North Saskatchewan River”.\\n04:40- Introduces “Flight 17 Eastbound”. [INDEX: revising his manuscript; from unknown source, could be known as “Jubilate on Flight 17, Eastbound”].\\n05:13- Reads “Flight 17 Eastbound”.\\n06:47- Introduces “With Words, Words”. [INDEX: collection of love poems, Jack McClelland and Stewart, Harold Town (illustrator); from Love in a burning building (McClelland and Stewart, 1970)].\\n07:51- Reads “With Words, Words”.\\n10:49- Introduces “One Rural Winter”. [INDEX: Vancouver, 1955-6, play for CBC accepted, moved to Montreal, Roblin Lake near Ameliasburg in Ontario, built house, *note that explanation is almost word-for-word identical as his explanation for the same poem, in the reading at the Vancouver Art Gallery (I086-11-042)*; from Selected Poems (1972)].\\n11:50- Reads “One Rural Winter”.\\n15:22- Introduces “Arctic Romance”. [INDEX: Arctic trip in 1965, naming of the poem; from unknown source; Howard Fink List “Arctic”].\\n15:46- Reads “Arctic Romance”.\\n17:13- Introduces “Dark Landscape”. [INDEX: reading, revising, lines from American pet\\nVachel Lindsay; from unknown source].\\n18:07- Reads “Dark Landscape”.\\n21:45- Explains Vachel Lindsay line, Introduces “Winter at Roblin Lake”. [INDEX: Vachel\\nLindsay line “The spring comes on forever, and the Chinese nightingale”, “Aladdin to the\\njinn”, changes Purdy made to the poem, Roblin lake, sold plays, building house of used\\nlumber; from The Cariboo Horses (McClelland and Stewart, 1965)].\\n22:27- Reads “Winter at Roblin Lake”.\\n22:52- Introduces “Interruption”. [INDEX: building house, smoking a cigar; from Selected\\nPoems (1972); not in Howard Fink List of poems].\\n23:13- Reads “Interruption”.\\n24:49- Introduces “Late Rising at Roblin Lake”. [INDEX: Ameliasburg, Montreal, Vancouver, discipline of writing, writing prose vs. writing poetry, process of reading many times; from The Cariboo Horses (1965)]\\n25:57- Reads “Late Rising at Roblin Lake”.\\n26:47- Introduces “Wilderness Gothic”. [INDEX: from Selected Poems (1972); Howard Fink List “One Ernest Gothic”].\\n27:03- Reads “Wilderness Gothic”.\\n29:33- Introduces “Love Poem”. [INDEX: preparing poems to be read, poems Purdy’s never read; from Poems for all the Annettes (Contact Press, 1962)].\\n29:58- Reads “Love Poem”.\\n31:40- Introduces “Homemade Beer”. [INDEX: poem dates five years prior; from The Cariboo Horses (1965)].\\n32:12- Reads “Homemade Beer”.\\n33:52- Introduces “The Drunk Tank”. [INDEX: Air Force, Belleville, Ontario, drinking with\\nfriend, cops called, thrown in jail, ending meaning something other than what was\\nintended; from The Poems of Al Purdy (McClelland and Stewart, 1976)].\\n34:43- Reads “The Drunk Tank”.\\n36:51- Introduces “Poem for Rita”. [INDEX: Toronto, girls staying with Purdy and his wife, girl asked him to write a poem; from unknown source, Howard Fink List “Poem for\\nEda”].\\n37:10- Reads “Poem for Rita”.\\n37:25- Introduces “The Winemaker’s Beat Etude”, and explains more about “Poem for Rita”. [INDEX: Ameliasburg, Vancouver, making homemade wine; from Selected Poems\\n(1972)].\\n38:39- Reads “The Winemaker’s Beat Etude”.\\n41:16- Introduces “At the Movies”. [INDEX: 1965, trip to Baffin Island on government money, plane from Montreal to Frobisher Bay, hitchhiked on DOT plane, construction company charter, Pangnirtung on Arctic Circle, “Eskimo” family’s canoe, bill for plane, Arctic poems; from North of Summer (McClelland and Stewart, 1967)].\\n42:36- Reads “At the Movies”.\\n44:55- Introduces “The Sculptors”. [INDEX: caribou draining, “Eskimos” shooting caribou then watching movies, Pangnirtung Sound, Peterhead boats, Hollywood movie; from North of Summer]\\n45:50- Reads “The Sculptors”.\\n48:17- Introduces “Trees at the Arctic Circle”. [INDEX: Trees on Baffin Island; from North of Summer].\\n49:05- Reads “Trees at the Arctic Circle”.\\n51:07- Introduces “Wash Day”. [INDEX: Cumberland Sound, Eskimo women, language\\nbarriers, tea, sing songs; from North of Summer].\\n51:54- Reads “Wash Day”.\\n54:03- Introduces “When I Sat Down to Play the Piano”. [INDEX: Arctic dogs, film about the George River Eskimos; from North of Summer].\\n55:10- Reads “When I Sat Down to Play the Piano”.\\n58:23- Introduces unknown poem “A Lament for Robert Kennedy”, perhaps actually “Death of John F. Kennedy”. [INDEX: Shooting of Robert Kennedy (John F?), Simon Fraser, writing poem about shooting, Star Weekly asked Purdy for a poem about it].\\n59:06- Reads “A Lament for Robert Kennedy”. 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There, he was influenced by Charles Olson and colleagues such as Robert Creeley, Ed Dorn, Jonathan Williams and Fielding Dawson, forming the Black Mountain Poets. Visiting writer William Carlos Williams and e.e. cummings also greatly influenced Oppenheimer. Joel published The Dancer in 1951 (Sad Devil Press at Black Mountain College), The Dutiful Son in 1956 (Short Hills, Johnathan Cape), The Love Bit in 1962 (Totem Press) and Sirventes on a Sad Occasion in 1967 (The Perishable Press) while working in a printing shop. In 1966 he became the director of the Poetry Project at St Mark’s Church in-the-Bowery, a New York City reading series and by 1969, Oppenheimer became a columnist for the Village Voice. He then published In Time: Poems 1962-1968 (Bobbs-Merrill, 1969), and in 1973 published On Occasion: Some Births, Deaths, Weddings, Birthdays, Holidays, and Other Events, a book of occasional poems (Bobbs-Merrill). The Woman Poems (Bobbs-Merrill) was published in 1975, and Names, Dates & Places (Saint Andrew’s Press, 1973) chronicled the New York Mets. He also wrote a popular book about Marilyn Monroe, called Marilyn Lives! (Delilah, 1981). In 1984 Oppenheimer taught creative writing at New England College in Henniker, New Hampshire. His last published book of poetry was New Spaces: Poems 1975-1983 (Black Sparrow Press, 1985). 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Date also specified in previous written announcement \\\"Poetry Four: Sir George Williams Poetry Series\\\"\",\"source\":\"Accompanying Material\"}]"],"Location":["[{\"url\":\"https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/22080570\",\"venue\":\"Hall Building Room H-651\",\"notes\":\"Location specified in previous written announcement \\\"Poetry Four: Sir George Williams Poetry Series,\\\" but not confirmed\",\"address\":\"1455, Boul de Maisonneuve Ouest, Montreal, Quebec, Canada\",\"latitude\":\"45.4972758\",\"longitude\":\"-73.57893043\"}]"],"Address":["1455, Boul de Maisonneuve Ouest, Montreal, Quebec, Canada"],"Venue":["Hall Building Room H-651"],"City":["Montreal, Quebec"],"content_notes":["Joel Oppeheimer reads from In Time: Poems 1962-1968 (Bobbs-Merrill,1969) as well as poems from Just Friends/Friends and Lovers (Jargon Society) which was only published in 1980."],"contents":["joel_oppenheimer_i006-11-012.mp3\n\nGeorge Bowering\n00:00:00\nI suppose everybody knows everything that everybody would say in an introduction to Joel Oppenheimer [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6213806] anyway, the Black Mountain [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2413277] blah blah blah, and the director of the St. Mark's Poetry Project [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7207506] blah blah blah but what I would like to mention specifically is that there's a big fat book called In Time with about 225 pages of Joel's poetry from the 1960's published by Bobbs-Merrill [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4934692] distributed by McClelland & Stewart [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6800322] in Canada [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16] if they ever get into bookstores in Montreal [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q340]. Joel Oppenheimer, thank you.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:00:44\nI really didn't like, George [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1239280], being referred to as being a Black Mountain blah blah blah. I happen to be the finest softball pitcher Black Mountain ever had. And so that none of you lose any sleep tonight, the uniform is genuine United States [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30] Merchant Marine [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q865132] uniform and the fifth stripe, the purple stripe denotes me as a chief poet, which I was appointed by three captains, two chief engineers and several assorted mates of United States lines and we invented the uniform one night and they threw in all the materials and my wife gave it to me for a Christmas present, so I am responsible for the moral, religious, emotional and sexual life of the crew while at sea. It's a very serious duty! The book that's out now is actually my fourth book of poems, the first to some of you may be familiar with some of the poems from The New American Poetry [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7753501]and so on, The Dutiful Son and The Love Bit. And In Time is the fourth book. The third book is a little known book because Jonathan Williams [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6274797] has been carrying it around in his briefcase for eight years and sends me postcards every six month saying he's bringing it out. I thought maybe since it probably will never get published I should read some poems from there, it's called Friends and Lovers and most of the poems have initialed inscriptions, some of which I will name to you, and some of which somebody going for his Master's thirty years from now will have to do a lot of research to figure out. It's divided into two parts, obviously in the first part is friends and in the second part is lovers. This is the dedicatory poem. \"Orpheus\" [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q174353].\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:02:52\nReads \"Orpheus\" [published later in Just Friends/Friends and Lovers].\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:03:20\nThis is a poem called \"Lesson I\" and it's for Charles Olson [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q922978]. It's also as sure you all recognize upon a parody on one of Pound's [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q163366] Usury Cantos [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2701465] and it's based on an actual softball incident in which Charles was supposed to be coaching third base and instead was discussing Etruscan sculpture when I was rounding second on a long drive to left centre field.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:03:54\nReads \"Lesson I\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:04:30\nCharles got very upset about that. This is a poem for Franz Kline [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q374492]. Do I need to tell you who Franz was? Alright, if anybody doesn't know should ask the person next to them after the reading…”Pablo Nerruda--” It’s called “The Boys Whose Fathers\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:04:57\nReads \"The Boys Whose Fathers\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:08:31\nAnd this is for Cubby Selby [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q551487] who wrote Last Exit to Brooklyn [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1400274]. “A Poem In Tune With Its Time”.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:08:39\nReads “A Poem In Tune With Its Time”.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:09:13\nThis is for Phillip Guston [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q701952]. That's very strange, I find that now I can say the names. Philip is a still surviving member of the New York [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q60] Abstract Expressionist school, or whatever they call it these days. And a marvelous painter.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:09:30\nReads \"A Grace for Painters\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:11:21\nThis is another poem for Charles Olson. It's called \"Okay\". This is a funny book because it was written about 1961, as I say literally, it's been carried around in manuscript form for eight years and why I never pulled it back except that those damn postcards kept coming in so I kept saying, okay, six months more and it just was a scene I got into where I, personal poems to people became a thing that I was doing at that time. It's called \"Okay\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:12:10\nReads \"Okay\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:13:54\nThank you. I don't know how many of you knew Charles, that was a visit to New York and we did have a marvelous meal in New York's Chinatown [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q866332] and I just said to the guy, you know, bring us so many dollars worth of food, and there were eleven of us, Ed Dorn [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5334756] and his wife were with us and LeRoi Jones [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q354783] and his wife and Charles, and we sat there and they kept bringing dishes out everybody stuffed themselves and we were all sitting there and Charles, as most of you know was about 6'7” and about 250 pounds and after all this food had come out and been consumed, the guy came out with a sea bass about this big, and everybody sorta looked and Charles said, \"Oh, thank you Joel\" and proceeded to demolish this thing. Well, everybody just sitting...[audience laughter]. Ah, yes! I have a Canadian poem for you. I didn't even know that. This is a poem for Ed Dorn and it's called \"The Fourth Ark Royal\". One night at a bar called Dylan's, Ed and I had seen each other for the first time for about six years and a couple of sailors came in and they had Ark Royal on their caps and Canadian badges and finally after a couple of drinks I asked one of them what the Ark Royal was, and to their shame and my chagrin, and they really were abashed when they said it, it turns out now that the Ark Royal is now a Corvette, uh, after a long distinguished history and not that--I'm sure that it's a great Corvette, but still, a Corvette is a Corvette, you know.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:16:03\nReads \"The Fourth Ark Royal\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:20:03\nDoes anybody know where the Fourth Ark Royal is anchored? I'll go see it tomorrow. I have to make a confession, I pulled a dreadful gaff yesterday and I'm sure that Stan and George are going to spread it around after I leave, so I'm going to confess it in public. I said \"Gee, we're going to be here for a couple of days and there's one thing I'd really like to see. And do you suppose somebody might, you know, give us a lift to the Plains of Abraham [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2726825]\", and they both looked at me and said \"It's 100 miles away in Quebec [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q176]\" and I said \"Oh my god, you're right\" and then I got home, to the hotel, and I was reading through, what's the name of that lovely magazine they give you at the hotel? Canada Today or something, and I was reading through, and when I saw them today, I said \"Oh well, I was wrong about the Plains of Abraham, but we guys captured Montreal once\" and it made me feel much better. Of course, we didn't hold it very long, I think a day we were here. This is a thing called \"Spring Poem\". And let's hope that it gets here.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:21:24\nReads \"Spring Poem\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:21:39\nAhah! Yes, gee, I don't know if you're liking these, but I'm so delighted, I really haven't looked at these poems in moons, and it's...this is a poem for Gil Sorrentino [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q326773] called \"The Aces\", and it starts with a quote from Antony and Cleopatra [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q606830]. And it's when, it's the speech that's always quoted where the death is announced to her, and everybody always quotes the crown he bestride the continents like [unintelligible] and crowns--the crown would drop from his pocket, but I always love the end of it, near the end, she says \"His delights were dolphin-like, they showed his back above the element they lived in\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:22:28\nReads \"The Aces\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:23:36\nFor J.C. Just to add a little mystery.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:23:56\nReads unnamed poem \"There are waterfalls pour straight down\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:24:48\n\"La Revolución\", for J.S.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:24:51\nReads \"La Revolución\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:25:55\nI think what I'll do is read one--this is kind of a long poem, are you up to a longish poem and then we'll call a break? \"A Little Mayan Head\", for E.W.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:26:23\nReads \"A Little Mayan Head\".\n\nUnknown\n00:30:22\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:30:23\nIt's titled \"N.B.\", but that isn't for a lady, that's Nota Bene, if I am correcting--if I am pronouncing that correctly, or correcting that pronouncedly.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:30:34\nReads \"N.B.\"\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:31:10\n\"Poem for New Children\", for E. and L.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:31:14\nReads \"Poem for New Children\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:31:35\n\"Peire Vidal at Thirty-Two\" and any of you who don't know Peire Vidal [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5269] are instructed to report to George Bowering on Monday morning and he will give you a lecture on Peire Vidal. And George, if you don't have a lecture prepared, you better by then. Peire Vidal was the most marvelous poet in the world, his vida begins, Peire Vidal was the son of a rich fourrier in Toulouse [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7880], he sang better than any man in the world and he wrote good songs and he was the biggest fool the world has ever known because he believed that what a woman told him in love was true. He also [audience laughter] wrote a poem, this will get an even bigger hit when he was an old man he wrote a gorgeous poem that I can't quote, and you can thank me for that, he wrote a gorgeous poem in which in the first stanza, he avowed his eternal love to four different chicks [audience laughter]. \n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:32:4\nReads \"Peire Vidal at Thirty-Two\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:33:16\n\"The Truck Farmer\", for R. F.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:33:25\nReads \"The Truck Farmer\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:35:01\n\"Dutch Interior: Sewing\", also for R.F. R.F. was my first wife.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:35:07\nReads \"Dutch Interior: Sewing\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:35:36\n\"Clams on the Half-Shelf\" for M.M. And I must say I've been very disappointed, because everybody kept telling me what great seafood restaurants Montreal has and the only seafood I can really stand is fresh clams and every restaurant I go into says, \"Oh, yeah, we have oysters but we don't serve clams\". Does anyone know a restaurant where I can get fresh clams?...This is for M.M.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:36:09\nReads \"Clams on the Half-Shelf\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:36:48\nI must confess to the ladies in the audience that my book has been branded by women's lib in New York as insulting to women, and I have great fights with all of them, I praise their bosoms, and they sort of calm down then, but they still keep putting up stickers on my book jackets. It's amazing what you can do to a women's lib chick if you just tell her that she has very nice tits, really. Immediately they desert the movement. \"New Blues for the Moon\" for D.D.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:37:34\nReads \"New Blues for the Moon\" [from In Time: 1962-1968].\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:38:10\nIt took me four years after, I got the rhyme line to \"I know your door better than my own\" but now it's too late to write the blues, but if anybody's interested, it's \"And if you won't have me I still ain't goin' home.\" \"A Love Poem\" for M.S.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:38:33\nReads \"A Love Poem\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:39:08\nOh yeah, that's a nice poem for today. \"Third of April\", for M.R.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:39:16\nReads \"Third of April\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:39:59\n\"A Five Act Play\" for B.J.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:40:02\nReads \"A Five Act Play\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:40:27\n\"Nature Boy\" for B.C. Helen, are you keeping notes on these initials?\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:40:41\nReads \"Nature Boy\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:41:22\n\"Flora\" for J.G.\n \nAnnotation\n00:41:31\nReads \"Flora\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:42:04\nI'm not sure I like this poem but the story behind it is funny. The really, the fairest break-up, for very strange reasons, and this one literally broke up because the first day that the chick made me sunny-side up eggs, she mashed the yolk with her fork. [Audience laughter]. I knew that no matter how beautiful the scene had been I couldn't stay there anymore. It's called \"Purple Flowers\" and it's for S.G., wherever you might be.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:42:54\nReads \"Purple Flowers\" [audience laughter throughout].\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:43:29\n\"The Apples\" for D.R.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:43:35\nReads \"The Apples\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:44:10\nI have--this is the last poem in the book and if you want to hear some stuff from--this is a longish one, why don't we call a stop after this, and if people want to split, split and if people want to stay I'll read a little bit more from the new book. \"When What You Dream\" for F.E.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:44:45\nReads \"When What You Dream\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:51:07\nThis book starts with a poem that was turned down by at least 37 little magazines, and I finally blackjacked it in as the introductory poem. It's called \"The Poem\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:51:36\nReads \"The Poem\" [from In Time: 1962-1968].\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:51:45\nNobody liked it. Dan Rice is the only person in the world I know that likes that poem. And I think it's the best poem I ever wrote. This is a poem for the other poet I have to most love for, Li Po [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7071], the Chinese poet from 700, 800, roughly. It's called \"shooting the moon\". Li Po, his particular distinctions were that he seduced the emperor of China's [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q148] favourite courtesan, and showed up two hours late for the date, bombed out of his skull, and fell asleep on her bosom before doing anything, and the emperor was not terribly amused by it but at the same time he was impressed by the enormity of the action so he exiled him to the mountains but he gave him like 50 thousand acres and bread for life, it's just he was not to show up in court ever again. While there, he did several notable things, one of which is writing the best lush poem that's ever been written cause he got up on a beautiful spring day and was sitting out on his terrace and his servant brought him breakfast and he ate it and he started drinking some sake and the next thing he knew it was nine o'clock at night and like he had sorta missed spring so he started drinking again, and the last line of the poem is something like \"two hours later I was dancing with the moon\". So, he worked it out. The only problem was, that he was literally in love with the moon, and this image runs through his poem, and one night on the way home from a wine tavern, he decided finally to make it with the moon and he sat down at the edge of the river, left it under a rock with his clothes and dove in to screw the moon, literally, the reflection in the water, and drowned. And one hopes that--I don't know what the autopsy showed, but one hopes that he did make it before he drowned, you know, like, you have to love, you know, a guy like that.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:54:28\nReads \"Shooting the Moon\" [from In Time: 1962-1968].\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:56:37\nHelen, do you remember, by any chance, where the other moon poem is? Hold on one--I think I have it. Marvelous picture in the Times [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9684] one day, the first time they took a--the first time one of the things went around the moon, and I wrote a very funny poem about it I think, if I can find it here. Oh well, while I'm looking for it, I'll read you \"Zeus, in May, Reflects on a Recent Letter from Astarte\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:57:53\nReads \"Zeus, in May, Reflects on a Recent Letter from Astarte\" [from In Time: 1962-1968].\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:58:37\nAm I allowed to read dirty poems here? Yeah? This is a poem called \"Poem in Praise of Perseverance\". And anybody who doesn't want to hear it should close their ears. This is another poem that was rejected by about 40 magazines.\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:59:05\nReads \"Poem in Praise of Perseverance\" [from In Time: 1962-1968].\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:59:34\nI really do want to find that damn moon poem. Alright, \"The New Standard Simplified American Cabala for Home Use\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n00:59:53\nReads \"The New Standard Simplified American Cabala for Home Use\" [from In Time: 1962-1968].\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n01:00:12\n\"The Three Old Ladies\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n01:00:24\nReads \"The Three Old Ladies\" [from In Time: 1962-1968].\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n01:01:14\nThat poem incidentally was because of a little incident in a college in Brooklyn [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18419] because they had a lady faculty member as a cop and she listened to me read and she objected to only one word in the entire reading and that was 'hard-on' and I suggested gently to the woman who called me about it that that might be that lady's problem, if she could listen to my--I found the moon poem, thank god--if that was the only word she found to object to that I really thought she might need a little help somewhere from somebody. \"Wrong Again\".\n \nJoel Oppenheimer\n01:02:11\nReads \"Wrong Again\" [from In Time: 1962-1968; audience laughter throughout].\n \nEND\n01:03:25\n[Cut off abruptly]."],"Note":["[{\"note\":\"Year-Specific Information:  \\n\\nIn Time: Poems 1962-1968 was published in 1969 while Joel Oppenheimer was writing columns for the Village Voice in New York City.\",\"type\":\"General\"},{\"note\":\"Local Connections:\\n\\nNo direct connections to Montreal or Sir George Williams University are known, however Oppenheimer was an influential member of the Black Mountain group, and a director of the Poetry Project at St. Mark’s Church in-the-Bowery in New York. George Bowering’s name appears on the list of correspondences between 1969 and 1978, in Joel Oppenheimer’s Papers. (See Related Works).\",\"type\":\"General\"},{\"note\":\"Original transcript, research, introduction and edits by Celyn Harding-Jones\\n\\nAdditional research and edits by Ali Barillaro\",\"type\":\"Cataloguer\"},{\"note\":\"Reel-to-reel tape>CD>digital file\",\"type\":\"Preservation\"}]"],"Related_works":["[{\"url\":\"https://www.worldcat.org/title/oxford-companion-to-twentieth-century-poetry-in-english/oclc/807465072&referer=brief_results\",\"citation\":\"Foster, Edward.\\\"Oppenheimer, Joel\\\". The Oxford Companion to Twentieth-Century Poetry in  English. Ian Hamilton (ed). Oxford University Press, 1996. \"},{\"url\":\"http://doddcentre.uconn.edu/           \\tfindaids/Oppenheimer/MSS19900056.html\",\"citation\":\"“Joel Oppenheimer Papers”. Archives & Special Collections at the Thomas J. Dodd Center, University of Connecticut, 2003.\"},{\"url\":\"https://www.worldcat.org/title/in-time-poems-1962-1968/oclc/48666?referer=di&ht=edition\",\"citation\":\"Oppenheimer, Joel. In Time: poems 1962-1968. Indianapolis: Bobbs-Merril, 1969.\"},{\"url\":\"https://www.worldcat.org/title/just-friendsfriends-and-lovers-poems-1959-1962/oclc/869017166&referer=brief_results\",\"citation\":\"Oppenheimer, Joel. Just Friends/Friends and Lovers. Asheville: Jargon Society, 1980.\"},{\"url\":\"\",\"citation\":\"“Oppenheimer, Joel”. Literature Online Biography. Proquest, 2008. \"},{\"url\":\"\",\"citation\":\"“Poetry Four: Sir George Williams Poetry Series, Ninth Reading, Al Purdy”. Montreal: Sir George Williams University, 1970. 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Joel Oppenheimer, thank you.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:00:44\\nI really didn't like, George [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1239280], being referred to as being a Black Mountain blah blah blah. I happen to be the finest softball pitcher Black Mountain ever had. And so that none of you lose any sleep tonight, the uniform is genuine United States [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30] Merchant Marine [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q865132] uniform and the fifth stripe, the purple stripe denotes me as a chief poet, which I was appointed by three captains, two chief engineers and several assorted mates of United States lines and we invented the uniform one night and they threw in all the materials and my wife gave it to me for a Christmas present, so I am responsible for the moral, religious, emotional and sexual life of the crew while at sea. It's a very serious duty! The book that's out now is actually my fourth book of poems, the first to some of you may be familiar with some of the poems from The New American Poetry [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7753501]and so on, The Dutiful Son and The Love Bit. And In Time is the fourth book. The third book is a little known book because Jonathan Williams [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6274797] has been carrying it around in his briefcase for eight years and sends me postcards every six month saying he's bringing it out. I thought maybe since it probably will never get published I should read some poems from there, it's called Friends and Lovers and most of the poems have initialed inscriptions, some of which I will name to you, and some of which somebody going for his Master's thirty years from now will have to do a lot of research to figure out. It's divided into two parts, obviously in the first part is friends and in the second part is lovers. This is the dedicatory poem. \\\"Orpheus\\\" [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q174353].\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:02:52\\nReads \\\"Orpheus\\\" [published later in Just Friends/Friends and Lovers].\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:03:20\\nThis is a poem called \\\"Lesson I\\\" and it's for Charles Olson [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q922978]. It's also as sure you all recognize upon a parody on one of Pound's [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q163366] Usury Cantos [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2701465] and it's based on an actual softball incident in which Charles was supposed to be coaching third base and instead was discussing Etruscan sculpture when I was rounding second on a long drive to left centre field.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:03:54\\nReads \\\"Lesson I\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:04:30\\nCharles got very upset about that. This is a poem for Franz Kline [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q374492]. Do I need to tell you who Franz was? Alright, if anybody doesn't know should ask the person next to them after the reading…”Pablo Nerruda--” It’s called “The Boys Whose Fathers\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:04:57\\nReads \\\"The Boys Whose Fathers\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:08:31\\nAnd this is for Cubby Selby [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q551487] who wrote Last Exit to Brooklyn [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1400274]. “A Poem In Tune With Its Time”.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:08:39\\nReads “A Poem In Tune With Its Time”.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:09:13\\nThis is for Phillip Guston [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q701952]. That's very strange, I find that now I can say the names. Philip is a still surviving member of the New York [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q60] Abstract Expressionist school, or whatever they call it these days. And a marvelous painter.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:09:30\\nReads \\\"A Grace for Painters\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:11:21\\nThis is another poem for Charles Olson. It's called \\\"Okay\\\". This is a funny book because it was written about 1961, as I say literally, it's been carried around in manuscript form for eight years and why I never pulled it back except that those damn postcards kept coming in so I kept saying, okay, six months more and it just was a scene I got into where I, personal poems to people became a thing that I was doing at that time. It's called \\\"Okay\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:12:10\\nReads \\\"Okay\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:13:54\\nThank you. I don't know how many of you knew Charles, that was a visit to New York and we did have a marvelous meal in New York's Chinatown [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q866332] and I just said to the guy, you know, bring us so many dollars worth of food, and there were eleven of us, Ed Dorn [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5334756] and his wife were with us and LeRoi Jones [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q354783] and his wife and Charles, and we sat there and they kept bringing dishes out everybody stuffed themselves and we were all sitting there and Charles, as most of you know was about 6'7” and about 250 pounds and after all this food had come out and been consumed, the guy came out with a sea bass about this big, and everybody sorta looked and Charles said, \\\"Oh, thank you Joel\\\" and proceeded to demolish this thing. Well, everybody just sitting...[audience laughter]. Ah, yes! I have a Canadian poem for you. I didn't even know that. This is a poem for Ed Dorn and it's called \\\"The Fourth Ark Royal\\\". One night at a bar called Dylan's, Ed and I had seen each other for the first time for about six years and a couple of sailors came in and they had Ark Royal on their caps and Canadian badges and finally after a couple of drinks I asked one of them what the Ark Royal was, and to their shame and my chagrin, and they really were abashed when they said it, it turns out now that the Ark Royal is now a Corvette, uh, after a long distinguished history and not that--I'm sure that it's a great Corvette, but still, a Corvette is a Corvette, you know.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:16:03\\nReads \\\"The Fourth Ark Royal\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:20:03\\nDoes anybody know where the Fourth Ark Royal is anchored? I'll go see it tomorrow. I have to make a confession, I pulled a dreadful gaff yesterday and I'm sure that Stan and George are going to spread it around after I leave, so I'm going to confess it in public. I said \\\"Gee, we're going to be here for a couple of days and there's one thing I'd really like to see. And do you suppose somebody might, you know, give us a lift to the Plains of Abraham [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2726825]\\\", and they both looked at me and said \\\"It's 100 miles away in Quebec [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q176]\\\" and I said \\\"Oh my god, you're right\\\" and then I got home, to the hotel, and I was reading through, what's the name of that lovely magazine they give you at the hotel? Canada Today or something, and I was reading through, and when I saw them today, I said \\\"Oh well, I was wrong about the Plains of Abraham, but we guys captured Montreal once\\\" and it made me feel much better. Of course, we didn't hold it very long, I think a day we were here. This is a thing called \\\"Spring Poem\\\". And let's hope that it gets here.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:21:24\\nReads \\\"Spring Poem\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:21:39\\nAhah! Yes, gee, I don't know if you're liking these, but I'm so delighted, I really haven't looked at these poems in moons, and it's...this is a poem for Gil Sorrentino [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q326773] called \\\"The Aces\\\", and it starts with a quote from Antony and Cleopatra [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q606830]. And it's when, it's the speech that's always quoted where the death is announced to her, and everybody always quotes the crown he bestride the continents like [unintelligible] and crowns--the crown would drop from his pocket, but I always love the end of it, near the end, she says \\\"His delights were dolphin-like, they showed his back above the element they lived in\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:22:28\\nReads \\\"The Aces\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:23:36\\nFor J.C. Just to add a little mystery.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:23:56\\nReads unnamed poem \\\"There are waterfalls pour straight down\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:24:48\\n\\\"La Revolución\\\", for J.S.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:24:51\\nReads \\\"La Revolución\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:25:55\\nI think what I'll do is read one--this is kind of a long poem, are you up to a longish poem and then we'll call a break? \\\"A Little Mayan Head\\\", for E.W.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:26:23\\nReads \\\"A Little Mayan Head\\\".\\n\\nUnknown\\n00:30:22\\n[Cut or edit made in tape. Unknown amount of time elapsed].\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:30:23\\nIt's titled \\\"N.B.\\\", but that isn't for a lady, that's Nota Bene, if I am correcting--if I am pronouncing that correctly, or correcting that pronouncedly.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:30:34\\nReads \\\"N.B.\\\"\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:31:10\\n\\\"Poem for New Children\\\", for E. and L.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:31:14\\nReads \\\"Poem for New Children\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:31:35\\n\\\"Peire Vidal at Thirty-Two\\\" and any of you who don't know Peire Vidal [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5269] are instructed to report to George Bowering on Monday morning and he will give you a lecture on Peire Vidal. And George, if you don't have a lecture prepared, you better by then. Peire Vidal was the most marvelous poet in the world, his vida begins, Peire Vidal was the son of a rich fourrier in Toulouse [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7880], he sang better than any man in the world and he wrote good songs and he was the biggest fool the world has ever known because he believed that what a woman told him in love was true. He also [audience laughter] wrote a poem, this will get an even bigger hit when he was an old man he wrote a gorgeous poem that I can't quote, and you can thank me for that, he wrote a gorgeous poem in which in the first stanza, he avowed his eternal love to four different chicks [audience laughter]. \\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:32:4\\nReads \\\"Peire Vidal at Thirty-Two\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:33:16\\n\\\"The Truck Farmer\\\", for R. F.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:33:25\\nReads \\\"The Truck Farmer\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:35:01\\n\\\"Dutch Interior: Sewing\\\", also for R.F. R.F. was my first wife.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:35:07\\nReads \\\"Dutch Interior: Sewing\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:35:36\\n\\\"Clams on the Half-Shelf\\\" for M.M. And I must say I've been very disappointed, because everybody kept telling me what great seafood restaurants Montreal has and the only seafood I can really stand is fresh clams and every restaurant I go into says, \\\"Oh, yeah, we have oysters but we don't serve clams\\\". Does anyone know a restaurant where I can get fresh clams?...This is for M.M.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:36:09\\nReads \\\"Clams on the Half-Shelf\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:36:48\\nI must confess to the ladies in the audience that my book has been branded by women's lib in New York as insulting to women, and I have great fights with all of them, I praise their bosoms, and they sort of calm down then, but they still keep putting up stickers on my book jackets. It's amazing what you can do to a women's lib chick if you just tell her that she has very nice tits, really. Immediately they desert the movement. \\\"New Blues for the Moon\\\" for D.D.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:37:34\\nReads \\\"New Blues for the Moon\\\" [from In Time: 1962-1968].\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:38:10\\nIt took me four years after, I got the rhyme line to \\\"I know your door better than my own\\\" but now it's too late to write the blues, but if anybody's interested, it's \\\"And if you won't have me I still ain't goin' home.\\\" \\\"A Love Poem\\\" for M.S.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:38:33\\nReads \\\"A Love Poem\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:39:08\\nOh yeah, that's a nice poem for today. \\\"Third of April\\\", for M.R.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:39:16\\nReads \\\"Third of April\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:39:59\\n\\\"A Five Act Play\\\" for B.J.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:40:02\\nReads \\\"A Five Act Play\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:40:27\\n\\\"Nature Boy\\\" for B.C. Helen, are you keeping notes on these initials?\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:40:41\\nReads \\\"Nature Boy\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:41:22\\n\\\"Flora\\\" for J.G.\\n \\nAnnotation\\n00:41:31\\nReads \\\"Flora\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:42:04\\nI'm not sure I like this poem but the story behind it is funny. The really, the fairest break-up, for very strange reasons, and this one literally broke up because the first day that the chick made me sunny-side up eggs, she mashed the yolk with her fork. [Audience laughter]. I knew that no matter how beautiful the scene had been I couldn't stay there anymore. It's called \\\"Purple Flowers\\\" and it's for S.G., wherever you might be.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:42:54\\nReads \\\"Purple Flowers\\\" [audience laughter throughout].\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:43:29\\n\\\"The Apples\\\" for D.R.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:43:35\\nReads \\\"The Apples\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:44:10\\nI have--this is the last poem in the book and if you want to hear some stuff from--this is a longish one, why don't we call a stop after this, and if people want to split, split and if people want to stay I'll read a little bit more from the new book. \\\"When What You Dream\\\" for F.E.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:44:45\\nReads \\\"When What You Dream\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:51:07\\nThis book starts with a poem that was turned down by at least 37 little magazines, and I finally blackjacked it in as the introductory poem. It's called \\\"The Poem\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:51:36\\nReads \\\"The Poem\\\" [from In Time: 1962-1968].\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:51:45\\nNobody liked it. Dan Rice is the only person in the world I know that likes that poem. And I think it's the best poem I ever wrote. This is a poem for the other poet I have to most love for, Li Po [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7071], the Chinese poet from 700, 800, roughly. It's called \\\"shooting the moon\\\". Li Po, his particular distinctions were that he seduced the emperor of China's [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q148] favourite courtesan, and showed up two hours late for the date, bombed out of his skull, and fell asleep on her bosom before doing anything, and the emperor was not terribly amused by it but at the same time he was impressed by the enormity of the action so he exiled him to the mountains but he gave him like 50 thousand acres and bread for life, it's just he was not to show up in court ever again. While there, he did several notable things, one of which is writing the best lush poem that's ever been written cause he got up on a beautiful spring day and was sitting out on his terrace and his servant brought him breakfast and he ate it and he started drinking some sake and the next thing he knew it was nine o'clock at night and like he had sorta missed spring so he started drinking again, and the last line of the poem is something like \\\"two hours later I was dancing with the moon\\\". So, he worked it out. The only problem was, that he was literally in love with the moon, and this image runs through his poem, and one night on the way home from a wine tavern, he decided finally to make it with the moon and he sat down at the edge of the river, left it under a rock with his clothes and dove in to screw the moon, literally, the reflection in the water, and drowned. And one hopes that--I don't know what the autopsy showed, but one hopes that he did make it before he drowned, you know, like, you have to love, you know, a guy like that.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:54:28\\nReads \\\"Shooting the Moon\\\" [from In Time: 1962-1968].\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:56:37\\nHelen, do you remember, by any chance, where the other moon poem is? Hold on one--I think I have it. Marvelous picture in the Times [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9684] one day, the first time they took a--the first time one of the things went around the moon, and I wrote a very funny poem about it I think, if I can find it here. Oh well, while I'm looking for it, I'll read you \\\"Zeus, in May, Reflects on a Recent Letter from Astarte\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:57:53\\nReads \\\"Zeus, in May, Reflects on a Recent Letter from Astarte\\\" [from In Time: 1962-1968].\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:58:37\\nAm I allowed to read dirty poems here? Yeah? This is a poem called \\\"Poem in Praise of Perseverance\\\". And anybody who doesn't want to hear it should close their ears. This is another poem that was rejected by about 40 magazines.\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:59:05\\nReads \\\"Poem in Praise of Perseverance\\\" [from In Time: 1962-1968].\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:59:34\\nI really do want to find that damn moon poem. Alright, \\\"The New Standard Simplified American Cabala for Home Use\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n00:59:53\\nReads \\\"The New Standard Simplified American Cabala for Home Use\\\" [from In Time: 1962-1968].\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n01:00:12\\n\\\"The Three Old Ladies\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n01:00:24\\nReads \\\"The Three Old Ladies\\\" [from In Time: 1962-1968].\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n01:01:14\\nThat poem incidentally was because of a little incident in a college in Brooklyn [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18419] because they had a lady faculty member as a cop and she listened to me read and she objected to only one word in the entire reading and that was 'hard-on' and I suggested gently to the woman who called me about it that that might be that lady's problem, if she could listen to my--I found the moon poem, thank god--if that was the only word she found to object to that I really thought she might need a little help somewhere from somebody. \\\"Wrong Again\\\".\\n \\nJoel Oppenheimer\\n01:02:11\\nReads \\\"Wrong Again\\\" [from In Time: 1962-1968; audience laughter throughout].\\n \\nEND\\n01:03:25\\n[Cut off abruptly].\",\"notes\":\"Joel Oppeheimer reads from In Time: Poems 1962-1968 (Bobbs-Merrill,1969) as well as poems from Just Friends/Friends and Lovers (Jargon Society) which was only published in 1980.\\n\\n00:00- Introduction for Joel Oppeheimer, by George Bowering [INDEX: Black Mountain,       director of the St. Mark’s Poetry Project, In Time published by Bobbs-Merrill distributed   by McCaulin Stewart.]\\n00:44- Joel Oppenheimer speaks, introduces “Orpheus” [INDEX: Black Mountain Softball pitcher, United States Merchant Marine uniform. The New American Poetry, The Dutiful Son, Love Bit, Johnathan Williams, Friends and Lovers, initialed inscriptions explained]\\n02:52- Reads “Orpheus” from Friends and Lovers\\n03:20- Introduces “Lesson I” [INDEX: Charles Olson, Ezra Pound’s Usury Cantos, Etruscan sculpture]\\n03:54- Reads “Lesson I”\\n04:30- Introduces “The Boys Whose Fathers” [INDEX: Franz Klein]\\n04:57- Reads “The Boys Whose Fathers”\\n08:31- Introduces “A Poem In Tune With Its Time” [INDEX: Cubby Selby’s Last Exit to               Brooklyn]\\n08:39- Reads “A Poem In Tune With Its Time”\\n09:13- Introduces “New York Abstract Expressionist School: For Philip Guston”, published as “A Grace for Painters” [INDEX: Philip Guston, New York Abstract Expressionist school]\\n09:30- Reads “A Grace for Painters”\\n11:21- Introduces “Okay” [INDEX: Charles Olson, written in 1961, personal poems for friends]\\n12:10- Reads “Okay”\\n13:54- Introduces “The Fourth Ark Royal” [Howard Fink List “The Fourthork Royal”]         [INDEX: Charles Olson, New York’s China Town. Ed Dorn, LeRoi Jones, Dylan’s Bar,              Forth ArK Royal sailors, Corvette]\\n16:03- Reads “The Fourth Ark Royal” [INDEX: Stan[ley Hoffman], George [Bowering],     Plains of Abraham, Quebec City, Canada Today magazine]\\n20:03- Introduces “Spring Poem”\\n21:24- Reads “Spring Poem”\\n21:39- Introduces “The Aces” [INDEX: Gil[bert] Sorrentino, Shakespeare’s “Anthony and     Cleopatra”]\\n22:28- Reads “The Aces”\\n23:36- Introduces poem for J.C, first line “There are waterfalls pour straight down...”\\n23:56- Reads first line “There are waterfalls pour straight down...”\\n24:48- Introduces “La Revolucion”\\n24:51- Reads “La Revolucion”\\n25:55- Introduces “A Little Mayan Head”\\n26:23- Reads “A Little Mayan Head”\\n30:23- Introduces “N.B.” [INDEX: “Nota Bene”]\\n30:34- Reads “N.B.”\\n31:10- Introduces “Poem for New Children” [INDEX: poem for children]\\n31:14- Reads “Poem for New Children”\\n31:35- Introduces “Peire Vidal at Thirty-Two” [Howard Fink List “Pervy Dahl at 32”]         [INDEX: George Bowering, Peire Vidal, Toulouse]\\n32:44- Reads “Peire Vidal at Thirty-Two”\\n33:16- Introduces “The Truck Farmer”\\n33:25- Reads “The Truck Farmer”\\n35:01- Introduces “Dutch Interior: Sewing” [INDEX: R.F. initial is his first wife]\\n35:07- Reads “Dutch Interior: Sewing”\\n35:36- Introduces “Clams on a Half-Shelf”\\n36:09- Reads “Clams on a Half-Shelf”\\n36:48- Introduces “New Blues for the Moon” [INDEX: Women’s Liberation Movement        branded as insulting to women]\\n37:34- Reads “New Blues for the Moon”\\n38:10- Introduces “A Love Poem”\\n38:33- Reads “A Love Poem”\\n39:08- Introduces “Third of April”\\n39:16- Reads “Third of April”\\n39:59- Introduces “A Five Act Play”\\n40:02- Reads “A Five Act Play”\\n40:27- Introduces “Nature Boy”\\n40:41- Reads “Nature Boy”\\n41:22- Introduces “Flora”\\n41:31- Reads “Flora”\\n42:04- Introduces “Purple Flowers”\\n42:54- Reads “Purple Flowers”\\n43:29- Introduces “The Apples”\\n43:35- Reads “The Apples”\\n44:10- Introduces “When What You Dream”\\n44:45- Reads “When What You Dream”\\n51:07- Introduces “the poem” from In Time Poems\\n51:36- Reads “the poem”\\n51:45- Introduces “shooting the moon” [INDEX: Dan Rice, Li Po seducing the moon, moon imagery]\\n54:28- Reads “shooting the moon”\\n56:37- Introduces “zeus, in may, reflects on a recent letter from astarte” [Howard Fink List: Xertes] [INDEX: Times magazine picture of the moon]\\n57:53- Reads “zeus in may, reflects on a recent letter from astarte”\\n58:37- Introduces “poem in praise of perseverance” [INDEX: “dirty” poems]\\n59:05- Reads “poem in praise of perseverance”\\n59:34- Introduces “the new standard simplified american cabala for home use”\\n59:53- Reads “the new standard simplified american cabala for home use”\\n1:00:12- Introduces “the three old ladies”\\n1:00:24- Reads “the three old ladies”\\n1:01:14- Introduces “wrong again” [INDEX: reading at a college in Brooklyn]\\n1:02:11- Reads “wrong again”\\n1:03:25- END OF RECORDING\\n \\nHoward Fink List:\\nIntroduction by George Bowering\\nRecorded April 3, 1970\\npage 77\",\"title\":\"\",\"credit\":\"\",\"caption\":\"\",\"content_type\":\"Sound Recording\",\"featured\":\"Yes\",\"public_access_url\":\"https://montreal.spokenweb.ca/sgw-poetry-readings/joel-oppenheimer-at-sgwu-1970/\"}]"],"score":1.8470539}]